hurricanes and other weather patterns

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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2007, 06:22:59 PM »
Heres a crazy idea.


Since we know space is non-euclidean and there are theories that the universe eventually "loops" back upon itself why not on a smaller scale?  The universe could "loop" at the south pole.  Meaning when you pass a certain point in the south pole region, you end up on the opposite side of the rim.  This would explain the difficulty and misunderstandings with mapping and travelling through antarctica.  This also would mean that the moon would be travelling in the opposite direction relative to the southern hemisphere, which could explain foucalt pendulum and the reverse rotation of large weather bodies. 

This could also maybe explain the boat-mast effect and the horizon, given space was curved in a reasonable way.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2007, 07:59:27 PM »
that sounds like maps in some video games: move off any edge and you wind up at the opposite edge; E,W,N or S!

someone once said it would take a donut-shaped world, flattened out, for THAT to work!

anyway, you're talking magic or wormholes; totally weird...

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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2007, 08:01:39 PM »
i'm still waiting for an FE explanation of why hurricanes south of the equator spin the opposite direction.

and just 2 words is NOT an explanation, it's a cop-out!
still waiting...

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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2007, 10:59:13 PM »
that sounds like maps in some video games: move off any edge and you wind up at the opposite edge; E,W,N or S!

someone once said it would take a donut-shaped world, flattened out, for THAT to work!

anyway, you're talking magic or wormholes; totally weird...
I am not talking about magic or wormholes.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2007, 11:32:38 PM »
oh, i am "proporting" that FErs actually believe what they post here. am i wrong? i suppose it's possible some of you are just arguing the FE side for fun...

that reminds me of something i heard a long time ago: a system of "logic" that can supposedly "prove" ANYTHING, no matter how bizarre. but it starts with "X does NOT equal X" and continues from that obvious contradiction...

Already explained. Use the search function to find all posts containing the phrase "Coriolis Effect" authored by Tom Bishop.

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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2007, 12:27:42 AM »
THAT! if Coriolus doesn't exist, what DOES explain this FACT?

Relative to the rotating observer, the Coriolis effect arises. In other words, the fictitious effect arises in a non-inertial frame of reference.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=18178.0

the RE explanation: the coriolus effect (not force, i never said that) explains it VERY simply.

Uh, the Coriolis effect is caused by a fictitious force.

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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2007, 02:13:31 AM »
oh, i am "proporting" that FErs actually believe what they post here. am i wrong? i suppose it's possible some of you are just arguing the FE side for fun...

that reminds me of something i heard a long time ago: a system of "logic" that can supposedly "prove" ANYTHING, no matter how bizarre. but it starts with "X does NOT equal X" and continues from that obvious contradiction...

Already explained. Use the search function to find all posts containing the phrase "Coriolis Effect" authored by Tom Bishop.

Here:

The earth does not rotate. All spinning phenomenas (Coriolis effect, Focault Pendulum, gyroscope) are caused by the gravitation of the close multiple system above our heads, 4000 miles above the surface of the earth. Bodies will be captured geometrically and propelled in the direction and apogee of the close stars overhead, which make one rotation around the hub per twenty four hours.

The South Celestial systems over the Southern Hemisphere are spinning in the opposite direction and so bodies in the south will be deflected in the opposite direction.

Tom,

I think the nearest thing you are talking about is frame-dragging, which only really applies to gravitational field strengths around spinning black holes and neutron stars.
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« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2007, 08:23:34 AM »
ever heard of a geo-synchronus orbit? it's an unusual phenomenon where a satellite would appear to hover in one place above the earth.

in the RE model, this is only possible if the orbit is parallell with the equator: any other course would appear to zig-zag north and south of the equator.

in Tom's model, you could shoot a rocket straight up from ANY place on earth, and if it was high enough to be affected by his stars, it would hover in place!

the FACT that this does NOT happen PROVES he is WRONG!

of course Tom also claims that eveyone at NASA is lying, so let me add another point:

the planets; mars,jupiter, etc. MOVE relative to the stars, in a fashion that appears to periodically REVERSE!

in RE, this is explained by the RELATIVE movement of the earth around the sun (the earth moves faster).
the FE answer? no idea!

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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2007, 08:37:15 AM »
still waiting for an FE answer...

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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2007, 10:09:55 AM »
in Tom's model, you could shoot a rocket straight up from ANY place on earth, and if it was high enough to be affected by his stars, it would hover in place!

Where did Tom say this?
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2007, 06:12:57 AM »
his argument does not count, he is using capitals.
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2007, 08:11:31 AM »
i will start with this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane

notice it says hurricanes north of the equator rotate counterclockwise and hurricanes south of the equator rotate clockwise.
why?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolus_Effect

now my point: this would NOT be the case on the flat earth. in fact, most flat earthers think earth does not spin at all, in which case...there would BE no hurricanes AT ALL!
i'm sure the people of New Orleans would consider this interesting...

Please don't count on the wiki for everything. It's not always written by the experts nor always up to date. *Most* hurricanes and large storms do rotate in certain patterns either north or south of the equator, but not always. This is a farce. Tornadoes, various weather and earth events will all rotate in either direction in either hemisphere. I don't know how many times you have to make this argument incorrectly, and have it pointed out to you for you to stop making it.

You'll also notice that the Coriolus effect although present as an effect created by a rotational frame of reference - Usually shown by something along the lines of a focault pendulum or I believe there might be a couple of other experiments - A gyroscope is a pretty good example ( Won't work otherwise )... it is NOT indicative of STORMS or TOILET / drain functions. (caps intended)

I have to get to class, but I'd be happy to give you some references later if you are unable to use google...

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Optimus

P.S. Sorry... some things are just agitating. Didn't mean to be rigid sounding, but man... this is like the third or 4th time or something. Sanka man... Sanka.

And by the way... as long as you have a magnetic field and some thermals (you know, warm earth, warm oceans, cold polar regions, cold oceans, mix them together and such) ... which create... WIND... you can have big nasty storms.


 
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