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Flat Earth General / Re: there is any research about flat earth?

« on: June 21, 2016, 07:35:12 PM »

I think you are confusing them with too much facts here.
If we could just stick to, say, GPS, and how it keeps working without problems once you are out there in the wilderness with no cell-phone signal. (little side note here: the maximum range for a cell phone tower for you to reach would be 20miles AT BEST CONDITIONS... If there was special equipment involved (but regular cell phones are no special equipment) you could have, at best conditions, a range of less than 40 miles)...
But still GPS works in deserts, out there in the middle of the oceans, etc......

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Flat Earth General / Re: Would ISIS take it, or AlQuaida?

« on: June 21, 2016, 07:10:59 PM »

The FEs still flee from conversations once they cannot disprove undeniable evidence? Flee like they used to a few years ago...

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Flat Earth General / Re: GPS | Navigation

« on: June 21, 2016, 04:27:22 AM »

I always wondered how come when travelling offroad my phone loses signal, but GPS works w/o problems... Strange, almost like....magic

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Flat Earth General / Re: Would ISIS take it, or AlQuaida?

« on: June 21, 2016, 04:05:24 AM »

It's all theatre. Gaddafi and Saddam are chilling on a beach somewhere in the Caribean with Elvis while waiting for the Kim Jong family to join, and laughing at the poor citizens of the United States that believe they're at war. Everyone knows being a soldier only means going overseas and have fun with the locals in reality.

Wars are fake, news are fake, noone dies, we're all friends and it's all just a really big Truman show aired in Europe.

Having not been on this forum for ages I cannot figure out if you are being ironic of plain stupid...
If it is the latter, then I suppose 3000 people did not actually die at 9/11 attacks, 49 people did not just die in Orlando, etc... though, I would be very cautious making such statements in front of parents of fallen soldiers and/or civilians.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Would ISIS take it, or AlQuaida?

« on: June 21, 2016, 03:52:34 AM »

When I say "invest in"... to uncover this particular thing, I think an investment of a mere $20.000-30.000 would do the job. It is an insignificant figure for any true and good standing terrorist organization or an individual that has issues with the West.

The world has 7Bil. people, 200 countries, almost infinite number of organizations, the attempt of controlling everybody would financially surpass any desire/reasoning to keep us people believing the earth is round.

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Flat Earth General / Would ISIS take it, or AlQuaida?

« on: June 21, 2016, 03:43:01 AM »

Often people say - how come not a single person has done a real research about this. (research: meaning doing actual scientific work, and not just saying "it looks flat to me"), and the answer here on this forum, for years, was - noone with money is interested.
I reckon if this was the way you people claim it to be, then some of the most notorious enemies of your governments would jump in. ISIS, Alquaida, North Korea, being just some of the countries SO EAGER to dispute such a huge hoax.
Not to mention individuals such as Assange, Snowden... I mean the list goes on, and these are only contemporary "bad guys" today.
I suppose FEs could say that, IE, ISIS doesn't exist and it is a CIA project,
but
HOW ABOUT the ones that clearly had not been? That, oh, were actually killed by the US? Such as Gaddafi, Saddam, etc....
There are just too many enemies of the West that HAVE/HAD money and at least a significant number of them are truly enemies and not some sort of puppets in this RE scheme.

SO HOW COME none of them had not, have not, and will not embarrass the west by investing into uncovering this major scale hoax?

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Flat Earth General / Re: there is any research about flat earth?

« on: June 21, 2016, 03:34:55 AM »

Kinda looks flat from where I'm standing.
..

Well you can get a girl pregnant, and say,  you kinda look like you are not pregnant.
She can give birth to your child, and you can say, it kind of doesn't look like it is mine...

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Flat Earth General / Snowden, wikileaks, etc...

« on: July 03, 2013, 03:03:28 AM »

With the latest developments re. E. Snowden and why not many before him, including the massive ongoing deal with wikileaks, wouldn't there be at least a hint of info uncovered about Earth being flat?
I mean, it the last couple of years activists, spies, organizations etc... have been exposing all sorts of classified information and data. And no mention of this "BIG" cover-up as you FEs try to depict for us.

So, if you can't control everybody and you obviously couldn't have Snowden, Manning, Assange etc under control, how come no SINGLE leak, no single article, no single sentence about FE?
And they indeed leaked a bunch of important and critical stuff...

