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The Lounge / Re: Prostate Massage
« on: February 10, 2009, 12:54:03 AM »
But seriously. Has anyone tried it or thought about it before. Or am I the only one?
Do you use a butt plug?

I currently use a device that goes up my bum. It is specially designed to contact the prostate. It is just plastic, no bells or whistles that need batteries. If you use a lot of slippery stuff (like your supposed to) it causes no discomfort whatsoever. I used to just use my middle finger. But my finger isn't long enough to get a good crack at it.


Careful, you're on that slippery slope leading to declawed gerbils.

The bum is a part of the colon which absorbs things through it's membrane. It wouldn't be sanitary. I could get strange diseases. Out of the question. I don't think hamsters are any better.

Want a real good time? Substitute peyote in place of your plastic device...

Nevermind what goes in whos' ass, where are you getting peyote?

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The Lounge / Re: Prostate Massage
« on: February 09, 2009, 08:53:07 PM »
But seriously. Has anyone tried it or thought about it before. Or am I the only one?
Do you use a butt plug?

I currently use a device that goes up my bum. It is specially designed to contact the prostate. It is just plastic, no bells or whistles that need batteries. If you use a lot of slippery stuff (like your supposed to) it causes no discomfort whatsoever. I used to just use my middle finger. But my finger isn't long enough to get a good crack at it.


Careful, you're on that slippery slope leading to declawed gerbils.

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The Lounge / Re: War Crimes
« on: February 09, 2009, 08:24:17 PM »
No gusto for sure.

Unfortunately, The Who's "Don't get fooled again" does yet apply.

Todays' ruling is especially dischordant as President Obama reitterates that, "No one is above the law", during his 1st Press Conferance.

This "state secrets" privilege essentially renders all  obligations under Law moot by effectively halting any and all relevent cases from being heard.

And yet, AG Holder indicates that DoJ will will fully investigate all cases wherein this privilege is being invoked.

It seems as their strategy may be that of "playing both sides against the middle".


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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 08, 2009, 05:29:50 PM »
I'm also an excellent shot. So, I don't own or carry fire arms.

However; I fully support the right to arm bears.
 

But what happens when they start burning our women and raping our churches?

Kill 'em and grill 'em, like uncle Ted sez. Mmmmmm.... tasty bear burgers, yum!

I prefer the less strong taste of deer, and increased bears with guns will mean less deer. This situation sucks.

I agree on the taste factor, but, those bears may prefer moose or elk and will also likely cull many of the human hunters too and "voila": more venison for us again. I love the "balance" of nature.

Where I live their only food source is really deer. And if they kill the hunter i get venison from i'm screwed.

In that case; form a neutral allienc with both sides to keep the Bambi steaks coming. I'm envious of your supply  either way as the only local game are bighorn and I think they are protected as a State critter.

Oh well, gotta go. 

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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 08, 2009, 04:46:54 PM »
I'm also an excellent shot. So, I don't own or carry fire arms.

However; I fully support the right to arm bears.
 

But what happens when they start burning our women and raping our churches?

Kill 'em and grill 'em, like uncle Ted sez. Mmmmmm.... tasty bear burgers, yum!

I prefer the less strong taste of deer, and increased bears with guns will mean less deer. This situation sucks.

I agree on the taste factor, but, those bears may prefer moose or elk and will also likely cull many of the human hunters too and "voila": more venison for us again. I love the "balance" of nature.

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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 08, 2009, 04:35:20 PM »
I'm also an excellent shot. So, I don't own or carry fire arms.

However; I fully support the right to arm bears.
 

But what happens when they start burning our women and raping our churches?

Kill 'em and grill 'em, like uncle Ted sez. Mmmmmm.... tasty bear burgers, yum!

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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 08, 2009, 04:31:06 PM »
I'm also an excellent shot. So, I don't own or carry fire arms.

However; I fully support the right to arm bears.
 

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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 08, 2009, 04:15:41 PM »
Fighting above your weight class is allowed. And breaking someones knee who leads with a huge reach in punch is hardly a fair fight. He is way too dependent on his size.

Yeah. I was being snarky on that point.

