Flat Earth Theory Qs

I am not a cartographer, are you?

I don't need a cartographer to see that the FE map is wrong.

Not only is Boatsy on the dust, but he can prove the Earth is flat, too.  He is a hero amongst men, and women for that matter.

Quote from: jroa on July 15, 2012, 09:54:20 AM

I am not a cartographer, are you?

I don't need a cartographer to see that the FE map is wrong.

Now you are starting to make sense.

My charts are flat, when I am sailing I track the status of the ship and its heading on a flat chart/ flat electronic chart. When I look out the porthole I see a vast expanse of ocean that looks flat. That flat ocean correlates perfectly with what my flat charts are telling me.

The flatness is everywhere.

Why can't people understand this?  It makes perfect sense.  And, it is coming from a pirate, to boot.

don't say "to boot" moms going to come out of left field and call you a Canadian! Did you see what she did to me when I said "to boot" im not Floridian anymore!

It's ok.  I did a Canadian once.  I am allowed to say it.

My charts are flat, when I am sailing I track the status of the ship and its heading on a flat chart/ flat electronic chart. When I look out the porthole I see a vast expanse of ocean that looks flat. That flat ocean correlates perfectly with what my flat charts are telling me.

The flatness is everywhere.

Are we back to the mother of all stupid arguments: it looks flat therefore it is?

Yes, we could insult your mother, too.  But we won't because we are grown ups. 

I sense anger. The flatness feeds this anger. Give in to the anger, let the flatness consume you. All will be explained in due time.

This is going to get moved to CN soon if we do not turn it around.

So, Boatsy, give us your theory on life: in detail.

Wait I shall save us all (Pongo is online)

Now about this GPS situation. I want to know something. The OP clearly stats GPS uses satellites. Now that is impossible, GPS uses an array of ground based antennas. the Loran stations are all shut down. What towers are used?

Bam, in your face OP.  And this is coming from a pirate.  He should know a little something about the Earth.

I know many things about the Earth! You travel in a circle without actually turning on the flat Earth, how magical is that!... pretty magical! This flat Earth is fascinating!

Proof at hand.  What now?  OP?

There are two very large expanses of ocean there to cover with radio towers floating on water, and high enough to provide a 3D position fix.

Does the Sun travel in a circle around the disc halfway
Through it's radius?
How are seasons accounted for? And why does Sunrise/set time
change daily?

Do I really need to point you to the wiki again?

Correct me if I am wrong Jroa, but the sun according to FE is not traveling in a exact set circle all the time. So sunrise/sunset times differ due to the path the sun takes is not always the same every day.

Correct me if I am wrong Jroa, but the sun according to FE is not traveling in a exact set circle all the time. So sunrise/sunset times differ due to the path the sun takes is not always the same every day.

Yes, the sun rises and sets at different times on different days.  Where is this going?

Ha! it's going no where!

Except answering Art's question because you and I both know he did not go read the wiki!!

Every cartographer that I have known, all two of them, have made flat maps.  I wonder why?

Because our screens and paper are flat,
And we have to read from them unless we carry a sphere around.

I read the FAQ.
It illustrates the Sun's movement in a perfect circle
Of which the radius varies according to season.
The Sun rises and sets at different times every day.
This isn't explained in the FAQ.
If I produced a model of the Sun rotating around a flat Earth
Using data provided by this forum,
There would be inconsistency in the areas of
The Earth lit at any given time.

You don't need to survey the Earth to produce a map.
Our spherical coordinate system works.
Doesn't matter if it's premise is false.

So in what pattern does the Sun move around the
disc of the Earth to give the effect of differing
Rise and set times daily? And the moon
for that matter..

And for that matter, how does it set if it's always overhead? This question has never been answered, although I believe I've asked it in several threads.

And for that matter, how does it set if it's always overhead? This question has never been answered, although I believe I've asked it in several threads.

That is answered in the FAQ, it apparently becomes smaller as it becomes distant.
Why it appears to set on a vertical plane, I'm sure there's some explanation for that.

It would be interesting as a programmer to bring a model of this flat Earth to life,
but the input data cannot be provided, so the outcome will always be false for
that reason, rather than FET being just plain incorrect.

It smells a bit like a religious debate where the Deist side can't prove anything,
but they can reject any and all evidence used against them. It goes nowhere.
At least they can present a model of the way they think things are (properly).

I feel I've spent too much time on this forum for that reason.

That's what I'm asking, why does it set? As in, appear to go below a horizontal plane? Especially since I've been told that you can't see it at night for various reasons, usually something like, the atmo-layer is too thick, or all the light is focused on one spot (but somehow doesn't get to me. The sun never appeared to get smaller to me. Just to disappear behind the horizon.