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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Why?
« on: September 26, 2008, 09:28:50 AM » didn't used to be a mod did you? What nut gave you those powers?

Flat Earth Q&A / Why?
« on: September 26, 2008, 09:13:29 AM »
Why did people wake me from my slumber?

The Lounge / Re: d's & t's
« on: September 26, 2008, 09:10:16 AM »
Of all the members to emulate, you chose Saddam?

But of course, he is the coolest.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Cloning Jesus from stale bread
« on: February 20, 2007, 10:43:14 AM »
Yeastianity is cool. Would the head of the Yeastians be the Pan?

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: ok, this site is a joke guys....relax
« on: February 20, 2007, 10:40:35 AM »
So is your incomplete high school education.


Like I went to school.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Cloning Jesus from stale bread
« on: February 20, 2007, 10:38:28 AM »
I always laugh when a chick claims they didn't. They honestly wouldn't know. My girlfriend let out a little one when she was pushing and the midwife wrapped it up and threw it away so quickly I almost didn't realise she shat herself.

Then there's the baby itself, nothing sounds more evil than the scream of a new born baby. The fact they look like mini-golems doesn't help things along.

I wonder if giving birth to a breadjesus would be easier, he should be more squidgy.

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: ok, this site is a joke guys....relax
« on: February 20, 2007, 10:27:27 AM »
So's your face!

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Cloning Jesus from stale bread
« on: February 20, 2007, 10:12:06 AM »
The nastiness is childbirth. Don't listen to anybody when they start talking about the "miracle" of childbirth. It's not pretty... especially the afterbirth.

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: You may have noticed a little change..
« on: February 20, 2007, 10:09:29 AM »
Also, is there something special you're supposed to do to get these to work:



Flat Earth Q&A / Re: You may have noticed a little change..
« on: February 20, 2007, 10:07:15 AM »
Strikethrough.  ;D

Laughing emoticon.  :'(

Could we get the laughing emoticon back?

The Lounge / Re: Cars
« on: February 20, 2007, 09:57:42 AM »
How cold does it get in the winter there?

Surprisingly not as cold as I thought it would've been. Hobart's temperatures

Rick James lives in Canberra which is surprisingly colder, I'm assuming this is because Canberra's built in a higher altitude than Hobart. Canberra's temperatures

Back to the topic, here's the car I want to drive:

I would be the coolest.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Cloning Jesus from stale bread
« on: February 20, 2007, 09:49:34 AM »
Thrush is a yeast infection. Girls can get it when they're on their rags and it can also be sexually transmitted. It's possible to play "tennis" with thrush where you can keep passing it back and forth to each other if you're not careful... so I've heard.

Yeah, what counts as a suitable answer for you? Give us an example.

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: ok, this site is a joke guys....relax
« on: February 20, 2007, 09:45:11 AM »

How dare you disregard my beliefs as a joke!!!

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Cloning Jesus from stale bread
« on: February 20, 2007, 09:38:00 AM »
Hmmm... thrush.

Can you make vegemite from thrush?

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Australia doesn't exist
« on: February 20, 2007, 09:29:33 AM »
Go hogs!!! Okay, that looks like hogs but it's supposed to be "hoags"

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Cloning Jesus from stale bread
« on: February 20, 2007, 09:13:39 AM »
I think in a hybrid's judgement day the four horsemen would be different for starters. You'd probably end up having White, Brown, Wholemeal and Five Grain. I think I could devour any of them.

I can't look up something that doesn't exist.

I have answered, you just don't like my answers so you do your best to ignore them.

How can I post a photo without you claiming it was eidited??? That's been the whole problem all the other times - I post unedited photos and people claim that they are faked.

As Newton pointed out I lack intelligence so why do you think that I'd be able to edit photos?

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Thickness of a flat earth?
« on: February 20, 2007, 09:08:03 AM »
What is the thickness of the Earth? If the Earth is indeed flat, how many miles between the surface and the underside of the disk? (I use that term because it's been said that the people here believe the earth is circular in shape.)

It is unknown. The Russians did try to drill to the other side of the earth at one point and managed to get 12,262 metres down before they gave up.

Second. What happens when people are drilling for oil? Is it possible to drill down so far that you poke a hole out the other side of the flat earth?

I'm not too sure what happens when people are drilling for oil, I've never actually researched it.

