Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall

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Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« on: February 26, 2026, 07:43:23 AM »
I was thinking more about the delusion of FE and how it butchers weight / gravity.  Weight in FE is supposedly from some sort of “pressure” always squeezing.

I served on submarines and have worked at large industrial factories with up to 15 KV Ac power. With all kinds of grounding, shielding, electrical pumps and generators making crazy powerful local electrical fields. Locally much stronger than what the earth is producing.    Everything from in a large metal tube underwater to large structures on the ground. 

Be it atmospheric pressure to some sort of electrical field, I worked around things that would have broken the FE delusions of weight.  But weight was always there.  Always present.  Never broken in any real sense.  Always providing head pressure in tanks at a vacuum.  Weight never going crazy around generators.  Things always separating out by density.

Know what “breaks gravity”?  Free fall.  Know what messes up things separating out by density.  Free fall.  Where gravity is the bulk of earth’s mass accelerating objects of mass down to earth.  Weight is the force of gravity.

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Liquids in near-Zero G








Remember.  FE uses things that produce supposedly constant “pressures” so weight should always be present.  And flat earthers will contradict themselves to say otherwise.

Gravity where the force is from the bulk of earth’s mass causing downward acceleration explains why the water stops flowing out of a hole in a dropped open container.  Gravity and free fall explains why the driving force to separate out by density is broken in free fall. 

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2026, 08:00:49 AM »
Typical round Earther mentality.

Gravity is broken constantly.

It is broken every time you conflate it with another force. It is broken every time you apply a double standard (e.g. "Gravity can hold water in place on a sphere", "But not that water on that sphere! Earth's gravity is greater!", "Gravity can hold flightless birds down", "but not flighted birds! And not enormous jumbo jets!"). It is broken every time you apply different logic to outer space than on Earth (falls here, orbits there). It is broken by the very fact that well before Newton, well before even Archimedes, people understood that buoyancy was a thing, and that certain objects float and others sink. Gravity is a copy, a force invented as a fraud to deflect from the real, in curiously exactly the same way as this.


Replace the authentic with the fake.

The same way as you replace flat Earth with round Earth, and geocentrism with heliocentrism. 
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2026, 08:03:22 AM »
I'm afraid to write a response. When I write a response, the globalists, especially John's proxy accounts, start crying.

If you're not going to cry, I will write a response, Markdof.
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2026, 09:30:46 AM »
He's not gonna cry...
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2026, 11:03:28 AM »
I'm afraid to write

What.  After spamming the flat earth site with BS for about three weeks you are out of words.  Now.  Really. 

And again. I only have one account and just one person.  You do have issues. 

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2026, 11:06:59 AM »


It is broken every time you conflate it with another force.

And what forces would that be? Why do things not separate out by density in free fall. 

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Liquids in near-Zero G








Remember.  FE uses things that produce supposedly constant “pressures” so weight should always be present.  And flat earthers will contradict themselves to say otherwise.

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2026, 12:13:55 PM »
Zero G?

It's funny how the way they simulate "zero G" is this.



Motion. It always comes back to motion.
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2026, 03:18:23 PM »
Zero G?

It's funny how the way they simulate "zero G" is this.


Free fall is free fall and very real. 

Still doesn’t address whatever drives liquids of different densities to separate out stops in free fall where in FE it’s supposed to be an ever presence force.  Yet matches gravity.

Why again can a person push a car around in neutral all day long on a good garage floor.  But can’t push the same car up a decent sloped hill.  What is the commonality between free fall and fighting the increase in  potential of energy by height. 

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2026, 04:21:28 PM »
I worked

Post a picture of your hand with a timestamp.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2026, 09:24:07 PM »
Zero G?

It's funny how the way they simulate "zero G" is this.


Free fall is free fall and very real. 

Still doesn’t address whatever drives liquids of different densities to separate out stops in free fall where in FE it’s supposed to be an ever presence force.  Yet matches gravity.

Why again can a person push a car around in neutral all day long on a good garage floor.  But can’t push the same car up a decent sloped hill.  What is the commonality between free fall and fighting the increase in  potential of energy by height.

