Pangea and FE Theory?

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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #180 on: June 15, 2011, 10:33:29 AM »
Of every tool using creature on earth there is evidence of all, including humans. There is fossilized evidence of dinosaurs existence, but no evidence of "ingenious structures" You are not a geologist or a scientist, until you can give proof of a degree that you have any sort of higher education than mine "middle school" and i don't just mean high school, prove you're a scientist james.
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #181 on: June 15, 2011, 07:42:23 PM »
Of every tool using creature on earth there is evidence of all, including humans.

How could you possibly presume to know this?  I'm assuming I understand your point; I had to read it three times before I could make any sense of it at all.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #182 on: June 15, 2011, 07:59:46 PM »
Of every tool using creature on earth there is evidence of all, including humans.

How could you possibly presume to know this?  I'm assuming I understand your point; I had to read it three times before I could make any sense of it at all.
well i meant there is evidence of any culture ever created and it is normally more prominent than any biological remains
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #183 on: June 15, 2011, 08:04:08 PM »
well i meant there is evidence of any culture ever created...


How could you possibly presume to know this?
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #184 on: June 15, 2011, 08:11:31 PM »
well i meant there is evidence of any culture ever created...


How could you possibly presume to know this?
how could you presume to know if there isn't evidence, nothing to observe?
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #185 on: June 15, 2011, 08:15:54 PM »
well i meant there is evidence of any culture ever created...


How could you possibly presume to know this?
how could you presume to know if there isn't evidence, nothing to observe?

What am I presuming to know?
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #186 on: June 15, 2011, 09:57:05 PM »
It's not very Zetetic to state that non-avian dinosaurs used tools without directly seeing it.

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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #187 on: June 15, 2011, 10:03:37 PM »
It's not very Zetetic to state that non-avian dinosaurs used tools without directly seeing it.

No, it's not.  James is not very zetetic.
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #188 on: June 16, 2011, 03:18:43 AM »
To be fair I think this conversation of animals using tools, of which there is amble evidence to be fair (there arnt many animals that dont use 'tools' or the environment to their advantage) is distracting from the more profound comments made by James. I ask again without plate tectonics how and why is magma of different compositions in different localities and why do we observe an iron-enrichment (tholeiitic  system) under what we believe (with plenty of evidence) to be subduction zones in particular?

A FE 'geologist' as he appears to claim to be should be able to answer this easily.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2011, 03:25:57 AM by Geology_Undergrad »

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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #189 on: June 16, 2011, 02:22:53 PM »
why is magma of different compositions in different localities .
How much magma have you collected and analyzed?
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #190 on: June 16, 2011, 09:21:12 PM »
I've watched melt come out of volcanoes and analyzed the solidified content.

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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #191 on: June 17, 2011, 10:48:43 AM »
So....how much magma have you collected and analyzed then?
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #192 on: June 17, 2011, 09:17:21 PM »
magma, none. plenty of lava though. but again you offer no solutions as to why some basalts are enriched in iron, instead you att ack the theory with nothing sensible to replace it with, unscientific behavior in my opinion.

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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #193 on: June 18, 2011, 05:15:42 AM »
If you've never studied magma then why do you think you can make assumptions about it  ???
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #194 on: June 18, 2011, 06:42:48 AM »
Assumptions such as magma becoming lava once it reaches the surface?
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #195 on: June 18, 2011, 09:38:04 AM »
to me the magma- lava thing is just terminology i'm sure some changes can occur on the surface (other than the cooling) but hot lava is just surfaced magma
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #196 on: June 20, 2011, 08:48:03 AM »
If you've never studied magma then why do you think you can make assumptions about it  ???
In the same spirit then i challenge you if you've never seen the earth is flat how can you make assumptions about it? (your eye isnt sensitive enough and no ones presented any real evidence on here)

I believe science is as much about what we can see as what we cant, geology is an observational science still to this day, many of the processes the earth undergoes we cannot recreate in a lab and thats what makes it so dahm interesting. Instead of seeing the process we often only see the result or part of a much larger system in action all earth sciences will extrapolate the information they observe to come to conclusions that fit with other widely accepted theories. The FE theory isn't conclusive, it doesn't make any logical sense with the scientific knowledge of the day.

Science is progressive, once every one believed in a FE type model but time, evidence and research has proven the model flawed and so the consensus is replaced with a more robust model, that is true science. To deny such processes as plate tectonics is madness as its a corner stone of the earth sciences, when it has been subject to 1000's of reviews and research pieces.
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #197 on: June 20, 2011, 03:41:42 PM »
If you've never studied magma then why do you think you can make assumptions about it  ???
In the same spirit then i challenge you if you've never seen the earth is flat how can you make assumptions about it? (your eye isnt sensitive enough and no ones presented any real evidence on here)
But I have seen that the Earth is flat. I see it every time I look across Lake Michigan. However, you were merely guessing before with your 'science'.
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #198 on: June 20, 2011, 06:54:57 PM »

In the same spirit then i challenge you if you've never seen the earth is flat how can you make assumptions about it? (your eye isnt sensitive enough and no ones presented any real evidence on here)
[/quote]But I have seen that the Earth is flat. I see it every time I look across Lake Michigan. However, you were merely guessing before with your 'science'.
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Have you been to a point high enough where you could see the entire earth, at least with some powerful telescope? if you haven't tried i think you'll find you can't see South Africa from California or what ever happens to be on the other side of you if you were on a RE model
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #199 on: June 20, 2011, 07:02:35 PM »
But I have seen that the Earth is flat. I see it every time I look across Lake Michigan.

Have you ever seen all the way across Lake Michigan?
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #200 on: July 03, 2011, 08:29:07 PM »
But I have seen that the Earth is flat. I see it every time I look across Lake Michigan.

Have you ever seen all the way across Lake Michigan?
Which direction? I can see Indiana.
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Re: Pangea and FE Theory?
« Reply #201 on: July 08, 2011, 10:20:57 PM »
Dogplatter rejects it.  I know that Ski doesn't have any problem with it; I'm sure I've seen other FEers express that sentiment as well.
I hold the continents were all one, but in a different configuration, close to expanding earth theory.
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