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That argument is valid. We will leave it at rest becuase its time to talk about another proof of a flat earth.  Lets think of the "round earth" in space.  How does the earth continue to fly through space without stopping
Space is not a vaccum as we know it contains Gas and different elements, including objects such as asteroids and comets.  How would the earth be able to maintain a constant speed without slowing down because there is nothing that we know about in the universe that can maintain a certain speed in the face of friction. What is pushing the earth? I bet you are going to tell me its Atlas.

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No my point is not mute. The earth is flat so my point is VERY VALID.  The fact that the more mass something has the more gravity force it presents simmilar to why the Sun has intense gravity. THE sun is all gas as my example of the comets and asteroids breaking up in the atmosphere of the earth it All contributes to the overall mass of the planet, YOU have not shown why it cannot be true

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YOU WILL ALWAYS GET HALF WAY THERE NEVER THE FULL WAY

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I think it is clear that the facts that you need to say with all accuracy that the material that enters the atmosphere does not effect the gravitational pull are not present, Nor have you stated why my theroy is false, really the only thing that you have said is you dont think the mass of the forign bodies will affect the World in which we live. Phisics and science would dictate that there is SOME effect and I am simply pointing out is why havent we even been able to measure the change on the most sensitive of all scientific devices.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof for a flat earth is all around us
« on: December 04, 2005, 10:11:51 PM »
Believe, no matter what you say about the earth being flat they will try to throw down your facts. U and I know that the Earth is flat, and you are not alone my brother.  As the famous philosopher Rene Descartes put it
"I think therefore I am"  Use your mind not the textbook

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Well, I think it is fare to say that we dont have all the facts that are nessisary to come up with a valid conclusion. I am simply stating one of the many ways in which the earth could not possibly be a sphere.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof for a flat earth is all around us
« on: December 04, 2005, 02:59:41 PM »
You Sir are correct and wise in your thinking.  The truth is there is NO direct proof for a round earth but there is for a flat one. Round earthers read their textbooks and then say with all certanty that they are correct. Your eyes dont lie, not with something this important

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Even if they "burn up" they are still part of the planet just in a gas state, what im asying is all the fine particals will effect the planet in some way due to their mass together

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Some comets and asteroids from space ar the size of golf balls and they could be smaller as well even the shabe of sand, but the constant bombardment of matter into the planet should effect it in some way, what im saying is I have not noticed any change in my day to day life.

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No, I believe that I am correct. I ask you how do you know the weight of the earth? How do you know the effect constant bombardment of mass to our planet effects it in the way you are sasying

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I have explained several times on this forum how the idea of gravity cannot possibly work.  I will give the example of how you round Earthers believe that the more mass an object has the greater its gravitational index/force. If we were to believe this as true, then how come when the Earth is bombarded by comets and asteroids and its weight is increased by tons upon tons everyday it is not harder for use to move on this "planet". Why after millions of years are we still able to move?  How is it possible that every year human beings are breaking records in sports, running faster, jumping higher?  That should be proof enough that the Earth is not round.  dont say becuase of advances in training. This may help becasue since the earth has no gravity we are able to advance on an equal plane.  TELL ME HOW THIS COULD NOT BE CORRECT

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Flat Earth Q&A / Mountain of evidence
« on: December 01, 2005, 12:48:49 AM »
Why are there time zones? Because they are man made and created by man.
Why is it that some areas experience night time while some experience day time?  This is due to atmospheric conditions
Why is it that as you move away from a tall structure its top disappears first? Because it is due to atmospheric conditions
Why is it that when you look out into the ocean the horizon appears curved?It doesent to me this could be due to the fact that light refracts under certain conditions.
The reason that the earth appears flat when you look at only a small area is because the earth is so large that the curve in a small area is negligible. If you look at a large area, like the ocean, or if you look out from a tall structure or aircraft, the curve is obvious. ? This can be explaned by the above
Why is it not possible to see the Washington Monument from the top of the Empire State Building with binoculars? Particles in the air similar to how you cant see 100 feet on a fogy day
I see satellites up in the sky at night. How would they be able to orbit a flat Earth? How do you know they are satalites

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Flat Earth Q&A / It's so sad, but I dare you to show some evidence
« on: November 30, 2005, 01:42:22 PM »
I myself am a scientific man. I require evidence as you do for believing something.  I can t take at face value the fact that the earth is round when I have never seen it for myself. I can explane how a round earth can't possibly have a stable sea. Think of a "round earth" that has water on it, according to you since it is round then it has to be in the shape of a sphere. It is a common known fact that a sphere has a curve. Wouldent it make sense to say that if the earth is a curve that the water would be on a curve as well.  So why when there is a wind gust doesent the water start moving on that curve and splash everywhere because according to you there is gravity on the earth and wouldent that force the water to move around the curve and never stop, wouldent there be water everywhere?  Also acording to the theroy of gravety the more mass something has the more gravety there is, I have said this before if we believe the earth is round, then we assume things from space impact the earth wouldent all the mass for the metiors and commets make the gravity incress? Why isent it harder for me to move

