Are the stars within the Firmament?

Hi
I know the Sun and Moon are this side of the Firmament but what about the stars? Some of the amateur footage I've seen suggests they might be within it.

Anyway, just thought I'd ask on the forum in case someone has any ideas.

Yes all objects of the heavens above us are beneath the Firmament which is blue of the waters it holds within its walls.

Stars now are seen very close up, showing features and details and movements of them, and each star is unique, proving no external causes of what we see of stars today.

Stars will be seen ever more close up in future, they’ll continue to amaze us in their beauty, their details and colors and movements. I find the future very very exciting in this regard alone.  All will be known one day, it’s inevitable. Each of us will have to choose the right path, use one’s own reasoning and logic and deductive abilities, because by that time they’ll be lying their asses off to us in pure desperation. Like the weasels they all are, they will show how much they are weasels, and will be crushed into dust as they so well deserve to be, either literally or figuratively. A glorious day that will be, I only wish I would still be here to witness it unfold!

I enjoyed reading that.

Do you think any of the stars are actually in the waters of the Firmament?

Great question.

A lot is yet unknown about stars, such as where exactly they are relative to the Firmament.

Some stars may be directly on the bottom of the Firmament walls, or some could even be within the walls, who knows?

I've seen one video where stars seem to be moving as if in water but as you say - who knows?

I mean, for the longest time stars were used for navegation, so wouldn't it make sense that in an FE model, the stars are also light/reflection of the sun's light within that dome?

I actually have a pretty solid theory about the stars!

If the dome has imperfections, and is not entirely smooth, then they could just be light reflections from the sun!

The light would bounce off of the dome's curved surface and create the dots in the sky. Because the angels of the light change with the seasons, so do the constellations!

I am working on creating a model to prove this. Its bizarre that they tell us that all these stars are all massively different sizes, and different distances away yet they are all same size in our sky besides the Sun??? Its absurd to to think we are moving a cray speeds, over crazy distances, but everything appears the same.