For the other part of your question, I doubt it's possible. I don't think that anybody would drill for oil further down than 12,262 metres and even then before they got through to the other side they would have to compete with the molten core of the earth.

Third. Where does volcanic material come from? In the round earth "theory", underneath the crust are layers of molten rock and metal. If the earth is a flat surface, where does this molten substance come from?

From underneath the crust. I speculate that the earth is shaped liked an upside down raindrop (proper rain drop and not a cartoon one - so it's kinda like a dome). We live on the flat part of the earth and within the "dome" is the molten middle.

Fourth. It was stated that one theory about gravity is that the earth is moving upwards at a steady rate, causing everything to be stuck to the top surface and not fly off. Where does this acceleration come from? Is the earth pulled by an even greater gravitational force toward a larger body? Also, how does it happen that the sun and moon are pulled along at the same velocity as the earth? They are not connected to the earth in any way, and if they are indeed hovering above the surface of the disk, they would have to be pulled along at the same speed as the earth to prevent from smashing into the surface, or becoming too far away from the earth. If the sun and moon are being pulled along at the same speed as the earth, why is the gravity weaker on the surface on the moon? (Does the flat earth theory even allow that people walked on the moon?) If the earth is being pulled by an external force, what is it? Is the earth eventually going to crash into it? Is the earth going to go past it, and eventually the gravitational force will be like a slingshot, and the earth will be pulled back the other way so what is the bottom of the earth now will eventually be the top, and the top the bottom? I am interested in how this all works.

There are many discussions about the force behind the earth's acceleartion so do a search.

Can you explain to me the force behind gravity in your magical round earth? Gravity causes matter to move together but what actually causes gravity?

I haven't really found a theory behind the force that I believe. However this doesn't detract from the fact that you can conduct simple experiments that prove the shape of the earth. Do you scientists have worked out everything there is to know in RET?

Fifth. If the earth is flat, how is it possible to circumnavigate the globe? ("globe" being used here because I don't think it's possible to circumnavigate any other shape.) If you got in an airplane with unlimited fuel, and flew in a straight line in any direction, in the round earth theory you would eventually arrive back to the same point. How does that work with the flat earth theory? Could a plane fly off the edge? How come a plane hasn't flown off the edge yet?

Again, do a search. The reason why people give such lame answers is because these questions have been discussed to death.

Sixth. I noticed on one of the maps that the Bering Strait doesn't exist. Russia is connected to North America in the flat earth theory?

No, it was a poor map.

If you send me a donation I will endeavour to start making some accurate maps for you.

Seventh. Why does it matter to the government if people think the earth is flat or round? I don't understand how this could be a conspiracy. Does the government really think that if people knew the earth was flat, something drastic would happen? What is the basis for this conspiracy?

Where o where o where is the search function???

1. I personally don't believe the government is in on the conspiracy. Anything said about the conspiracy is (by its very nature) speculation.

2. It is obvious that there has been some secret, organised effort actively trying to convince people on the earth that the world is round. The conspiracy was born out of the realisation that the world is flat and accounts for things like photos of earth from outer space, "proofs" that the world is flat, incorrect maps, car odometres, propaganda in regards to Antarctica, photos from high flying planes where you can see the curvature of the earth and many other things.

Question #8. If the earth is flat, and the sun and moon are hovering above it at a constant altitude, what accounts for the changes in seasons? In the round earth theory, the earth is tilted on an axis, and as the earth rotates around the sun, different parts of the globe are exposed to varying amounts of sunlight and warmth, creating changes in the weather. What is the flat earth explanation? It's obviously known that the southern hemisphere has the opposite seasons of the northern hemisphere (Winter in the northern hemisphere is summer in the southern, etc.) Where is the "northern" hemisphere and the "southern" hemisphere on a flat earth? It seems to me it would be almost like concentric circles, but then that doesn't make it possible for the seasons to be the opposite for the northern and southern halves.

Okay, read the FAQ before people get pissed off with you.

The sun moves in circles, this is correct. But throughout the year the circles get smaller and larger (the extremities being the tropics). This creates the seasons.

Question #9. How do time zones work on a flat earth?

The sun isn't everywhere at once. Surely you could've worked that out for yourself?

