A little shaken up.

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ArmyROTC

A little shaken up.
« on: June 20, 2006, 08:14:06 PM »
Hello All,

   I am new to this subject so please bear with me, I read the FAQ and seem to have some questions.  After reading them I am thinking about if there actually is a flat earth.  I am not here to criticize or to put down the theory of a Flat Earth, I am here for convincing.  I apologize if any are repeats of other's questions.  If so please link me to there topic.

  From the FAQ "A. The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions as a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions."

  1. Wouldn't a "North Pole" indicate that there is a rotation of the Earth, hence on an axis?
  2. Wouldn't the "'hot light'" melt the ice wall, and how would it get from the end of it's cycle back to the beginning? (2nd part meaning once it reached the end of the earth how would it all of a sudden move all the way back to the other side?)
  3. What sort of "optical illusions" are used to show apparent rising and setting of the "sun"?


Thank you for your patience and thanks for the welcome to your forums.

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Erasmus

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Re: A little shaken up.
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2006, 09:31:18 PM »
Quote from: "ArmyROTC"
1. Wouldn't a "North Pole" indicate that there is a rotation of the Earth, hence on an axis?


No.  The pole is merely the centre of the disk.  Dinner plates, pancakes, vynil records, and saw blades have centres, even when they are not spinning.

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2. Wouldn't the "'hot light'" melt the ice wall,


No more than the sunlight in the RE melts ice in Antarctica.

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and how would it get from the end of it's cycle back to the beginning?


It goes in a full circle, centered on the "north pole".

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3. What sort of "optical illusions" are used to shw apparent rising and setting of the "sun"?


The sort that causes everything to appear to get smaller as it gets farther away.
Why did the chicken cross the Möbius strip?

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sto0fo0

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Re: A little shaken up.
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2006, 11:46:07 PM »
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3. What sort of "optical illusions" are used to shw apparent rising and setting of the "sun"?


The sort that causes everything to appear to get smaller as it gets farther away.


Wouldn't this indicate that the sun would start to look as if its a thinning oval type shape as it distances itself? If it is doing this why does the shape of the sun flatten as it touches the horizon? Don't tell me that I can't see that part of the sun because an object as bright as the sun would project its light for lightyears. And I know the earth doesnt take lightyears to travel "across".

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FlatAnus

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A little shaken up.
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2006, 05:54:56 AM »
spectrometers prove that the suns intensity makes it the temperature it is, which suggests if it was as close as you say it is it WOULD melt the ice, sorry guys.

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RenaissanceMan

Re: A little shaken up.
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2006, 05:21:57 AM »
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3. What sort of "optical illusions" are used to shw apparent rising and setting of the "sun"?


The sort that causes everything to appear to get smaller as it gets farther away.


Wouldn't this indicate that the sun would start to look as if its a thinning oval type shape as it distances itself? If it is doing this why does the shape of the sun flatten as it touches the horizon? Don't tell me that I can't see that part of the sun because an object as bright as the sun would project its light for lightyears. And I know the earth doesnt take lightyears to travel "across".


Uh huh! If you analyze the model, you see that the sun doesn't 'orbit' the earth, but goes around in a circle above it... either right above the equator or, due to changes in season, inward or outward of the equator.

Of course, at night there is no reason why you couldn't see the sun... as you have direct line of sight to it no matter where it is, so FE theory holds that the sun's light can only go a short distance. Obviously, this is all batguano insane, and the mods are just running some kind of psycological experiment to see how people will react.

If this model were true, then the sun would be clearly smaller when it first 'appears' as it's twice as far away, then get progressively larger approaching noon. It doesn't.