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA Conspiracy

« on: October 15, 2012, 05:32:04 PM »

The video is replete with lens effects that make it all but worthless as recorded evidence, and which, if taken at face value, contradict what should be observed according to RET.


Now, I ask you: if a video shows curvature of the Earth that is not predicted by either FET or RET, how can it possibly serve as evidence for or against one or the other?

just do the jump...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Curiosity Finds Screw on Mars

« on: October 15, 2012, 05:31:25 PM »

So why are we incapable and unwilling to travel to Mars again?

according to FE, it is just a cover up for spending $$ on secret projects no one ever heard about...

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA Conspiracy

« on: October 15, 2012, 05:21:50 PM »

The whole Red Bull event is a promo stunt, and clearly does not even attempt to make a scientific point. Why RE'ers are holding it up as 'proof' of anything, I don't know.

because it is...
this is a fairly cheap experiment... you FEs could easily raise funds and have some of you do the jump and see for yourselves that the Earth is in fact round

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Flat Earth General / Re: New - Free fall from space record attempt!

« on: October 15, 2012, 05:20:22 PM »

The guy who completed the jump has neglected to mention he saw a flat earth. he must be in on the conspiracy lol

you mean, redbull is also part of conspiracy...?

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Flat Earth General / Re: FET drawing challenge

« on: August 18, 2012, 01:32:17 PM »

Here is an animation detailing the path of the sun takes over the earth-plane:



I think we can all agree this closely matches both observations and data provided.

One day we will understand more about the nature of the celestial bodies and what compels them to move in such a way - as of now we can only trust in God's plan.

So. During summer solstice, it seems that Lake Michigan in the USA gets about 20h of sunlight... Can anyone verify this? 

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS proved to be what it's claimed to be, i.e a Satellite.

« on: August 18, 2012, 12:55:54 PM »

...ENOUGH TO TRACK THE ISS AT THAT MAGNIFICATION

Jeez, if you're going to edit out half a sentence to make it appear like it says something else, don't leave the original unadulterated quote right in there so everyone can see. Basic rule of FEing.

So, are all FEs liars like him?

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Flat Earth General / Re: New High Res Mars Photo.

« on: August 18, 2012, 12:42:11 PM »

here, enjoy:
http://www.360cities.net/image/curiosity-rover-martian-solar-day-2#118.65,12.24,63.8

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS proved to be what it's claimed to be, i.e a Satellite.

« on: August 16, 2012, 07:17:01 AM »

I have twice attempted to view the ISS on days NASA has announced it would be overhead. Neither time did I see anything. I did once see a streak of light that NASA purported to be the space shuttle.

Sell your telescope, raise funds from your fellow FEs and do the high jump like explained in this topic http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,55482.0.html#.UCz3sKnia2Y
. Touchdown, and proclaim FE is bullcrap...

Even if the Earth was round, that device would not take you high enough to see any curvature. Please learn your own theory before trying to dump your inane thoughts on ours.

Of course it would, read all highjumpers' testimonials.

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS proved to be what it's claimed to be, i.e a Satellite.

« on: August 16, 2012, 06:37:30 AM »

I have twice attempted to view the ISS on days NASA has announced it would be overhead. Neither time did I see anything. I did once see a streak of light that NASA purported to be the space shuttle.

Sell your telescope, raise funds from your fellow FEs and do the high jump like explained in this topic http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,55482.0.html#.UCz3sKnia2Y
. Touchdown, and proclaim FE is bullcrap...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Would this convince you?

« on: August 16, 2012, 06:33:06 AM »

No, the OP said do it yourself, not that it was not the intent.  Do try to keep up.

P.S.  I see you have not worked on your reading skills during your time out.

Exactly!
And with so many flatout...sorry, flatearth believers, I suppose they could raise money for their cause and send someone trustworthy to do the jump. Tom Bishop would be my suggestion, with Thork on silver medal for the spot, should TB chicken out...

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS proved to be what it's claimed to be, i.e a Satellite.

« on: August 15, 2012, 03:43:42 PM »

Hmmm. trying to hide the evidence by lying about a picture found from Google trying to run a java-script. God you flatearthers a pathetic.

I've already reported you for posting a link to a malicious site. I can show the antivirus and Firefox NoScript warning to mods if needed. Getting angry about a debate is one thing, trying to disrupt someone else's property and then continuing to do so is simply crossing the line. Please take your script kiddie shenanigans elsewhere.

