Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity

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Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« on: August 20, 2009, 09:11:28 PM »
If gravity is caused by constant acceleration of the flat Earth, what force is producing this acceleration.  Newton's first law states "an object in uniform motion tends to stay in uniform motion unless acted upon by a net external", what is the external force applied to the earth?

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2009, 09:15:10 PM »
If gravity is caused by constant acceleration of the flat Earth, what force is producing this acceleration.  Newton's first law states "an object in uniform motion tends to stay in uniform motion unless acted upon by a net external", what is the external force applied to the earth?

Unknown, though there are a number of hypotheses.  It is unlikely to be known for a long time to come until we have the technology to dig far into the Earth or find its edge.
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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 09:19:53 PM »
turtles and iguanas.

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2009, 09:25:02 PM »
The mechanism is unknown, but it is given the placeholder name of Dark Energy.

Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2009, 09:26:36 PM »
What would digging into the Earth uncover?  maybe there are giant rockets on the bottom? and if so when do you think they will run out of fuel, because we should start preparing for that

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2009, 04:17:03 AM »
What would digging into the Earth uncover?  maybe there are giant rockets on the bottom? and if so when do you think they will run out of fuel, because we should start preparing for that

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2009, 05:48:56 AM »
Only here would i have to clarify that I am kidding

Yes i am 

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2009, 06:06:27 AM »
Newton's First Law is valid only in Inertial Frames of Reference. A freely falling object is actually moving uniformly relative to an external inertial observer. As the Earth is accelerating with respect to such an inertial FoR, it is a non-inertial FoR, and, therefore, Newton's First Law is inapplicable to it.

Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2009, 02:57:18 PM »
But for the Earth to overcome inertia it must have an external for applied to it.   You can't say that it is accelerating because it is accelerating.  There must be an external force continuing to accelerate the Earth, otherwise it would just remain at a constant velocity and we would all be weightless.

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2009, 03:07:52 PM »
But for the Earth to overcome inertia it must have an external for applied to it.   You can't say that it is accelerating because it is accelerating.  There must be an external force continuing to accelerate the Earth, otherwise it would just remain at a constant velocity and we would all be weightless.

That force that you mention is theorized to be a form of dark energy known to FE'ers as the Universal Accelerator.
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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2009, 03:17:54 PM »
Is the force attached to the Earth via a huge net? 

Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2009, 03:38:38 PM »
By the way I love your signature

"I've made up my mind.  Don't confuse me with the facts"

Makes it a little obvious that you are not being serious

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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2009, 04:02:06 PM »
By the way I love your signature

"I've made up my mind.  Don't confuse me with the facts"

Makes it a little obvious that you are not being serious

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2009, 05:30:32 PM »
But for the Earth to overcome inertia it must have an external for applied to it.   You can't say that it is accelerating because it is accelerating.  There must be an external force continuing to accelerate the Earth, otherwise it would just remain at a constant velocity and we would all be weightless.

The same applies to either FET or RET, since even the most basic of mechanical experiments make it clear that we are not in an inertial frame of reference.
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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2009, 06:27:41 PM »
We experience acceleration around the Sun due to its gravitational pull, and gravity is not the result of constand upward acceleration it is due to a significant mass (the Earth).  So RET works ... what about the FET

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2009, 06:45:50 PM »
We experience acceleration around the Sun due to its gravitational pull, and gravity is not the result of constand upward acceleration it is due to a significant mass (the Earth).  So RET works ... what about the FET

Gravity is an inertial force. That is to say, if the net force on you was zero, you would be falling down relative to the surface of the Earth.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2009, 06:56:15 PM »

Well then I want to know if there is anyone out there who actually believes the FET ... or is this just an argument simply because you can argue it, much in the same way you can argue anything. 
eg. I don?t believe colours are consistent, what looks red to you might be green to me however I call it green because that is the name I know it by.  I can set up a blog arguing this and no one can prove it wrong and it would be funny ... but not serious ... in fact I might just do that, however this theory makes more sense then the FET.  Maybe I need to go a bit more crazy, did you know that this world is actually just a "video game" for another world and we are just being controlled by an alien for fun...

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2009, 07:01:59 PM »

Well then I want to know if there is anyone out there who actually believes the FET ... or is this just an argument simply because you can argue it, much in the same way you can argue anything. 
eg. I don?t believe colours are consistent, what looks red to you might be green to me however I call it green because that is the name I know it by.  I can set up a blog arguing this and no one can prove it wrong and it would be funny ... but not serious ... in fact I might just do that, however this theory makes more sense then the FET.  Maybe I need to go a bit more crazy, did you know that this world is actually just a "video game" for another world and we are just being controlled by an alien for fun...


This is irrelevant to the thread.
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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2009, 07:02:56 PM »
Gravity is a force that can cause something to overcome inertia ... with a RE this is caused by the Earth's Mass, however, if that does not cause gravity and as the FET believers suggest gravity is a force felt by us as the Earth accelerates upwards, then there must be something that is pushing us.  this must be perpetual energy, because it is always in one direction and infinite.  If this was true, then there would be no need for any Fuels, we can use this energy to power everything on Earth.  Fantastic, the FET has saved us billions !!  

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2009, 07:03:54 PM »
Gravity is a force that can cause something to overcome inertia ... with a RE this is caused by the Earth's Mass

Wrong.

however, if that does not cause gravity and as the FET believers suggest gravity is a force felt by us as the Earth accelerates upwards, then there must be something that is pushing us.  this must be perpetual energy, because it is always in one direction and infinite.  If this was true, then there would be no need for any Fuels, we can use this energy to power everything on Earth.  Fantastic, the FET has saved us billions !!  

Where is your evidence that the acceleration is infinite?
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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2009, 07:09:38 PM »
well we have not stopped in the last few billion years, and we are not increasing out acceleration, it seems that it is consistent and infinite

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Re: Newton's Laws, acceleration and gravity
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2009, 07:15:45 PM »
well we have not stopped in the last few billion years, and we are not increasing out acceleration, it seems that it is consistent and infinite

"Very long time" and "infinite" are not the same thing.
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