Also, just out of curiosity, do most people who believe in the flat earth theory believe in evolution or creationism?

I believe the earth is flat and I believe in evolution, also I am an atheist (just wanted to clear that up as some people believe in evolution and are relgious).

Please, if anybody replies - I don't want stupid one liners. I don't want facts made up just to support your argument. I don't want links to some guy's book, or to some guy's map. I want logical answers to how all this is possible. I am genuinely confused, and I took the time to type all this out, and I would appreciate some insight. Thanks. :)

Most of your questions only deserved one line posts. The thing that's going to annoy most people is your concentrating on too many things on the one thread. Pick out a nice theme (like the first three questions kinda go together) and stick with it for the thread otherwise you'll get poor responses.

The Lounge / Re: Why is there so little tolerance of "faith" here?
« on: February 20, 2007, 08:47:44 AM »
How is that "intolerant?"  I am simply expressing my views.  Clearly I tolerate religion, because I discuss it with people all the time.  I am happy to invite Mormons around to my house to discuss religion and I take no action to stop people from being allowed to practice their religious beliefs.  I certainly do not disrupt people's religious ceremonies and I certainly do not take any action to force them to alter their beliefs.

Again, the answer is in the "defeat" part. No you don't physically go round disrupting people's ceremonies and so forth but you certainly are actively outspoken against religion. I'm sure when you discuss religion with religious people it's not just a case of let bygons be bygons.

Perhaps you haven't done a good way of portraying yourself on this forum but it comes across as you want religion gone as you see it as a social evil. You may not physically attack religion but you certainly do verbally attack it. You may not try and force them to convert but you certainly could be called an atheist missionary.

Why is it that you do not attack religious people for not tolerating my views by stating that God exists and that we need to take Jesus into our heart to be saved - implying that I am bad person and wrong in my beliefs?  Surely if they are allowed to make such statements, I should equally be allowed to express my view that the only impact religion has on the world is a negative one.

I do "attack" such statements as well. It's not that I don't think they should be allowed to say it but damned if I'm not going to object to someone saying, "The moral decay of our society is a result of people turning away from Jesus."

I'm not trying to supress your opinion, merely stating that in my opinion you are highly intollerant.

This is a view backed up by the work of people like Dr Marc Hauser, Dr Richard Dawkins and Dr Robert Winston - who show that we've evolved to have a predisposition to religion, but that our morality is separate to that religion and religion actually disrupts those moralities.

I'm not arguing with that at all. Though I think you should refrain from quoting Dawkins as you have twisted his words before.

We're not discussing the pros and cons of religion. We're discussing your intollerance of people's belief in God. We're discussing your religious devotion to atheism. We're discussing your hypocrisy.

For example - how many atheists oppose homosexuality?  How many religions do?  Why do religious people feel that they have the right to actually physically force their opinions on to other people?  Why shouldn't we have the right to vocally oppose that?

You're taking the extreme and saying "this is what belief in God means". I oppose anybody who tries to force their opinions onto other people and will vocally oppose it, funnily that's very close to what I'm trying to do with you.

What about all the people who are either religious or believe in God and support homosexuality? I know Catholics that support Gay marriage - you can argue that they aren't proper Catholics if you want but you won't get anywhere with them. People like you don't seem to realise that many religious people today aren't just blind followers and have a sense of morals not based on what the church tells them.

midgard i don't want to hear from you, most of your posts are to anger or mock. Also i do believe i said no conspiracy theorists. please real answers only.

you idiot. If you don't understand the theory, why are you here??? Their theory is based around their BEING a conspiracy... so you CANNOT GET AN ANSWER not from a conspiracy theorist. Why do you disbelieve him when he says he has been there? What proof do you have that he is lying? Are you just mean? MEANIE!

Meanie?? what are you 4?

I know not all fe'ers believe in the conspiracy theory, i've seen it stated by many fe'er posters that they don't believe in the conspiracy theory.  That is the point of this question, to find out what they think. Please, if you have nothing intelligent to say, don't post.

No. you see FEer's posting that they speculate the conspiracy is different from the one postulated in the FAQ. I myself am in this category, I don't believe any government is in on the conspiracy but are actually fooled by it the same as everybody else. Seriously, there is no such thing as a non-conspiracy-theory flat earther, how stupid are you?

