Task for FE-ers

Using formulas from Flat Earth theory, can you show me how to calculate when and where will the next total Solar eclipse be?

Eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/solar.html

If you go to this link you will see the RE's calculate and predict based on the historical record. It is all layed out for you. It seems NASA stole this info from Canada.

I think he is asking for a flat earth version of this. http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/pdf-files/eclipse.pdf

Of course one does not exist because the earth is round but I'd imagen that's the point he is making.

The point is that, all past and future eclipse data is derived from observation in the past. Nobody needs to calculate anything.

I'm preaty certain the way I provided uses orbital machanics of a round earth in a sun centric model. Perhaps you could provide a flat earth, earth centeric model that correctly predicts eclipses?

Actually, Pythagoras, the method you provided takes past events to determine orbital paths based on round Earth theory.  It does not do as you claim.   

Flat earth astronomers were the first to predict celestial events. The Saros cycle was first known the Chaldeans. Astronomers still use the Saros cycle to predict eclipses. They do not compute the sun or moons orbit to predict an eclipse.

Flat earth astronomers were the first to predict celestial events.

Nope.   The Chaldean astronomers supported Aristarchus of Samos' heliocentric model of the planetary system.  They wrote that the earth and the heavens were a "spatial whole, even one of round shape" with references to "the circumference of heaven and earth".  No mention of a "flat" earth anywhere.   Aristarchus also said that the earth rotated around its own axis, which in turn revolved around the sun. 
 

Astronomers still use the Saros cycle to predict eclipses. They do not compute the sun or moons orbit to predict an eclipse.

While the Saros cycle is used, your second sentence quoted above is false. Solar eclipses can and are computed from first principles using orbital mechanics.

Quote from: Ski on February 06, 2014, 02:13:03 PM

Flat earth astronomers were the first to predict celestial events.

Nope.   The Chaldean astronomers supported Aristarchus of Samos' heliocentric model of the planetary system.  They wrote that the earth and the heavens were a "spatial whole, even one of round shape" with references to "the circumference of heaven and earth".  No mention of a "flat" earth anywhere.   Aristarchus also said that the earth rotated around its own axis, which in turn revolved around the sun.

So you quoted wiki, but didn't understand what it meant. Got it. They were flat earthers, and what you plagiarized there is also correct. And while the Aristarchus supported the Pythagorean mythos (and perhaps so did the later Hellenized Chaldeans), that is not the body of work of the ANE.

So you quoted wiki, but didn't understand what it meant. Got it. They were flat earthers, and what you plagiarized there is also correct. And while the Aristarchus supported the Pythagorean mythos (and perhaps so did the later Hellenized Chaldeans), that is not the body of work of the ANE.

What a feeble response.

In case you didn't know, Wikipedia content is actually in the public realm, and not subject to copyright.  You need to be very careful making false accusations of plagiarism—plus it makes you look rather petty.  And I suppose you'll also tell me that you never refer to Wiki?  Yeah, sure thing LOL.  You'd be the first person I've ever met that hasn't at some time.

Pythagoras defined the planet as spherical in the 5th century BCE.
 

You quoted it word for word without any sort of citation. What that tells me is that you have nothing to say on the subject that you cannot parrot. That's what plaguirism is. The presentation of someone else's work/idea as your own. That wikipedia has no legal recourse is of no nevermind.
Pythagoras defined the planet as spherical when elucidating his number cult in the 6th century BC. Aristarchus was another Greek pythagorean who came later. I'm not sure what your point is.

You quoted it word for word without any sort of citation.

Oh dear.  You are an angry little man—sniping away from the safety of your keyboard—aren't you?  LOL.

Nope.  No "word for word" quotation.  No citation needed.  Please grow up.
 

Quote from: ausGeoff on February 07, 2014, 07:40:08 PM

Quote from: Ski on February 06, 2014, 02:13:03 PM

Flat earth astronomers were the first to predict celestial events.

Nope.   The Chaldean astronomers supported Aristarchus of Samos' heliocentric model of the planetary system.  They wrote that the earth and the heavens were a "spatial whole, even one of round shape" with references to "the circumference of heaven and earth".  No mention of a "flat" earth anywhere.   Aristarchus also said that the earth rotated around its own axis, which in turn revolved around the sun.

So you quoted wiki, but didn't understand what it meant. Got it. They were flat earthers, and what you plagiarized there is also correct. And while the Aristarchus supported the Pythagorean mythos (and perhaps so did the later Hellenized Chaldeans), that is not the body of work of the ANE.

Quite ironic this reveals you ran straight to wikipedia to attempt a counter.

I do not think anyone that knows me has any doubts to my bonafides concerning ANE cosmology.

I do not think anyone that knows me has any doubts to my bonafides concerning ANE cosmology.

Fair enough.

I do know that Columbus predicted a total eclipse of the Moon based on RE theory whilst marooned on Jamaica to keep the Native Amerinds properly cowed so they would continue to supply water, food, & other necessaries to him & his men. He didn't really have much choice, since he was stuck there for a yr.