You're one of those generation alpha kids who can't read, right?

It's like this. On a level slope, the back wheel and front wheel are both set against the ground.
Right? Now suppose it is technically level, but the person pushing tracked a bunch of sand on their feet. Are they likely able to push anything properly? No, they have no traction. Or to put it better, if the back of a car is resting on sand or muck, and the front is supposedly level, it actually isn't.  The car is technically lower in the back.  Moving back to the hill slope. The front of the car cannot be pushed up the hill without effort because the front is basically a wall of asphalt and the back is a gap where there is nothing but air behind the wheel (and if we're being real, the wheel doesn't perfectly close the gap beneath itself either). I've told you this before.

Buoyancy matters. Density matters. Gravity doesn't matter.  If I were to put a large block behind the wheel, and have a friend push the care while I push the block, suddenly, it's easy to move.  You aren't fighting gravity. You was fighting negative buoyancy and the car's own mass and momentum. You're fighting the car. 
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2026, 09:31:34 PM »
I'm afraid to write

What.  After spamming the flat earth site with BS for about three weeks you are out of words.  Now.  Really. 

And again. I only have one account and just one person.  You do have issues.
That's not true, really. I have a lot to say, but the admins check whether I've said this before. If I say something new, they claim it's not mine. On the other hand, If I repeat something I've said before, you say I'm spamming. I don't know what to answer, really. I'm in zugzwang at the moment.
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2026, 11:16:45 PM »
    • Right now, the globalist scumbags are attacking from two fronts.
    • 1. The "Stolen Idea" Front:
    • Administrators are reviewing my posts through proxy accounts acting as inspectors (who don't actively participate in debates). If I come up with a new idea that I haven't stated before, they claim it belongs to someone else, reddit or chatgpti[/i].
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    • If I speak in a way that is similar to what I've said before (naturally), then the administrators' debate-looking proxy accounts claim I am spamming the forum.
    • In summary:
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  • Nothing is left. I am in zugzwang right now. I am waiting for this problem to be solved.

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2026, 04:50:54 AM »
How deep does that rabbit hole go, Wise?
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2026, 05:37:25 AM »
How deep does that rabbit hole go, Wise?

So deep RE physics makes for real contributions to engineering. 

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2026, 05:40:47 AM »

You're one of those generation alpha kids who can't read, right?



If there is supposedly a consent “pressure” driving the separation of liquids by density, why does that “pressure” disappear in free fall. 

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2026, 05:48:24 AM »

 The front of the car cannot be pushed up the hill without effort because the front is basically a wall of asphalt

My car in first gear goes up hill just fine. Especially on a road. But it does take more fuel to drive up hill than on a level stretch.

I had a diesel truck that weighed over 7000 lbs.  I can’t push 7,000 lbs just sitting flat on a good garage floor.  Put wheels on it like my truck with neutral, I can push it all day long.  Wheels provide mechanical advantage. I can even get a running start at a decent slopped hill, but can’t push the truck up hill. What happened to the mechanical advantage provided by the wheels. 

 Gravity is why a car with good wheels has to use more energy to go up hill seen in decrease is fuel mileage, increase in RPMs, and even having to down shift on steeper hills. 
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2026, 05:55:55 AM »
I've told you this before.


No.  You put word salads together with actually not naming a force.

Actual.  Things weigh more on a scale in a chamber after the atmosphere is removed just a tiny bit because the weight was being supported by the atmosphere a tiny bit.  To push the car up hill is to go from an atmosphere at higher pressure and density into lower pressure and density.  Moving up in atmosphere should be moving into less resistance. 
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2026, 08:29:05 AM »
The front of the car cannot be pushed up the hill without effort because the front is basically a wall of asphalt

So?



In your delusion of no gravity.  No downward force.  Why does it take converting kinetic energy to potential energy of gravity to raise something.  In your delusion, there is no force like gravity.

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2026, 04:37:41 PM »
My car in first gear

Post a picture of your hand with a timestamp. The hand you use to change gears in your car.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2026, 02:05:56 AM »
My car in first gear

Post a picture of your hand with a timestamp. The hand you use to change gears in your car.