You can't represent an entire division of people by the way people who don't know how to fight fight.

Good catch. I should have qualified with "In my experience, most big guys, etc", as I have seen some who are very savvy.

BTW: lest y'all think otherwise, I am generally a pacifist and will always seek an amenable solution to any tense situation, unless and until provoked beyond the bounds of diplomacy by the other party.

Also, I felt remorseful then and now. Both parties were drunk and I reacted on instinct way too fast to deliver a less nasty blow. For all I know, he may have been crippled for Life. :'(

On a positive note:That incident did help me swear off of tequila and being a Marine.

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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 08, 2009, 03:28:19 PM »
If size truthfully didn't matter, boxers wouldn't have weight classes, neither would wrestlers. Size is a pretty relevant factor in any fight, because it gives one guy a lot more strength.
Right, because they can put more force behind their punch.

Thank you John Madden.
lawl

In this context, Strength is a power to mass ratio modified by relative velocity, momentum and torque to which efficacy is mostly governed by application and accuracy of placement.

In context of a "street fight":
A single straight punch to the face may break your nose, while a rear spinning, ulnar-side, hammer blow to the body can put a floating rib into a lung or burst a kidney. 

In my posted example: he stepped foreward to swing at me with his fist whilest I merely leaned obliquely back and away, transferring momentum from torso to leg and delivered compund force via my foot directly to his already over-strssed knee.
His attempted blow missed me by at least a 2' margin and I was already completely out of the way as he came crashing down under his own weight and momentum. 

So; while very personal, this was not a "foul" and really had little to do with the NFL. ;)

Ain't practically applied physics grand?  8)

BTW: Should I be "officially" sanctioned for fighting above my weight-class? ;D

 

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: hurricanes
« on: February 08, 2009, 02:22:12 PM »
Actually the Carib Storm-God Hu ru kan creates these satellite versions of his swirling wrath to wreak havoc upon we mere mortals.

All contrary argument is therefore moot. So, get wet and get bent!

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The Lounge / Re: Day Fines
« on: February 08, 2009, 02:09:29 PM »
An equally fair Fine is just fine if it's fairly funny. :P

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Steve's music
« on: February 08, 2009, 02:00:55 PM »
Hey, Steve,

As a "latin" hybrid myself and an appreciater of the Sonic Arts, that Piece seemed pretty good. 

Unfortunately, my Muses only feed me Art of a visual nature.

My only request, as a fellow perfectionist, is to keep at it.

And always remember, "Jazz is not dead; It just smells funny."

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The Lounge / Re: Day Fines
« on: February 08, 2009, 01:18:21 PM »
Speeding is a violation of a civil privilege (use of public access) and only criminal if mitigated.  

I say Fine the shit out of the asshole in the ZoomCar going twice the posted limit and pay the guy in the Yugo for even attaining it. ;D

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The Lounge / Re: Day Fines
« on: February 08, 2009, 01:03:26 PM »
First, speeding is usaully a Civil offense rather than Criminal one.

It sounds like they are using a simple flat % rate or a Time = Money factor to determine the amount of fine.

Either way, it's an attempt to level the playing field by leveling the paying field.

Here in sinCity, all fines are now astronomical based on garnering a max amount to pay off the construction loans on the shiny new Court building. Ah..... Progress,

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Evolution and Religion
« on: February 08, 2009, 12:41:08 PM »
That vid goes from the absurd to the sublime.

This proves beyond a shadow of doubt that Art is the fastest evolving form of Life and the only Truth worth pursuing religiously.

Wine, I say; Wine,.... wine and Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeese, Please.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Omnipotence: Possible?
« on: February 08, 2009, 06:22:40 AM »
Woo Kingman learnt something!

Halle-fuckin-lujah!!! ;D

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The Lounge / Re: War Crimes
« on: February 08, 2009, 06:17:10 AM »
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[I've only been asking that for like three pages now. ::)

Hey, Kids. Here's a big chunk to chew on.

