The South Celestial Pole

This is very significant.  If the Earth is flat, then it makes sense that the stars should spin only on one axis, in this instance the North Pole, which we are all accustomed to.  But it also spins on a second axis, the South Pole, visible as such not only from Antarctica but also from a good many places far south such as Australia, New Zealand, Tierra del Fuego, etc.  This phenomenon makes sense for a globe but is very problematic for a Flat Earth.

Sigh. Yes. You are absolutely correct. This is one of MANY points that make FE completely and utterly impossible.

Quote from: Charming Anarchist on August 30, 2016, 11:39:01 AM

If we are floating on a "globe" then it should be impossible to capture both "celestial poles" in 1 photograph. 
There is something else going on.

Atmospheric refraction makes it possible.

Impossible. 
In the middle of that "photograph" an S-shaped star-path can be seen from the top-right to the bottom-left of the view.  That would mean your "globe" also pulled a back flip. 

You shills are falling apart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

How would that be possible on a flat disc anyway?

Lots of ways.  Here are my top 2 favorites: 
1) reflecting off the firmament;
2) a 2nd dome. 




Message to sane and honestly curious folks: 

The dome is a mirror and up above it is supposed to be more water, I am told. 
More water = more mirror 

2 parabolic reflective surfaces can create many illusions. 

Quote from: Brouwer on August 30, 2016, 12:02:19 PM

Quote from: Charming Anarchist on August 30, 2016, 11:39:01 AM

If we are floating on a "globe" then it should be impossible to capture both "celestial poles" in 1 photograph. 
There is something else going on.

Atmospheric refraction makes it possible.

Impossible. 
In the middle of that "photograph" an S-shaped star-path can be seen from the top-right to the bottom-left of the view.  That would mean your "globe" also pulled a back flip.

The "globe" is constantly pulling a back flip. It's rotating. But I honestly don't see any S-shaped star path in any of the pictures that have been provided so far. Perhaps you could point it out? At least tell us what picture you are referring to.

Quote from: Brouwer on August 30, 2016, 12:02:19 PM

How would that be possible on a flat disc anyway?

Lots of ways.  Here are my top 2 favorites: 
1) reflecting off the firmament;

What is it reflecting? It can't be reflecting the North Celestial Pole, because the stars are completely different in the south.

2) a 2nd dome. 

You are going to have to be more specific. How could a second dome explain anything?

2 parabolic reflective surfaces can create many illusions.

Sure. Can you draw a diagram of how these reflective surfaces show the south celestial pole? You can't just murmur "reflective surfaces" and pretend that explains anything.

This is not a photograph.  It is a computer generated combination of two photos taken facing away from each other

It is also not really correct to say the stars rotate oppositely in the southern hemisphere.   When you are near the equator the way they rotate just depends upon which direction you are standing.   Necessarily when you are in the south you watch the rotation facing the opposite direction (south) to when you are watching the rotation in the north

This is not a photograph.  It is a computer generated combination of two photos taken facing away from each other

It is also not really correct to say the stars rotate oppositely in the southern hemisphere.   When you are near the equator the way they rotate just depends upon which direction you are standing.   Necessarily when you are in the south you watch the rotation facing the opposite direction (south) to when you are watching the rotation in the north

The picture isn't even a true panorama. I tried it in my Oculus Rift just now, and while much of the distortion goes away, and the circles now actually are circles, it doesn't line up correctly down the middle (straight above me and left and right of me)