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Flat Earth Q&A / It's so sad, but I dare you to show some evidence
« on: November 30, 2005, 11:12:16 AM »
I guess I would have to ask you have you been to the top of Mt. Everest and seen what you discribe?  Have you been to space and seen the earth in its true form? Have you only looked at pictures and television, if so then pictures can be changed, video can be edited, people can lie.  Dont all astronauts have atleaset there bachelors degree? If they do then they have been to a school, they teach about space in school, if you were to be decieved then a school would be the best place as we assume all information in school has at least some backing in fact. Let me tell you that the schools and the teachers in them are teaching a lie. They dont know that they are teaching a lie however they believe it, the lie is self taught and self perpetuating. The real truth lies in the fact that all known science can be better taught using the existance of a flat earth than a round one. From Gravity to the earth looking flat to the sea level staying at the same level. none of these things can be explaned with any consistancy useing the round earth model.  Please look into the distance and you will notice that it looks flat, look to a textbook and it says it is round. What do you believe a lie in a book or your eyes? ask yourself that and ponder.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 23, 2005, 12:43:12 PM »
The earth is flat proof lies in the fact that It seems flat if you look at it, I explaned how gravity works and you seemed to reject it for some reson, I assume its becuase you read books and think that they are correct when if you look at my example you will see why I am right. Go back to school and critically analize the facts and you will see that I am correct

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 22, 2005, 07:23:58 PM »
I will defend the flat earth untill the day I die because it is so. I know its falt and I have proved it you have been led on by a lie

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 22, 2005, 09:13:50 AM »
Can you please stop posting that

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 21, 2005, 10:23:17 PM »
All im saying is that the theory of gravity is just that a theroy,  Im not saying you are wrong just that You and I come from different prespectives.  I enjoy the debate that we have and I do understand what you are saying.

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May he rest in peace

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 21, 2005, 05:24:55 PM »
One thing that you have succeded in doing is demonstrating your ability to place facts on this forum that dont have any relation to the real world.  I have showed you how gravity works and you have showed me how you believe gravity works. I am telling you, that you can test me theory in the real world. With your theory we have to rely on facts and figures from the minds of other people and assumptions about the shape of our planet. I am telling you that with my theory you can test it everyday. Go to your local elevator and press the top floor. When it is in motion jump. You will find that the elivator will meet you. That is a simple way to test my theroy. To test your theory we would have to go to "space" and look down on the so called "round planet" and conduct tests by throwing different objects into the atmosphere and see if they fall to the planet. Everything from shoes to pianos to cars would have to be sent towards the planet. After testing your theory on a vast number of objects one would have to draft a complex algorithm on why gravity works. What is simpler, a theory that can be demonstrated with your local elevator or something that would take hundreds of billions of dollers to complete and be conducted by a select few. You tell me what one makes the most sense

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 20, 2005, 09:12:22 PM »
Squato, please try to stop fooling this forum with your fuzzy facts that dont add up to squat.  I showed you that the theroy of gravity could not work and I backed up my claim.  You presented a very complex soloution to the idea of gravity and I showed you a simple one that was true.  Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor. You have 2 solutions to the problem and the simpler on is the correct on according to the Rasor.  What is more believable, your complex blable or my simple explanation that can be backed up well.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Gravity, and how it works.
« on: November 19, 2005, 11:30:25 PM »
That looks very simmilar as to what would happen if the earth would be rising, and we were being forced down

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 19, 2005, 11:28:12 PM »
In all your explanations you have failed to convince me the earth is round. You make a claim and I counter it successfully

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 19, 2005, 07:44:58 PM »
I enjoy the challange of a good argument as well.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 18, 2005, 10:30:50 PM »
I can understand your reasons for thinking your diagram is accurate but in all reallity it is not.  We as of yet dont fully understand the way gravity works. It is not fully understood. So you have made alot of assumptions when you drew those diagrams. I will explane to you how I believe gravity works.  On the flat earth, the earth is flying upwards, and so that is why gravity exists. As the earth goes upwards we are being forced to the ground simmilar to if you jump in an elevator.  Your diagram assumes the earth is round and is not being affected by many things. For example. According to the theory of a round earth. The bigger an object is the more the force of gravity acts on it. I would like to say that that theroy canot be true for the very reason as we have many new objects on the planet. Ice from comets and rock from meteorites. If the bigger an object is the more gravity effects it wouldn't it be fare to say that gravity should be increasing. If the planet is getting larger due to forign bodies from space landing on it, wouldn't this in turn increase the force of gravity. How are we still able to walk around and move. It seems to me that it should be harder to move every day due to this.  It seems that athletes are able to run faster and jump higher. This doesent make sense under your theory.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 18, 2005, 09:18:54 AM »
I would have to say that I am not able to make out your fuzzy diagram.  It is very simple how this works. If your throw a rock into a puddle or pool which is flat you will notice that the shockwaves travel in a fasion that can be altered by objects in its path. Simmilar to that of a flat earth.  Like I said before if the Earth was a sphere then water would run in a continuing motion if there was an earthquake. Think of it this way what happens if you pour water on a beach ball. The water goes off the sides becuase it is a slant and it moves off the slant fast. If the earth really was round at the first earthquake the planet would be a disaster.   Just another thing for you to think about. And how would you explane that

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 17, 2005, 09:43:35 PM »
Im not sure what your point is. The fact that I believe the earth is flat or your nonsense remarks

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 17, 2005, 12:27:38 PM »
I dont understand

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 17, 2005, 12:49:05 AM »
Well, I do infact believe the earth is flat. My background is that of Biology I would like to say that I do understand your argument that you believe the Earth is round.  You have absolutely no way to know 100 precent becuse you have not seen it. You have only seen pictures and video, which clearly have been doctored. Go outside on a clear day and look into the distance and you will see a flat earth, why you ask? becuase it is so. You have been conditioned since you were born to believe the Earth is round and been taught the self perpetuating lie since you were a child. Why, I dont know. For many many thousand years the earth was thought to be flat and as soon as modern technology comes into play the earth is suddenly round. Very convenient.  Please try to understand the argument for a flat earth. I know you think we are all stupid, but Im the one who needs to see with my own eyes to believe.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat
« on: November 16, 2005, 06:18:11 AM »
Ice can be created under pressure

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