A/RES/39/46 10 December 1984 Meeting no. 93 Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment

Article 13 Each State Party shall ensure that any individual who alleges he has been subjected to torture in any territory under its jurisdiction has the right to complain to, and to have his case promptly and impartially examined by, its competent authorities. Steps shall be taken to ensure that the complainant and witnesses are protected against all ill-treatment or intimidation as a consequence of his complaint or any evidence given.

Article 16 1. Each State Party shall undertake to prevent in any territory under its jurisdiction other acts of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment which do not amount to torture as defined in article 1, when such acts are committed by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. In particular, the obligations contained in articles 10, 11, 12 and 13 shall apply with the substitution for references to torture of references to other forms of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

However;
I. The Senate's advice and consent is subject to the following reservations:
(1) That the United States considers itself bound by the obligation under article 16 to prevent `cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment', only insofar as the term `cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment' means the cruel, unusual and inhumane treatment or punishment prohibited by the Fifth, Eighth, and/or Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.

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But does waterboarding constitute "severe" suffering? It doesn't matter why they did it, or even what they did, if it doesn't meet that criteria first.

Severe: Causing great discomfort, damage, or distress.
Cruel: willfully or knowingly causing pain or distress to others. causing or marked by great pain or distress
Inhumane: lacking and reflecting lack of pity or compassion
Degrading: to lower in dignity or estimation. to reduce (someone) to a lower rank, degree, etc.; deprive of office, rank, status, or title. To lower in moral or intellectual character; debase.
Debase. To reduce from a higher to a lower state or grade of worth, dignity, purity, station, etc. to humiliate or shame, as by injury to one's pride or self-respect.
Humiliate: to cause (a person) a painful loss of pride, self-respect, or dignity; mortify.

Status: the standing of a person before the law.
Station: the position, as of persons or things, in a scale of estimation, rank, or dignity; standing.

Thus; by all accounts, every technique used at Abu Graib and Gitmo would seem to fall under at least one of these definitions and would seem meet the criteria under any Article or Amendment.

Also;

FM 34-52 (U.S.. Army Field Manual0
HEADQUARTERS
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
Washington, DC, 8 May 1987

PROHIBITION AGAINST USE OF FORCE
The use of force, mental torture, threats, insults, or exposure to unpleasant and inhumane treatment of any kind is prohibited by law and is neither authorized nor. condoned by the US Government. Experience indicates that the use of force is not necessary to gain the cooperation of sources for interrogation. Therefore, the use of force is a poor technique, as it yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say whatever he thinks the interrogator wants to hear. However, the use of force is not to be confused with psychological ploys, verbal trickery, or other nonviolent and noncoercive ruses used by the interrogator in questioning hesitant or uncooperative sources.
The psychological techniques and principles outlined should neither be confused with, nor construed to be synonymous with, unauthorized techniques such as brainwashing, mental torture, or any other form of mental coercion to include drugs. These techniques and principles are intended to serve as guides in obtaining the willing cooperation of a source. The absence of threats in interrogation is intentional, as their enforcement and use normally constitute violations of international law and may result in prosecution under the UCMJ.

Seems clear enough along with this:

The United States Supreme Court ruled in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld ( 000 U.S. 05-184 ) that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions applied to the War on Terrorism.

War Crimes Act of 1996 TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 118 > ? 2441
? 2441. War crimes

(a) Offense.? Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.
(b) Circumstances.? The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).
(c) Definition.? As used in this section the term ?war crime? means any conduct?
(3) which constitutes a grave breach of common Article 3 (as defined in subsection (d)) when committed in the context of and in association with an armed conflict not of an international character.
(d) Common Article 3 Violations.?
(1) Prohibited conduct.? In subsection (c)(3), the term ?grave breach of common Article 3? means any conduct (such conduct constituting a grave breach of common Article 3 of the international conventions done at Geneva August 12, 1949), as follows:
(A) Torture.? The act of a person who commits, or conspires or attempts to commit, an act specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control for the purpose of obtaining information or a confession, punishment, intimidation, coercion, or any reason based on discrimination of any kind.
(B) Cruel or inhuman treatment.? The act of a person who commits, or conspires or attempts to commit, an act intended to inflict severe or serious physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions), including serious physical abuse, upon another within his custody or control.