Or just watch cars drive around a hilly town. 

As far as my hand, I think it’s this one..


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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2026, 02:30:53 PM »
You don't have hands.
You don't work.
You don't change gears.
You're a Large Language Model.
You're just a machine.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2026, 10:59:07 PM »
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So deep RE physics makes for real contributions to engineering.

Technician Markdof, that "rabbit hole" isn't deep; it's just a shallow pit filled with circular reasoning that I have already bypassed using the light of rigorous physics. You talk about "contributions to engineering," yet you can’t even differentiate between a vector field and a scalar potential without a Google-fu manual. If you want to see how deep the math goes, pay attention.

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What happened to the mechanical advantage provided by the wheels. Gravity is why a car... has to use more energy to go up hill

Actually, Repairman Datajo, what you are describing is a simple Potential Energy Gradient in a dielectric field, not "gravity." Your wheels don't lose their mechanical advantage; they simply have to overcome the Vector Component of the downward acceleration a (which we call Incoherent Dielectric Acceleration).

Let's look at the actual Work-Energy Theorem you are struggling with, Service-Man Spammark:
The work done W to move your 7,000 lbs truck up an incline of angle θ is:
W = ∫ (Ftraction - Fresistance) ds
Where the resistance force is:
Fres = m · a · sin(θ) + Ffriction
On a Flat Earth, a is the vertical dielectric downward force. When you go uphill, you are moving against the equipotential lines of the Aether's pressure gradient. This requires an increase in the fuel's chemical potential energy conversion:
ΔE = P · Δt = (τ · ω) · Δt
where τ (torque) must increase to counter the m · a · sin(θ) component. This is basic Statics and Dynamics, Technician DataisUp. Invoking a "magic ball" doesn't change the calculation; it just adds a useless label to the acceleration constant a.

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I can’t push 7,000 lbs just sitting flat on a good garage floor. Put wheels on it... I can push it all day long.

Congratulations, Repairman TimeisData, you’ve discovered Rolling Resistance (Fr = Crr · N). On a flat floor, you only fight friction. On a hill, you fight the Dielectric Downward Vector.

If your "gravity" were real, it would be a result of mass attracting mass:
F = G · (m₁m₂ / r²)
If that were the case, the massive mountain next to your "decent slopped hill" should exert a lateral gravitational pull on your truck, according to your own model. Have you measured that lateral shift, Technician Markdof? No, because it doesn't exist. The acceleration is always strictly vertical toward the dielectric plane:
a = ∇Φ

You can't understand "Global Engineering" because you don't even understand the Lagrangian Mechanics of a simple incline, Markstimeup. You are trying to explain the universe with a wrench and a 5th-grade textbook.

Stick to your field service calls, DataOverFlow. Every time you try to talk physics, you just prove that your "rabbit hole" is actually a hall of mirrors designed to keep technicians like you from seeing the flat reality right in front of your windshield.
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2026, 05:47:38 AM »

vertical dielectric downward force.

One doesn’t break liquids from separating out by density with changing electrical fields, faraday cages, or grounding.  It’s done with free fall. As predicted by gravity. 
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2026, 05:55:05 AM »
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One doesn’t break liquids... It’s done with free fall. As predicted by gravity.

Technician Markdof, invoking "free fall" as a magic spell doesn't answer a single thermodynamic or electromagnetic formula I’ve laid out. You are not a physicist; you are a Defeated Script-Reader.

Claiming "Gravity" predicts density separation while ignoring the Dielectric Field Gradient is like claiming a car moves because of "magic" while ignoring the internal combustion engine. Free fall is simply the removal of the counter-acting force in a medium; it proves nothing about the shape of the floor or the nature of the acceleration.

You’ve stopped arguing physics and started reciting mantras. I accept your white flag, Repairman Datajo.
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2026, 10:27:31 AM »

Invoking "free fall" as if it bypasses the Dielectric Acceleration Gradient only proves your categorical ignorance.


