Answers needed for a conversion

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Mr. Ireland

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Re: Answers needed for a conversion
« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2007, 12:46:34 PM »
No, I know what elevation we were at.  I could see out of the rocket, so, I'm pretty sure we were not floating around. 

What in God's name are you even speaking about now? You stood in a rocket? What the fuck were you doing there, and how is this verifiable, relevant, or even sane?

Dear lord this place is a gas sometimes...
Have you ever seen these: ?

Am I the only one that laughed?

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TheEngineer

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Re: Answers needed for a conversion
« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2007, 03:10:48 PM »
This has got to be the stupidest argument this site has ever seen.


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Re: Answers needed for a conversion
« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2007, 03:15:14 PM »
This has got to be the stupidest argument this site has ever seen.
Why I amazed to see you admit your stupidity, even it your post was really stupid!

Really? What elevation were you? When you looked out of the rocket could you see its supports? How did you determine that the supports were bearing all the weight of the rocket and contents?
1) Yes
2) 6,700'
3) Yes
4) It was very heavy.

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Mr. Ireland

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Re: Answers needed for a conversion
« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2007, 03:15:47 PM »
This has got to be the stupidest argument this site has ever seen.

But the rocket was funny, eh?

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Re: Answers needed for a conversion
« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2007, 03:27:05 PM »
Why I amazed to see you admit your stupidity, even it your post was really stupid!
Grammar, please.





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Re: Answers needed for a conversion
« Reply #65 on: August 29, 2007, 03:27:24 PM »
This has got to be the stupidest argument this site has ever seen.

But the rocket was funny, eh?
Yes.


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Midnight

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Re: Answers needed for a conversion
« Reply #66 on: August 29, 2007, 06:21:57 PM »
No, I know what elevation we were at.  I could see out of the rocket, so, I'm pretty sure we were not floating around. 

What in God's name are you even speaking about now? You stood in a rocket? What the fuck were you doing there, and how is this verifiable, relevant, or even sane?

Dear lord this place is a gas sometimes...
Have you ever seen these: ?

Am I the only one that laughed?

I laughed, heartily. I merely added gravity (no pun intended) to my former observation of what a charlatan is.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Max Fagin

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Re: Answers needed for a conversion
« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2007, 06:34:21 PM »
Whoa, I missed this entirely.  I just recognized the quote that Tom Bishop gave from Copernicus.

Tom gave this quote from Copernicus as evidence that Copernicus admitted that his system was merely an assumption and incapable of demonstration:

Quote from: Tom Bishop via Zetetic Astronomylink=topic=16539.msg277493#msg277493 date=1188347328
"It is not necessary that hypotheses should be true, or even probable; it is sufficient that they lead to results of calculation which agree with calculation. Neither let anyone, so far as hypotheses are concerned, expect anything certain from astronomy, since that science can afford nothing of the kind, lest, in case he should adopt for truth, things feigned for another purpose, he should leave this science more foolish than he came. The hypothesis of the terrestrial motion was nothing but an hypothesis, valuable only so far as it explained phenomena, and not considered with reference to absolute truth or falsehood."

The problem is that Copernicus never said this.  I recognize this quote from Copernicus' book "De revolutionibus orbium coelestium."

This quote was added after the book was finished by the Lutheran Minister Andreas Osiander, to whom the publication had been entrusted.  Oceander was what we call scientific instrumentalist, and felt that science was incapable of uncovering true causes.

But if you read the rest of the book, it is clear that Copernicus was what we called a scientific realist, and believed the exact opposite of what the quote claims.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2007, 06:39:41 PM by Max Fagin »
"The earth looks flat; therefore it is flat."
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Midnight

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Re: Answers needed for a conversion
« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2007, 06:37:22 PM »
Whoa, I missed this entirely.  I just recognized the quote that Tom Bishop gave from Copernicus, and Tom is misquoting him violently.

Tom gave this quote from Copernicus as evidence that the astronomer's observations were incapable of demonstration:

Quote from: Tom Bishop via Zetetic Astronomylink=topic=16539.msg277493#msg277493 date=1188347328
"It is not necessary that hypotheses should be true, or even probable; it is sufficient that they lead to results of calculation which agree with calculation. Neither let anyone, so far as hypotheses are concerned, expect anything certain from astronomy, since that science can afford nothing of the kind, lest, in case he should adopt for truth, things feigned for another purpose, he should leave this science more foolish than he came. The hypothesis of the terrestrial motion was nothing but an hypothesis, valuable only so far as it explained phenomena, and not considered with reference to absolute truth or falsehood."

What Tom doesn't realize is that Copernicus never said this.  I recognize this quote from Copernicus' book "De Revelusionivus" (Probably Misspelled.)

This quote was added after the book was finished by the Lutheran Minister Andreas Oceander, to whom the publication had been entrusted.  Oceander was what we call scientific instrumentalist, and felt that science was incapable of uncovering true causes.

But if you read the rest of the book, it is clear that Copernicus was what we called a scientific realist, and believed the exact opposite of what the quote claims.

Newsflash:

The vast majority of Tom's posts originate from Random verbosity generators off the web. Someone posted a thread about this a while back, but it is easy to ascertain his bookmarked choices. The man is not educated, not certified in a Science, and has no purpose but to spin insanity and chaos. He simply generates a response based on keywords from a post he chooses to respond to. This means nothing he says is reality, and therefore your well intentioned post only brings it closer to consensus for everyone on the site.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Roundy the Truthinessist

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Re: Answers needed for a conversion
« Reply #69 on: August 29, 2007, 07:56:39 PM »
Tom Bishop is a figment of someone's imagination.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?