Your firefox is broken.
I just opened the pic with newest Chrome and Firefox, no such reports...
And it's a mighty fine pic of the ISS.
Case closed.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What is the FEH explanation for lunar eclipses?

« on: August 15, 2012, 03:39:28 PM »

James has been in telepathic contact with the life forms. You can read his posts in the Flat Earth Believer's forum. 

Till James gets back from his Schizophrenia test, prove telepathy?

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS proved to be what it's claimed to be, i.e a Satellite.

« on: August 15, 2012, 03:42:53 AM »

I've seen the "ISS" through my telescope. That you can actually believe its a 227 ton man made object in space is laughable at best. How gullible can you really get?

So you're saying that seeing isn't believing? 

Even at high magnification the ISS looks like a cardboard kite. Saying that small speck is a space station is like pointing at a Chinese lantern and claiming it is an alien ship.

Surely you realize that a speck can weight 227 tons since you are observing it from a great deal of distance?
How about this, try to observe other objects, or cut down magnification and climb a mountain and observe something else close to that weight... Buildings, bridges, etc... Will they be half the size of a speck if you decrease magnification...
Ever thought of that...

In any case, if ISS is up there, no matter if it was cardboard or actual 227 ton ISS, how come it manages to be up there with this FE laws?

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS proved to be what it's claimed to be, i.e a Satellite.

« on: August 14, 2012, 04:24:20 PM »

Oh no, wait, one last try with something called .......
PSEUDO-ISS?!?!
ANTI-ISS???

No? Nevermind.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Why NASA and why space exploration

« on: August 14, 2012, 04:22:49 PM »

space travel is very possible, even the FAQ says its possible.

It wouldn't be so much of a travel since FE claims everything to be in 3000 miles range...

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS proved to be what it's claimed to be, i.e a Satellite.

« on: August 14, 2012, 04:21:09 PM »

Great stuff...
Thork, Tom Bishop, do not dispair, Creationist community will gladly accept you as their followers.
Please close this site and thanks for a good fight.

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Flat Earth General / Re: How old is Earth according to FE?

« on: August 13, 2012, 04:30:08 PM »

how exactly does Geology work under FE conditions?

The shape of the Earth is irrelevant to geology. Perhaps you're thinking of geodesy?

Yes it is, and no I am not thinking geodesy...
Tectonic plates fall in to geology...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Why NASA and why space exploration

« on: August 13, 2012, 04:25:42 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Space_Agency

Iranian Space Agency.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Why NASA and why space exploration

« on: August 13, 2012, 04:23:27 PM »

No, scientists work in NASA, and they are more scientists than believers in any case.
Had they discovered they were wrong (or any other, say, IRANIAN scientists) they all would not keep it secret just to please USA's conspiracy schemes...

Take North Korea for example. A country that more or less ignores the rest of the world. Multiple times their engineers have attempted space travel and all such attempts have failed. Would you honestly believe the Koreans are just too stupid to build a basic rocket? No, of course not. Space travel is a fairy tale and they just don't get it yet. I don't think NASA, JAXA, or any other space agency is in a big hurry to tell them, either.

 North Korea announced on 31 August 1998 that they successfully launched Kwangmyŏngsŏng-1 from Musudan-ri.

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Flat Earth General / Re: How old is Earth according to FE?

« on: August 13, 2012, 12:17:35 PM »

FET generally accepts the consensus of the universe's age based on the expansion and background radiation of the universe. Which is to say, approximately 14.56 billion years. We also accept the general consensus of the Earth's age based on geological data and various other studies which is approximately 4.54 billion years.

FET being related to religion is actually a myth created by RET to make FET look less plausible. In actuality, mainstream religion (such as the Catholic Church) has always accepted the idea of RET.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo,
how exactly does Geology work under FE conditions?
Oh, and is Earth the center of the universe according FE?

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Flat Earth General / Re: When did the conspiracy start?

« on: August 13, 2012, 11:58:13 AM »

FE is a scientific fact.

Really? Based on what research and what evidence?

Based on my personal research, which I have posted on TFES. Also ENaG by Rowbotham.
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OK links?

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Flat Earth General / Re: How old is Earth according to FE?

« on: August 13, 2012, 11:50:21 AM »

it's 10.000, not if you are a christian, but a creationist... big difference.
so, there isn't a unanimous stand on earth's age by FEs?