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Flat Earth Q&A / Good, too good.
« on: January 31, 2006, 08:33:51 AM »
Quote from: "cheesejoff"


Spherical? The Earth is not a sphere. It is slightly larger around the equator.


God, please....Thanks Einstein, can we just skip the details and call it a sphere???
When people ask me how old I am, I don't say that I'm 25 years, 268 days, 11 hours, 31 minutes and 40 seconds old, do I?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Reason for why the governments conspire!
« on: January 26, 2006, 03:53:03 PM »
I wasn't trolling! I've discored all about the reptoids just a few days ago... The earth IS flat after all! But you must know the truth... they're after me! I can smell their... AARRRGHHGAHGHHHHHH.....

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Flat Earth Q&A / Reason for why the governments conspire!
« on: January 26, 2006, 11:01:22 AM »





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Quote from: "bullhorn"
Now if I can show you want is wrong with this equation, you must assume that I can do so with more complex.



Now, if I can get my thumb up my ass, surely I can get my entire arm up there, and then both my arms and my legs, and then I'm completely inside-out and ..... TA-DDAAAAAA!!!!

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Flat Earth Q&A / My question to all the round-earthers
« on: January 22, 2006, 10:42:11 AM »
I still don't understand the conspiracy theory... What's the interest of having us believing in a round earth if it really is flat?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Are there images available a the ice-wall?
« on: January 20, 2006, 10:03:05 AM »
Quote from: "Hardhead"
Just for the record, I don't believe in the ice wall.  It may exist, but it may not.


This brings us back to the question: howcome the water doesn't fall off the face of the earth?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Question for the Round Earthers
« on: January 19, 2006, 05:07:32 PM »
Quote from: "Hardhead"
But we're being pulled around the Sun, not the Moon.  So that would certainly imply that it has the greater gravitational pull.  Yet, the tides are influenced by the Moon....


We are not actually pulled around the sun. We are simply stuck in orbit around it, and when compared, the moon's gravitational pull is twice as powerful as the sun's because it's much closer.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Sunsets/Sunrises?
« on: January 19, 2006, 04:56:25 PM »
Quote from: "Hardhead"
Quote from: "pablo"
so the moon is lit by...


Quote from: "I"
Due to the name calling, this is the last time I will respond to one of your posts.


You could also apologize and promise a civil discussion from here on.


 i stand by my name-calling...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Question for the Round Earthers
« on: January 19, 2006, 04:54:09 PM »
Quote from: "Hardhead"
Quote from: "Cinlef"
Your logic is flawless and would totally destroy the round earth theory if you had not omitted a fairly vital point.
The Moon is significantly closer to the earth than the Sun thousands of times closer in fact. This means while the moons gravity is less than that of the sun its also closer and therefore does exert itself on the tides. Thats the basic idea however poorly explained
Say how do falt earthers explain tides anyway?
An enraged
Cinlef


I didn't leave that out.  Look at my original post.

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In your world, the Sun exerts a greater gravitational pull on the Earth than the Moon does, thus, we revolve around the Sun. Correct?


While I'm aware that you believe the Sun to be much more massive but far away, my questoin regarded the final amount of pull.  

But, OK... if the Moon exerts a greater pull (due to much less distance), then why do we revolve around the Sun and not the Moon?


The earth is bigger than the moon, the sun is bigger than the earth, and because the moon is close enough to the earth it is subjected to the earth's gravity which is in turn subjected to the sun's... that's to say that the moon is also subjeted to the sun's gravital pull, it just happen's to also be stuck in orbit around the earth.

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Flat Earth Q&A / walking off the earth
« on: January 19, 2006, 04:50:01 PM »
Quote from: "bullhorn"
To make a long answer short I dont know why.  One can assume that it is for our own good as a people.


How nice of all these people to be looking out for us like that!

