Personal experience contradicts the FE hypothesis

I give up, this is the most pethetic arguement I've ever heard. People here focus on distractions in the discussions, not actual, provable answers. Your point that thousands have died flying toward the south pole is hilarious, and I notice there is no proof presented. I wonder how many people have bloody heads from banging against the wall when getting answers like these. By the way, no, I'm not a teenager, I'm 56 years old, and I am a pilot, but who cares, that has nothing to do with my point.

Here's the bottom line, if there were an edge to the earth, there is no chance that SOMEBODY hasn't been there and lived to tell about it. We're supposidly surrounded by this edge, and in the history of mankind, nobody has ever seen it, they can't prove that it's there and with most of the people on this planet carrying a phone or handheld device with a built in camera, we don't still have a picture of it. How hard would it be to do that? Sorry, but I just can't beleive how obvious this is, yet you, as a seemingly inteligent person, don't see it that way. Wow! I give you credit for fighting for the cause, but then so did the Captain of the Titanic!

Planes capable of serious flight have been around for less than one hundred years. Before then, nobody would have had the means to get anywhere near the edge, if there is one. It is not at all unlikely that the edge would not be documented yet, as it would be extremely dangerous to reach it and nearly impossible to return. Some of us don't believe there is an edge at all, but that the earth is an infinite plane.

The answer is if you could fly that far, you'd fly off the edge.

How can this be demonstrated? It can't because you'd be intercepted before you got there. Do I think anyone has filed a flight plan from the Falklands >> the edge? No. It would be rejected. Have planes ever got lost and gone missing heading in that general direction? Yes, thousands.

Did you miss the bit in the FAQ where it says the there is a conspiracy to hide the shape of the earth? Proving you can fly off the edge is nigh on impossible. But so is proving that there is no God. Difficult to obtain proof does not constitute implausibility.

Quote from: SoNic on November 01, 2012, 03:15:57 PM

Quote from: Dudeman on November 01, 2012, 02:49:57 PM

I am a pilot. Do you understand what straight and level means?

Do you? What's the sensitivity of your artificial horizont? Can it show a diference of 2 parts per million from true level?

Every other teenager that comes to this site claims to be a pilot.

So since the dawn of humanity's ability to traverse open seas, there has been a unified organization to prevent people from seeing the edge of the Earth? Do you realize how many hundreds of years that is?

Planes capable of serious flight have been around for less than one hundred years. Before then, nobody would have had the means to get anywhere near the edge, if there is one. It is not at all unlikely that the edge would not be documented yet, as it would be extremely dangerous to reach it and nearly impossible to return. Some of us don't believe there is an edge at all, but that the earth is an infinite plane.

Thank you, that's the closest thing I've seen yet to a serious answer to my question. I didn't mean to sound sarcastic, but I was trying to see how this obvious problem with the theory could be explained away. I hadn't heard the infinite edge theory, but somebody should have said that a long time ago in order save a lot of rehashing the same question. However, I'm tired of beating the dead horse. I do find the discussions on this board intersting and fun to talk about, keep up the good work.

I give up

Indeed, flat earth theory is very compelling.

this is the most pethetic arguement I've ever heard. People here focus on distractions in the discussions, not actual, provable answers. Your point that thousands have died flying toward the south pole is hilarious, and I notice there is no proof presented. I wonder how many people have bloody heads from banging against the wall when getting answers like these. By the way, no, I'm not a teenager, I'm 56 years old, and I am a pilot, but who cares, that has nothing to do with my point.

Pilots tend to be level headed people, trained to deal with stressful situations. They are not trained to start banging their heads against all the controls when something doesn't go their way. Also in my experience, 56 year olds do not use words like 'dude'.

Here's the bottom line, if there were an edge to the earth, there is no chance that SOMEBODY hasn't been there and lived to tell about it. We're supposidly surrounded by this edge, and in the history of mankind, nobody has ever seen it, they can't prove that it's there and with most of the people on this planet carrying a phone or handheld device with a built in camera, we don't still have a picture of it. How hard would it be to do that? Sorry, but I just can't beleive how obvious this is, yet you, as a seemingly inteligent person, don't see it that way. Wow! I give you credit for fighting for the cause, but then so did the Captain of the Titanic!

Of course people have seen it. Its a conspiracy!