And This:
TITLE X--MATTERS RELATING TO DETAINEES
SEC. 1001. SHORT TITLE.

This title may be cited as the `Detainee Treatment Act of 2005'.
SEC. 1002. UNIFORM STANDARDS FOR THE INTERROGATION OF PERSONS UNDER THE DETENTION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

(a) In General- No person in the custody or under the effective control of the Department of Defense or under detention in a Department of Defense facility shall be subject to any treatment or technique of interrogation not authorized by and listed in the United States Army Field Manual on Intelligence Interrogation.

SEC. 1003. PROHIBITION ON CRUEL, INHUMAN, OR DEGRADING TREATMENT OR PUNISHMENT OF PERSONS UNDER CUSTODY OR CONTROL OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

(a) In General- No individual in the custody or under the physical control of the United States Government, regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment.

SEC. 1004. PROTECTION OF UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL ENGAGED IN AUTHORIZED INTERROGATIONS

Good faith reliance on advice of counsel should be an important factor, among others, to consider in assessing whether a person of ordinary sense and understanding would have known the practices to be unlawful.


This ?a person of ordinary sense and understanding? is the wording upon which everything should ultimately hinge. This could be used as the main thrust in prosecuting any and all  persons who either authorized or engaged in any and all enhanced interrogation techniques.

So, logically, in their defense, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al must each make claim of ?legal status? either as ?a person of ordinary sense and understanding? or as ?a person of non-ordinary sense and understanding? , fully aware of  the spirit and the letter of both US Law and Geneva Conventions and therefore; knowingly in clear violation of both in providing any ?authorization? of  ?legal validity? . 

Or they must claim ?legal status? either as ?a person of ordinary sense and non-understanding? or as ?a person of non-ordinary sense and non-understanding? , fully or partially ignorant of either US Law or Geneva Conventions or both, who relied solely upon Legal Council, who themselves must likewise make the same claim to the same either/ or ?legal status?.

Simply put; each is either a knowing violator of the Law or each is an ignorant violator of the Law.

Whatever combination of possible claims of ?legal status? which any or all may choose to be recognized as, there is not any single claim of ?legal status? which places any of these persons in a position which is above or beyond either set of Laws, as each and all of these laws within both sets are also predicated upon this very concept of  ?ordinary sense and understanding?

ordinary  (adj.)

c.1460, "belonging to the usual order or course," from O.Fr. ordinarie, from L. ordinarius "customary, regular, usual, orderly," from ordo (gen. ordinis) "order" (see order).
That which is so common, or continued, as to be considered a settled establishment or institution.

The only wiggle here will be on what the courts "deem" to constitute a legal definition.

Of course, that could end up being something none of us might ever recognize. :'(







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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Time
« on: February 06, 2009, 11:30:25 PM »

[/quote]Also, a second is defined by the amountof time it takes for an elements atom to vibrate like 113 times. We as humans need to define these things.
[/quote]

Actually, a second seems to be equal to one "beat" of an average human heart.

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Deuteronomy 23:1-2 (KJV)

1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

The moral lesson is that; Yahweh has a problem with damaged male genetalia and children born out of wedlock. So; don't be a bastard and kick a guy in the groin.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Athiest World
« on: February 06, 2009, 11:09:52 PM »
Obviously no one is always good, humans are inherently evil in my opinion.  But if you are atheist, you can still have morals.

Based upon my experience; I disagree with your opinion, and fully support your statement.

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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 06, 2009, 11:00:49 PM »
 There is a "Quote" button.
[/quote]

Hey, I can't be a genious all of the time.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Athiest World
« on: February 06, 2009, 10:43:44 PM »
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I'm sure all of us know many Atheists who are much more kind and caring than another "Christian" we know of.  


Isaac Asimov vs Tomas de Torquemada is an excellent example.

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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 06, 2009, 10:33:24 PM »
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If I was trying to be mean

That's why I didn'y bite.

Hey, I think I'm a li'l off topic; my tale is more of a personal foul on the NFL. (Ok, so the guy was claiming to play college ball. close enough for that govt cheese.)