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Flat Earth Q&A / Question for the Round Earthers
« on: January 19, 2006, 04:46:11 PM »
Quote from: "Hardhead"
Quote from: "pablo"
keep going means "yes, and..."


Then why, if the sun exerts a greater gravitational pull, is the Moon's gravity what dictates the tides, and not the Sun's?  The Sun has a greater pull on land, but the Moon does on water?  That isn't very intuitive.


No one said that the sun didn't have any effect on the tides... It actually ahs alot to do with it... When you have a full moon or a new moon, that's to say when the earth, the sun and the moon form a line, you get the strongest tides... whereas when the moon is at the first and 3rd quarter, when the moon and the sun are at a right angle, you get the weakest tides.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Sunsets/Sunrises?
« on: January 19, 2006, 03:43:17 PM »
so the moon is lit by...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Question for the Round Earthers
« on: January 19, 2006, 03:42:06 PM »
keep going means "yes, and..."

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Flat Earth Q&A / Sunsets/Sunrises?
« on: January 19, 2006, 03:12:42 PM »
Quote from: "Hardhead"
Quote from: "pablo"
right... light gets pulled down by the earth's gravity cause it's such a heavy matter...


And I thought the Round Earthers were complaining about flat earthers lack of insightful replies.  That's why I started posting!

Light is affected by gravity.  That's a basic fact that everyone believes in.  It's the main tenant behind Black Holes*, you know.


*: Not that I'm saying I believe in those either, but hey.  They could exist.


That's why I specified earth's gravity moron... you're comparing the gravity pull of a blackhole to that of the earth... if the earth's gravity was enough to pull out all light beyond a portion of it's surface, there'd be no light beyond the planet...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Question for the Round Earthers
« on: January 19, 2006, 03:04:44 PM »
keep going....

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Flat Earth Q&A / Sunsets/Sunrises?
« on: January 19, 2006, 03:03:59 PM »
right... light gets pulled down by the earth's gravity cause it's such a heavy matter...

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Flat Earth Q&A / walking off the earth
« on: January 19, 2006, 02:57:39 PM »
Quote from: "Crass"
the round-earth theory was invented in the early 50's between the us and ussr governments. the space race was all choreographed and faked jointly by the 2 nations in a WWF pro-wrestling fake fighting sort of way. they got sputnik, we got apollo, it was all a lie to keep everyone beliveing the earth was round.


Can anyone explain to me the reasons behind that conspiracy to "keep everyone believing the earth is round"? I mean people don't conspire just for the heck of it...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Where are all the flat-earthers?
« on: January 19, 2006, 10:12:23 AM »
Quote from: "bullhorn"
We are aware of the happenings on the forum,  in due time we will speak again.


If you're waiting to prove the earth is flat we'll be waiting for a while....

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Fine, then stop using as an argument that the earth must be flat cause that's the way you see it through your window. Then stop dismissing any image of the earth taken from space by calling them doctored. Then quit saying that you'll believe it when you see it, cause in that case, here's a list of things I haven't seen first-hand and that may as well be all part of conspiracies:

9/11
the war in Iraq
the French revolution
th American revolution
the Kennedy assassination
WWI
WWII
Vietnam war
Korean war
the A-bomb
Evolution
the Moon landing
The signing of the American constitution
the Cuban missile crisis
the Rwandese genocide
the Holocaust
the Mayan genocide
Elvis
the Roman empire
the pyramides
satellites
microwaves
gamma rays
ultra-violets
the Berlin wall
the Cold war
Richard Nixon
George Washington
Abraham Lincoln
Michelangelo
Leonardo Da Vinci
the avian flu
aids
the Chernobyl explosion
Gandhi
Pompeii
Troy
the Vikings in Newfoundland
Mount Everest
Martin Luther King
the Playboy mansion
Dinosaurs
Mozart
... and many more...