Now, I read what you wrote and I am completely serious in my posts. It's not my fault you can't comprehend the truth.

The Lounge / Re: Why is there so little tolerance of "faith" here?
« on: February 20, 2007, 08:17:15 AM »
That's not a source at all.

A source would be some kind of scientific evidence that suggests that what he thinks is the case, is actually the case.

Um... I stated there are people that believe in God purely because they can't "switch" their belief "off". You asked me to provide you with a source. I told you about my friend and you go on a rant.

As he says himself, he can't prove it's the case but despite that he can't not believe. How am I supposed to "scientifically" (you do love that word) provide you with evidence of his beliefs (which is what I'm discussing, not whether the beliefs are correct or not).

The Lounge / Re: Why is there so little tolerance of "faith" here?
« on: February 20, 2007, 08:07:01 AM »
I was going to tell him the same thing. Also included in the article is:

The Communist Party has said that religious belief and membership are incompatible. Party membership is a necessity for many high level careers and posts.

That source you provided to "support" your claim did absolutely nothing for it.

You don't force religious people to be atheists but you certainly do insult them. You practically call them stupid for believing in something you don't.

The fact that you want to "defeat" religion is exactly what I'm talking about. Talking about defeating religion is not tollerant no matter what else you may say.

No I didn't make it up beast. One of my friends (who always did better in school than me and is now a doctor) believes in God. I asked him how he can believe in God when he's so smart and he said that he just couldn't believe there wasn't a God. He doesn't tend to get into debates about it and he'll be the first to admit there's no evidence for it but he still just can't switch of his belief switch. If you find that hard to believe you're dumber than I thought.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Global Warming to sort itself out
« on: February 20, 2007, 07:46:13 AM »
What about a Dannolyte or a Dannostle? Maybe a Danniple?

That was a real answer. If you want I'll post an image of the Ice Wall.

While I still believe that NASA is controlled (or influenced heavily) by a conspiracy I have not seen anybody on the Ice Wall in the three times I've been down there so I don't think the two are connected.

Look, there are experiments you can do that prove the shape of the earth. If these don't convince you then you can travel down to the Ice Wall yourself.

It's obvious that you won't change your opinions from discussions on this forum so why don't you conduct some experiments yourself?

The Lounge / Re: Why is there so little tolerance of "faith" here?
« on: February 20, 2007, 07:40:36 AM »
Gee, I don't know, how about the Chinese government persecuting people for having a religious belief?

More importantly, when I talk about people getting on their high horse I am speaking of people being intollerant of others because they are so convinced they are right. You are a biggot and you think that just because religious people are "wrong" it's okay to be intollerant towards them.

I find it funny because you are anit-homophobic but you are intollerant of religion. Believe it or not there are people out there that cannot believe that God doesn't exist. True this is a product of how they were raised but it's a very strong belief that they can't just change on a whim or by somebody showing them they have no evidence for the belief. To them it's just "natural".

Seriously, how much better off do you think the world would be if people stopped believing in God?

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Zetetic Astronomy and solid surfaces
« on: February 20, 2007, 07:30:11 AM »
I've posted the experiments previously. Try doing a search.

I don't know why I should bother reposting the experiments as it's a lot of bother to do when you're just going to turn around and so you don't believe the results of the experiment.

Plenty of pictures of the Ice Wall have been posted. These are continually discounted as being faked or of Ice Walls in Antarctica and other such places.

I have been to the Ice Wall and taken photos and posted them on this forum only to have people claim that they were fakes.

If you want to see the pictures do a search coz I can't be bothered posting them for the umpteenth time.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Global Warming to sort itself out
« on: February 20, 2007, 07:23:17 AM »
Oh. And i dont think anything EITHER of you post is a waste of time... it warms my heart to see such a tight nit community of fellas... *hugs all around*


When I'm all alone in my parent's basement thinking the whole world is against me at least I can cling to that one positive thought: theonlydann loves me. I will have to conduct myself in such a way that whenever I am faced with a choice I should think, "What would theonlydann do?"

The Lounge / Re: Why is there so little tolerance of "faith" here?
« on: February 20, 2007, 07:20:31 AM »
Give some evidence for those accusations.

Are you trying to claim that you are tolerant towards relgious beliefs??? I'm sorry I always thought you were intollerant of religion and felt you were justified to be so.

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