Thork - you probably aren't the right guy for posting on this site, your responses pretty much prove that you are far from an authority on this topic, maybe you should learn how to post with dignity and respect. And, you are the poster boy for someone who can't respond to technical questions and prefers to derail the discussion with your circus like side acts of picking out words out of context. Someone should confine you to reading rather than posting and giving this site a bad name and make it look like it's run by grade school kids like you.

Well, I don't know of anyone who has ever claimed to have traveled in a straight line without using navigation for 18 hours. In that light it's impossible to say where they would be. Nor can I imagine that anyone would try this insane thought experiment. Obviously, one would be out over the rim country if one flew far -- enough ignoring the hundreds of variables that would exist in the real world. People have flown over the rim country. None of them have reported reaching the edge (though there are some indications perhaps something odd was encountered by Admiral Byrd's expedition).

I'm having to laugh at some of the responses that are taking my question litterally. I've never claimed anyone flew 18 hours in a 747 straight and level and never suggested anyone would or should, does anyone understand the word "hypothetical"? It's the same as the grade school question that says " a train leaves New York for Chicago at 35 mph and another one leaves Chicago for New York at 40 mph, where do they cross?". This scenario has never taken place, nor will it ever, it's a "what if" question. Now can we ( for the last time ) try to answer this, maybe with simpler terms?

Lets start over, a plane, or a bird , or superman, or whatever object you want to use in this hypothetical case, flys due south from the Falkland Islands towards Antarctica. This is not a long trip, and people do this on a daily or weekly basis, so it isn't unrealistic or not able to be replicated, my proof, again is here:

http://adventuresincorporated.com/destinations/antarctica-adventures/trip-details.php?tid=209&cid=1

so, don't come back with "nobody has ever done this before", or the plane would be hijacked or some other silly response. How can people regularly fly to Antarctica from all over the world and never have seen the supposed "ice wall" that exists here. If it was there, somebody would have reported back long before now. If you think otherwise, then I would ask, if you're so dedicated to the FET, why wouldn't easily solve your life mission and visit it for yourself and put all the arguments to rest and bring us a picture or two and whatever else you would consider proof. If you insist on the FET, there has to be a logical, beleivable and provable explanation as to what happens when you fly beyond the so called end or edge of the Earth, otherwise, it makes no sense. Or, obviously, why is there no evidence after literally thousands of people have traveled there on any one of the tours offered to the public? Can you maybe see why this is a little tough to swallow?

Antartica IS the icewall.

I'm not sure why these teenagers love to claim themselves as pilots. Pilots are just glorified truck drivers and their expertise regarding various instruments on a civilian level is mediocre at best. Furthermore, using your profession as evidence of your opinion is a fallacy. Basically it is a recipe for no one to take you seriously.

I'm not sure why these teenagers love to claim themselves as pilots. Pilots are just glorified truck drivers and their expertise regarding various instruments on a civilian level is mediocre at best. Furthermore, using your profession as evidence of your opinion is a fallacy. Basically it is a recipe for no one to take you seriously.

Truck driving is more interesting. Planes just go on autopilot, they are glorified baby sitters.

Thats what I thought, lets dodge the question yet again in the hopes that it won't come up any more. It's shameful that people have to do whatever they can to derail a serious question to avoid being proven wrong. This seems to be the policy here, credibility is being flushed down the toilet. Great job FETs, and thanks for proving my point!

Never mind, I researched it myself and got the answer to what happens when you fly to the "end of the earth" in Antarctica, the answer: nothing, just a nice view of the ice. To quote:
"They ( Qantas Airlines ) have safely operated 85 flights over the 15 years taking more than 30,000 people to experience the world’s ‘last great wilderness’ during this one and a half decade". See below for the proof from two unrelated websites:

http://airlineworld.wordpress.com/tag/flying-over-antarctica/

http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/qantas-a380-to-fly-over-antarctica-for-new-years-eve-20090911-fkho.html

Aside from the infinite plain people, I think if there were an ice wall or definite boundary, one of these flights would prove it. OK, I'm done with this, how disappointing...

may I point out that a matrix scenario has fewer flaws and is way more believable a conspiracy. there is a point in which we must just assume that the "conspiracy" is actually the reality, or if it is indeed a conspiracy it really makes no difference because we might as well assume it is if it doesn't change how our lives function. so I have to ask all FE believers how many people must be in on this conspiracy before you finally say that it is either the reality or it doesn't make any difference? also can anyone provide me with a possible motivation for this conspiracy that could explain the amount of effort put into maintaining this illusion?