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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 06, 2009, 10:17:02 PM »
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I know. I was just screwing around with him.

Unfortunately, that's how the aforementioned "incident" started.

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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 06, 2009, 10:08:00 PM »
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DAMN your tiny.


I don't have a tiny; so you'll have to damn your own.


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The Lounge / Re: Worst personal foul of the NFL season?
« on: February 06, 2009, 09:44:59 PM »
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Hell... i bet the Lions could smoke any rugby team in a street fight.
Dann,

In an actual street fight; most big guys are generally easier to take out, due to their over-reliance on being 'intimidating".

You'd be amazed at how high-piched the scream is when a well placed side-kick "backwards" the guys lead knee.

Oops, there goes that promising career.

FYI; I'm only 5' 3" and under 140 lbs and yes: I warned this fool that; I would be forced to defend myself if he insisted on attempted battery. 

Real-world violence is not pretty.

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The Lounge / Re: War Crimes
« on: February 06, 2009, 09:14:50 PM »
OK.

One more fucking time for those who either didn't read this or did and somehow failed to apprehend or comprehend;

Definition of torture
Article 1 of the Convention defines torture as:
Any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.
? Convention Against Torture, Article 1.1
Actions which fall short of torture may still constitute cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment under Article 16

Ban on torture and cruel and degrading treatment
Article 2 of the convention prohibits torture, and requires parties to take effective measures to prevent it in any territory under its jurisdiction. This prohibition is absolute and non-derogable. "No exceptional circumstances whatsoever may be invoked to justify torture, including war, threat of war, internal political instability, public emergency, terrorist acts, violent crime, or any form of armed conflict. Torture cannot be justified as a means to protect public safety or prevent emergencies. Neither can it be justified by orders from superior officers or public officials. The prohibition on torture applies to all territories under a party's effective jurisdiction, and protects all people under its effective control, regardless of citizenship or how that control is exercised. Since the Conventions entry into force, this absolute prohibition has become accepted as a principle of customary international law.
Because it is often difficult to distinguish between cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment and torture, the Committee regards Article 16's prohibition of such treatment as similarly absolute and non-derogable.
The other articles of part I lay out specific obligations intended to implement this absolute prohibition by preventing, investigating and punishing acts of torture.

Ban on refoulement
Article 3 prohibits parties from returning, extraditing or refouling any person to a state "where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture". The Committee against Torture has held that this danger must be assessed not just for the initial receiving state, but also to states to which the person may be subsequently expelled, returned or extradited.

Is this not defined clearly enough for all of you chicken-hawks who are trying to split hairs on what is torture and what isn't? It's all Illegal!!

So; The US, under the Bush Admin, has clearly violated International Law (to which we are signitors)and any of the personal "lay" opinions mounted as contrary argument here are totally moot and completely fucking irrelevant.

The current US Admin has clearly stated that we have engaged in torture. The only question left here is; will we now uphold our obligations, conduct the necessary investigations and prosecute trials as are indicated to hold those responsible to account.

Btw; the failure to keep adequate record of the "detainees" at Gitmo also constitutes a violation of Law.

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The Lounge / Re: War Crimes
« on: February 06, 2009, 03:08:25 PM »
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In the wild it's called natural selection.


Most policy is set by urban dwelling folk. Are you suggesting that we are actually wild beasts with only delusions of humanity?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Is Healthcare a right or a priviledge?
« on: February 06, 2009, 03:04:26 PM »
Proleg; 
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The Jewnited States of Amerikkka" would be better.

Are you an actual racist or is it merely affect for effect?

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The Lounge / Re: War Crimes
« on: February 06, 2009, 02:57:27 PM »
I happened to recently view Spielbergs "Into the West" and mostly felt digust and embarassment at the whole Manifest Destiny ideology which still colors US policies, both domestic and foreign.

Btw; I am a complex hybrid, both genetic and ethnic. My ancestors obviously got along quite well together (mostly).

Yes , I agree that we need to "get over It"; but, not by "glossing over It".

The US is still operating under the current version of Manifest Destiny ala the Bush Doctrine.

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