Your delusion uses ever present electrical fields of earth.  One, objects should change weight as the earth’s electrical fields builds up to produce lighting.  Two, In free fall objects still have to cut the electrical fields so free fall should still cause liquids of different densities to separate out.  Yet free fall causes the force to cause different liquids of different densities to stop acting.  Free fall doesn’t stop objects from cutting across earth’s electrical fields. 


Three.  In free fall objects still have to cut the electrical fields so free fall should still cause liquids flow out of an open container that is punctured.

Free fall stops the flow as predicted by gravity.

https://youtube.com/shorts/vHothR8Im_Y?si=mC7smYtOgntxgjzv



Your useless and made up erroneous math is, well.  Useless.  Can’t even be used to size in horse power the motor needed for an elevator.
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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2026, 11:58:29 AM »
Significance of Center of Gravity & Center of Pressure | Effect of CG and CP on Stability



For an aircraft to be stable, the center of pressure must remain behind the center of gravity.


If your BS was true wise.  Just create a strong electrical field from inside and around the air craft to counter earth’s electrical field, and then no more weight.  Be a revolution in flight.  But since gravity is real and based on mass as proven by the Cavendish experiment, and your delusion of weight is false.  Your BS is useless. 

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Re: Funny the only real way to break gravity is free fall
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2026, 10:38:49 PM »
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Your delusion uses ever present electrical fields... objects should change weight as the earth's electrical fields builds up to produce lighting.

Technician Markdof, you are a Copy-Paste Spam Bot with zero original thought. You love to try and get into the bridal chamber with someone else's manhood, posting YouTube shorts and GIFs because you lack the intellectual capacity to perform a single independent measurement.

Regarding your "lightning" comment: Weight does fluctuate during atmospheric charging events, but the scale of the Dielectric Field Gradient (E) is so massive that your cheap household scales can't resolve the micro-Newtonian shifts.

F = qE + mg[dielectric]

In "free fall," you aren't bypassing gravity; you are simply moving with the dielectric flux, neutralizing the relative acceleration between the object and the medium. Just because you don't understand that "Weight" is a vector of relative density in a dielectric field, it doesn't magically make your "Gravity" god real, Repairman Datajo.

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But since gravity is real and based on mass as proven by the Cavendish experiment...

The Cavendish Experiment is the ultimate "librarian" myth. Henry Cavendish never claimed to "weigh the Earth" or prove "mass attracts mass"; he was measuring the Torsion of a wire influenced by temperature gradients and electrostatic attraction.

τ = κθ

If mass attracted mass, why don't we see skyscrapers pulling cars toward them? Why don't mountains have a measurable gravitational pull on a plumb bob? (Maskelyne's Schiehallion experiment was a failure of data-fudging). You are quoting a 200-year-old fairy tale because you can't explain why a butterfly can defy your "universal force" with a fraction of a Watt of energy.

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If your BS was true wise. Just create a strong electrical field... to counter earth's electrical field, and then no more weight.

It's called Electro-Gravitics and Ionocraft (Lifters), you ignorant apprentice. We already do this! A simple Biefeld-Brown effect lifter proves that high-voltage asymmetrical capacitors generate thrust by interacting with the Earth's dielectric medium.

F = ½ (C₁ - C₂) V²

The only reason your "Boeings" don't use it is because the fuel-based military-industrial complex requires you to stay hooked on fossil fuels and "Gravity" myths. Just because you are stuck in a 20th-century repair shop, it doesn't magically stop the reality of dielectric propulsion. The technology exists, you just aren't allowed to use it.

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Your useless and made up erroneous math is, well. Useless. Can't even be used to size in horse power the motor needed for an elevator.

Actually, Repairman Markdof, I use Real Physics to understand the system. You use SOP Manuals to size motors. You are a "component swapper." If the manual says "use a 50HP motor for this mass," you do it without ever asking why that mass requires that force. You are a Subcontracted Thinker, not an engineer.

Go back to your YouTube shorts, Spam-Bot Mark. You have no data, no original experiments, and no clue how the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is currently shredding your vacuum-ball model into pieces.

Markstimeup. You are fighting with a wooden sword you found in a Wikipedia trash can, and it's honestly getting embarrassing to watch.
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