The Dealy Sun

your proof for supporting the idea that the sun is 3000 miles away assumes that the world is flat, yet you've dismissed proof that the sun is really far away because it assumes that the world is round. That's a bit hypocritical.

No, it was not dismissed because it assumed a round earth. It was dismissed because it already assumed that the sun was very far away.

http://motivate.maths.org/conferences/conf46/c46_parallax.shtml

http://www.imcce.fr/vt2004/en/fiches/fiche_n05_08_eng.html

Now this is the proof which assumes that the earth is a globe. This is how astronomers have calculated through parallax that the sun is 93,000,000 miles away. By assuming a globe earth, we can account for its curvature through trigonometry and say that if the earth is a sphere the sun must be 93,000,000 miles away. It's pretty much the exact same method I used (two different observers at far off points), except with a few complicated steps which accounts for the curvature of the earth by using the latitude between observers.

The angle of the sun in the sky will mean different things depending on whether we are standing on a plane or a sphere.

Stalemate!

Also, here's proof that the earth is very far away from the sun, because the effects of solar flares take very long to arrive on earth

      http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarstorm_speed_040614.html

The units were W/km^2
It doesn't really matter though as a comparison in magnitude of power production. The energy received from the Sun and can be determined from the radiation received on the ground, radiation absorbed by the atmosphere and radiation reflected from the Earth.

Nonetheless, it's poor form to dismiss RE scientific explanation without providing an alternative. You may as well just say, "I don't believe it because I don't want to." You aren't disproving facts or statements, you just aren't accepting them.

Tom - can you show your calculations for determining the Sun to be where it is? You mention you have done them. Please post them.

Also, here's proof that the earth is very far away from the earth,

Epic.

Fixed

Quote from: Captain Skank on January 13, 2008, 04:58:57 PM

Can't be that difficult to study the sun if it's only 3000 miles away

On March 21-22 the sun is directly overhead at the equator and appears 45 degrees above the horizon at 45 degrees north and south latitude. As the angle of sun above the earth at the equator is 90 degrees while it is 45 degrees at 45 degrees north or south latitude, it follows that the angle at the sun between the vertical from the horizon and the line from the observers at 45 degrees north and south must also be 45 degrees. The result is two right angled triangles with legs of equal length. The distance between the equator and the points at 45 degrees north or south is approximately 3,000 miles. Ergo, the sun would be an equal distance above the equator.

Using observable data I've demonstrated that the sun is 3,000 miles away on the Flat Earth model.

Are you able to demonstrate for us that the sun is actually 93,000,000 miles away? I'd like to see something which calculates the sun to be 93,000,000 miles away.

If you REers cannot do that then what reason is there to believe that the sun is 93,000,000 miles away?

Tom,

The topic about amateur radio enthusiasts bouncing radio waves off the moon (echo of 2.5 seconds) is pretty inarguable evidence that the moon (and therefore the sun) is at least 250,000 away and not 3,000.  This method is independent of the the earth's shape.  You do not have a sensible answer for this, and instead stick to your method, which presumes the earth is already flat. 

"How do you know how light behaves in space":  I am merely making the same assumption as you and Dr. Samuel Rowbotham:  That space does not have a significant effect on light.

Bumped for Tom