A simple test to disprove FE

Not that I really need too. The Earth is round. Full stop. But I must see if FE believers will say to this.

If you honestly think the Earth is flat. That the South Pole does not exist. Why don't a group of FE theorists simply set up an expedition to the South Pole. Or at least to the coast of Antartica to see there is not a wall of ice there but a continent. Ok it'll cost money and if I was rich enough I'd find it. Surely a group of you can all chip in and actually do it. It seems to me most the arguments for FE are based on either dismissing things such as photos or video. Or the bible or just " cos it looks like it " all pretty feeble.

A simpler way is to buy a good pair of binoculars and look at the ISS. Or how about the use of mathematics like the Greeks did a few thousand years ago

The fact is. The Earth is round. It is. Fact

Not that I really need too. The Earth is round. Full stop. But I must see if FE believers will say to this.

If you honestly think the Earth is flat. That the South Pole does not exist. Why don't a group of FE theorists simply set up an expedition to the South Pole. Or at least to the coast of Antartica to see there is not a wall of ice there but a continent. Ok it'll cost money and if I was rich enough I'd find it. Surely a group of you can all chip in and actually do it. It seems to me most the arguments for FE are based on either dismissing things such as photos or video. Or the bible or just " cos it looks like it " all pretty feeble.

A simpler way is to buy a good pair of binoculars and look at the ISS. Or how about the use of mathematics like the Greeks did a few thousand years ago

The fact is. The Earth is round. It is. Fact

I am a little confused.
Which part of this is the simple test.
If I can figure this simple part out, what will I be looking for?
Looking foreword to your next post in 12 months.

Quote from: Sibey1 on April 23, 2015, 02:03:50 AM

Not that I really need too. The Earth is round. Full stop. But I must see if FE believers will say to this.

If you honestly think the Earth is flat. That the South Pole does not exist. Why don't a group of FE theorists simply set up an expedition to the South Pole. Or at least to the coast of Antartica to see there is not a wall of ice there but a continent. Ok it'll cost money and if I was rich enough I'd find it. Surely a group of you can all chip in and actually do it. It seems to me most the arguments for FE are based on either dismissing things such as photos or video. Or the bible or just " cos it looks like it " all pretty feeble.

A simpler way is to buy a good pair of binoculars and look at the ISS. Or how about the use of mathematics like the Greeks did a few thousand years ago

The fact is. The Earth is round. It is. Fact

I am a little confused.
Which part of this is the simple test.
If I can figure this simple part out, what will I be looking for?

An expedition is being planned. Although apparently they need 4 million dollars for it.

Quote from: tappet on April 23, 2015, 02:22:33 AM

Quote from: Sibey1 on April 23, 2015, 02:03:50 AM

Not that I really need too. The Earth is round. Full stop. But I must see if FE believers will say to this.

If you honestly think the Earth is flat. That the South Pole does not exist. Why don't a group of FE theorists simply set up an expedition to the South Pole. Or at least to the coast of Antartica to see there is not a wall of ice there but a continent. Ok it'll cost money and if I was rich enough I'd find it. Surely a group of you can all chip in and actually do it. It seems to me most the arguments for FE are based on either dismissing things such as photos or video. Or the bible or just " cos it looks like it " all pretty feeble.

A simpler way is to buy a good pair of binoculars and look at the ISS. Or how about the use of mathematics like the Greeks did a few thousand years ago

The fact is. The Earth is round. It is. Fact

I am a little confused.
Which part of this is the simple test.
If I can figure this simple part out, what will I be looking for?

An expedition is being planned. Although apparently they need 4 million dollars for it.

Planned or not, its not simple for me to go, thus not so simple test.

A simpler way is to buy a good pair of binoculars and look at the ISS.

This would probably be the simplest test. You can even look up on google when and where you can see the ISS.

A simple test to disprove RE: look out your window. 

A simple test to disprove RE: look out your window.

So, you believe RET predicts blatantly obvious curvature?

Also, I see a field. Would, by your logic, a valid conclusion be that deserts do not exist?

Quote from: jroa on April 23, 2015, 05:20:54 AM

A simple test to disprove RE: look out your window.

So, you believe RET predicts blatantly obvious curvature?

Also, I see a field. Would, by your logic, a valid conclusion be that deserts do not exist?

The OP claimed that you can tell the shape of the Earth by looking at the sky.  My proposal was no less ridiculous, do you not agree? 

The OP claimed that you can tell the shape of the Earth by looking at the sky.  My proposal was no less ridiculous, do you not agree?

The OP gave a way you can disprove a statement of FET: show it does not apply to reality. That's what's required for a disproof.
You gave something that does not disprove a statement of RET, so what you said doesn't compare.

The most simple test is still to look if the sun sets in the evening or if it fades in the distance.

The most simple test is still to look if the sun sets in the evening or if it fades in the distance.