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but you're still believing in something that you haven't seen yourself, which is the principal argument for flat-earthers...
Maybe all the people you know who claim to have seen Iraq are all part of a conspiracy too...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Questions regarding a Flat Earth
« on: January 17, 2006, 03:52:23 PM »
Quote from: "6strings"
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So you believe in the concept of global warming but you don't believe that the earth is round?

Statement B does not follow statement A.

What you said breaks down to something like this:
Statement A: You believe the earth is flat
ergo
Statement B: You should believe the earth is round.

See how those don't necessitate each other?


Again, you missed my point... of course global warming doesn't disprove that the earth is flat...

I'm just pointing out that he believes in a fairly new and complex concept which he has not observe first hand...

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Quote from: "6strings"
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Do you believe in the existence of Irak?

I'm assuming you mean "Iraq".  And posting meaningless rhetoric isn't condusive to anything, but yes, everyone here belives in Iraq.

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Fine then, what about the holocaust? Do you guys believe in the holocaust?

Alright, you clearly missed the entire Dionysios incident, wherin he was claiming that the Holocaust was simply a way the jews thought they could gain sympathy.  Notice how he isn't here anymore? (granted there were other factors that contributed to this...like his racism)  Does that answer your question.  Again, meaningless rhetoric.


Have you been to Iraq? I'm assuming that if you believe in the existence of Iraq you must have seen it first hand...
Ditto for the Holocaust...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Questions regarding a Flat Earth
« on: January 17, 2006, 08:29:01 AM »
Quote from: "alex2539"
Granted, they're melting because of global warming, but that doesn't exactly disprove a flat Earth.


So you believe in the concept of global warming but you don't believe that the earth is round?

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Fine then, what about the holocaust? Do you guys believe in the holocaust?

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Do you believe in the existence of Irak?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Magnetism on a Flat Earth?????
« on: January 16, 2006, 08:17:30 AM »
Quote from: "6strings"
Touche, Mundi, my friend, touche...
Of course, if I really needed to get a green card...

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I'm already here dude...

Anxious aren't we?  Alright, I'll need you to wire me $1000 to come and join you.  Also, I'm the man in the relationship.  Although I'm failry sure this would be self-evidnt, as you strike me as extremely effeminate.  Not that you'll actually be striking, of course, that's my job.  Canada has fairly loose laws about spouse abuse...


we do? please tell me more about our legal system...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Magnetism on a Flat Earth?????
« on: January 15, 2006, 04:07:25 PM »
I'm already here dude...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Magnetism on a Flat Earth?????
« on: January 15, 2006, 03:11:17 PM »
I love how you just make up things and make them facts

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Flat Earth Q&A / Poles cold, equator not: Why?
« on: January 15, 2006, 10:51:10 AM »
so the "east" and "west" references in your model are totally arbitrary...

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Flat Earth Q&A / More plausible gravity theory
« on: January 15, 2006, 10:47:41 AM »
Quote from: "alex2539"
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Hi, I'm back.

So, what I meant was, "Exactly which observable phenomenon do other theories of flat-Earth or round-Earth gravity fail to address, which you hope your theory adequately explains?"
The other one was torn to shreds in every way possible, so I took it upon myself to make this one.

And pablo, a theory is basically that. You take what you know and put togehter a likely explanation. I "know" that the Earth is flat, that gravity accelerates objects at a rate of 9.8m/s^2, that living beings can adpat to changse in their environment, and that gravity is caused by the mass of an object and the attraction to its center. If the Earth itself were attracting us with its gravity,then people would be standing at angles of something around 5 degrees in some places of the world, more so as they get closer to the rim, which just doesn't work. So, it stands to reason that there must be a larger object on which the Earth rests to allow gravity to occur in a more natural, liveable manner. That manner which we currently experience.


Sorry man, a theory is more than an assumption that can't be tested or verified. A theory is an assumption that things are what they are based on observed facts.
Until you can test your so-called theory, it remains your own personnal belief and you will need much more than that to convince people that you are right...

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