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Artificial selection is not symbiosis.  The two may at times be in play for a given example--e.g. dogs and man, but one goddamned dog does not mean the terms are suddenly synonyms.

Lets consult literature and see if you are correct. The definitions for symbiosis are as follows:

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1. The close association of two different organisms, in which one or both benefit from the relationship.
www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/canwaters-eauxcan/bbb-lgb/library-bibliotheque/glossary-glossaire/index_e.asp

2. a relationship between two organisms defined as 'living together. It is not always a beneficial relationship and may be 'parasitism' where one organism feeds off of the other in a harmful way, or may be 'mutualism' where both organisms benefit.
www.hamiltonnature.org/habitats/glossary.htm

3. Symbiosis is a situation in which two dissimilar organisms live together. There are many types of symbiosis, including mutualism (in which both organisms benefit), commensalism (in which one organism benefits and the other is not affected), or parasitism (in which one organism benefits at the ...
www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/glossary/indexs8.shtml

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Well gee, those sounds like elements involved in Artificial Selection to me. Again, my arguments has been defeated.

I must stop posting.

Quote from: Tom Bishop on October 10, 2007, 08:51:08 AM

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Artificial selection is not symbiosis.  The two may at times be in play for a given example--e.g. dogs and man, but one goddamned dog does not mean the terms are suddenly synonyms.

Lets consult literature and see if you are correct. The definitions for symbiosis are as follows:

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1. The close association of two different organisms, in which one or both benefit from the relationship.
www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/canwaters-eauxcan/bbb-lgb/library-bibliotheque/glossary-glossaire/index_e.asp

2. a relationship between two organisms defined as 'living together. It is not always a beneficial relationship and may be 'parasitism' where one organism feeds off of the other in a harmful way, or may be 'mutualism' where both organisms benefit.
www.hamiltonnature.org/habitats/glossary.htm

3. Symbiosis is a situation in which two dissimilar organisms live together. There are many types of symbiosis, including mutualism (in which both organisms benefit), commensalism (in which one organism benefits and the other is not affected), or parasitism (in which one organism benefits at the ...
www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/glossary/indexs8.shtml

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Well gee, those sounds like elements involved in Artificial Selection to me. Again, my arguments has been defeated.

I must stop posting.

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Quote from: flat_earth on October 10, 2007, 12:55:09 PM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on October 10, 2007, 08:51:08 AM

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Artificial selection is not symbiosis.  The two may at times be in play for a given example--e.g. dogs and man, but one goddamned dog does not mean the terms are suddenly synonyms.

Lets consult literature and see if you are correct. The definitions for symbiosis are as follows:

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1. The close association of two different organisms, in which one or both benefit from the relationship.
www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/canwaters-eauxcan/bbb-lgb/library-bibliotheque/glossary-glossaire/index_e.asp

2. a relationship between two organisms defined as 'living together. It is not always a beneficial relationship and may be 'parasitism' where one organism feeds off of the other in a harmful way, or may be 'mutualism' where both organisms benefit.
www.hamiltonnature.org/habitats/glossary.htm

3. Symbiosis is a situation in which two dissimilar organisms live together. There are many types of symbiosis, including mutualism (in which both organisms benefit), commensalism (in which one organism benefits and the other is not affected), or parasitism (in which one organism benefits at the ...
www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/glossary/indexs8.shtml

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Well gee, those sounds like elements involved in Artificial Selection to me. Again, my arguments has been defeated.

I must stop posting.

Fixed

For the love of all that is holy, thank you.