What is the FE answer to this? Bendy light? Aether whirlpools? Why can't the same things apply to the curvature of the earth?

Quote from: FalseProphet on April 23, 2015, 06:54:36 AM

The most simple test is still to look if the sun sets in the evening or if it fades in the distance.

What is the FE answer to this? Bendy light? Aether whirlpools? Why can't the same things apply to the curvature of the earth?

There is a reason why long time members of this forum end up adding numbers in the Nonsense section.

What is the FE answer to this?

Usually just evasion. JRowe's the one with a more original handwave, but I don't think anyone has a clue how his is meant to work.

A simple test to disprove RE: look out your window.

I'm in a car. The car seems to be moving.
But wait, I can be an idiot too, here's how I disprove Moving Car Theory: look out my window. The environment is moving, not me.

Well it's all gone into arguing from people sitting online. As I said there are simple tests to disprove FET totally. I mean it was done with mathematics thousands of years ago but hey ho.

The reply stating it will be 4m$ for a expedition to antartica? I found antartica cruises for around £4000

Ok FE people. I will personally but the damn stuff myself if a group of you would come to an experiment I will conduct. This will involve a weather balloon altitude of 31km and we can attach a video camera, still camera, live feed. Whatever and we can send it up. I think 31km will be enough. So. Get saying why it won't work. We can simply draw a straight line on the lens for reference. It'll cost around £300 all in. The real question is why haven't any FE people done this already and if you have I apologise but why won't you believe it if you have?

There is a psychological condition called belief reinforcement where a person/group of people will cling on to a belief no matter what the contrary evidence states. Maybe this site would form a great study of it.

Btw. The offer is genuine. I will purchase all the equipment to conduct a real experiment. Arguing online solves nothing. Science is about proving/disproving theories through experimentation.

Well it's all gone into arguing from people sitting online. As I said there are simple tests to disprove FET totally. I mean it was done with mathematics thousands of years ago but hey ho.

The reply stating it will be 4m$ for a expedition to antartica? I found antartica cruises for around £4000

Ok FE people. I will personally but the damn stuff myself if a group of you would come to an experiment I will conduct. This will involve a weather balloon altitude of 31km and we can attach a video camera, still camera, live feed. Whatever and we can send it up. I think 31km will be enough. So. Get saying why it won't work. We can simply draw a straight line on the lens for reference. It'll cost around £300 all in. The real question is why haven't any FE people done this already and if you have I apologise but why won't you believe it if you have?

There is a psychological condition called belief reinforcement where a person/group of people will cling on to a belief no matter what the contrary evidence states. Maybe this site would form a great study of it.

Btw. The offer is genuine. I will purchase all the equipment to conduct a real experiment. Arguing online solves nothing. Science is about proving/disproving theories through experimentation.

Draw your line on the lens, post your video and stop rattling on with shit.

Rattling on with shit? What the offer is. Is to conduct a proper experiment with FE guys attending so no one can say the lens was warped or I tampered in any other way or the defence line wasn't correct. I thought that was a good idea no " shit "

As I've read on this site numerous times photo/video evidence is dismissed by thats why its be done with people attending. Now I've answered in a decent way. How about responding in the same manner instead of a silly reply

Rattling on with shit? What the offer is. Is to conduct a proper experiment with FE guys attending so no one can say the lens was warped or I tampered in any other way or the defence line wasn't correct. I thought that was a good idea no " shit "

As I've read on this site numerous times photo/video evidence is dismissed by thats why its be done with people attending. Now I've answered in a decent way. How about responding in the same manner instead of a silly reply

No one is going to be attending.
I do not think you have the ability to even post a video made by yourself of a party balloon full of hot air.
Lets see if you can do this. Don't forget to write Sibey1 on the balloon.

Shame but I knew I'd get no takers. Why? It all seems to descend ( by FE believers ) to school ground insults like the above reply. As I said. If I posted the video then it's get dismissed as faked somehow. I guess it shows  that this is an armchair theorists site with no attempt whatsoever to do a real experiment or repeat experiments already done. The blatant dismissal of any video, photos from space verges on a kind of pseudo religious cult.

There is not one single, tangible, shred of anything to back up FE.

I declare this site a joke. It is not serious besides the obvious cases of belief perseverance.

Shame but I knew I'd get no takers. Why? It all seems to descend ( by FE believers ) to school ground insults like the above reply. As I said. If I posted the video then it's get dismissed as faked somehow. I guess it shows  that this is an armchair theorists site with no attempt whatsoever to do a real experiment or repeat experiments already done. The blatant dismissal of any video, photos from space verges on a kind of pseudo religious cult.

There is not one single, tangible, shred of anything to back up FE.

I declare this site a joke. It is not serious besides the obvious cases of belief perseverance.

I am so sorry, I did not realise you were so serious.
Could you post your address so I can make travel arrangements to get to your place as I am in OZ.
Do I need to book accommodation or will I be able to crash at your place?