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Flat Earth General / Re: Conspiracy motivation
« on: January 20, 2011, 04:05:38 PM »
Ah well, I'm not privy to any of their back room activities history.

Are you implying that we've secretly had this technology since before the moon landing that you claim didn't happen?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: A universal problem with UA
« on: January 20, 2011, 04:00:20 PM »
And if gravity doesn't exist, what keeps the moon shrimp on the moon?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Zetetics-Happier People?
« on: January 19, 2011, 06:51:27 PM »
no problem. also the RE'ers here are so sarcastic. unlike ESA's like me and other types of zetetics (such as Flat Earthers) the RE'ers here seem so bitter and angry. Also one can see them in hte news. i only wonder if someone who was brought up to think like a zetetic would be happier as i am now.

First off all, you are generalizing 99.99999% of the population. Second, sarcasm when arguing with idiots does not a sarcastic person make.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: A universal problem with UA
« on: January 19, 2011, 06:48:26 PM »
The third law of motion follows for gravity.

Do explain this. What, are there infinite amounts of equal and opposite reacts occurring between the two objects?
By the law of gravity, the Earth exerts the same gravitational force on the Moon as the Moon exerts on Earth. Same thing between the Sun and the Earth, and you and me.  It's like this between any two masses.

So you are saying that a banana will exert the same gravitational force on a black hole that the black hole exerts of the banana?

All the sudden the banana out of nowhere gains extreme gravitational strength?

RET is getting crazier by the moment.

No, you are simply failing to understand the concepts that you "disprove".

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Map
« on: January 19, 2011, 05:45:47 PM »
It doesn't matter who you voted for because McCain is not a true conservative either. If you believe in the theory of evolution and if you don't  believe in God, then yes you are a liberal.

Actually, it makes you an atheist. There is a difference.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Conspiracy motivation
« on: January 19, 2011, 04:39:27 PM »
Quote from:  Wikipedia
Stratellite is a brand name trademark of Sanswire for a future emissions-free, high-altitude stratospheric airship that provides a stationary communications platform for various types of wireless signals usually carried by communications towers or satellites.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: A universal problem with UA
« on: January 19, 2011, 04:37:05 PM »
I meant spherical. And EG: TB said that UA is responsible for the diskiness of the Earth.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: A universal problem with UA
« on: January 18, 2011, 07:17:26 PM »
EG, you're arguing with yourself.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Map
« on: January 18, 2011, 01:56:48 PM »
I am once again tired of all of this multi-layered trolling. I'll stick around to see how my threads end up, but after that, I'm on hiatus.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Map
« on: January 18, 2011, 01:33:36 PM »
We told you that there was either: a) Angles of the camera on the plane\ satellite, b) human error, or c) issues with accuracy of the plane\ satellite (as I said, it is only accurate up to six feet).

Then I seem to remember some idiotic discussion of whether or not Japan was the correct size and shape.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Map
« on: January 18, 2011, 01:12:23 PM »

Haven't we argued over this picture before? I seem to remember an RE victory.
No, I wouldn't have brought it up if it was an RE victory. That thread is definitely owned by the FErs.

For the short amount of time we spent on that picture, you gave exactly the same problem and had it answered.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Map
« on: January 18, 2011, 01:00:51 PM »
Below is a Google map.

Feel free to look up the same location yourself. It is down the road from my house.



You will notice the road does not join up. It does in real life, I have driven down it. Why does the road not join up? Is it because they have a mosaic of flat earth photos (taken from high altitude aircraft), and are now transposing them onto a globular map? In other words, the patchwork doesn't fit, because the earth isn't round.
Lay all these photos flat instead and they will all line up perfectly. Earth is flat. The imperfections in Google Earth only go to hi-light errors made by the Conspiracy. If you look for them, you too will see the world is being lied to.

Haven't we argued over this picture before? I seem to remember an RE victory.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Faulty evidence in the Conspiracy FAQ
« on: January 18, 2011, 12:44:28 PM »
Diameter of the Sun is an empty page.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Faulty evidence in the Conspiracy FAQ
« on: January 18, 2011, 12:40:15 PM »
Get a blog. >:(

Sorry. Just trying to keep it alive, so they might do something. If there weren't so many problems, I'd have stopped by now.

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Flat Earth Q&A / A universal problem with UA
« on: January 18, 2011, 12:38:25 PM »
If everything is moving up, then why are other planets circular? It would seem that if a planet has UA and normal gravity at the same time, it would end up looking like a football.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Faulty evidence in the Conspiracy FAQ
« on: January 18, 2011, 12:31:11 PM »
Note: If you haven't noticed, I've moved beyond the Conspiracy page.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: How can I travel to the edge?
« on: January 18, 2011, 03:54:10 AM »
Quote from:  Tom Bishop
Lurk moar

This site is so predictable.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Conspiracy motivation
« on: January 17, 2011, 06:43:47 PM »
How does GPS work in the middle of the ocean if it needs towers everywhere?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Plate Tectonics?
« on: January 16, 2011, 06:36:13 PM »
James, the nearest coastline is Southern California, its about 270 miles from Las Vegas to the ocean. Dinosaurs traveled that far from the sea with corals in their jaws? LOL

No, I would imagine the put them in baskets, which they strapped to the backs of pack animals (probably saurolophus).

Troll, troll, troll your boat...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Conspiracy motivation
« on: January 16, 2011, 06:31:17 PM »
I work in the industry (cellular / two-way), there are towers EVERYWHERE.

You don't live in a rural area, do you?


Well I was about to say - in the middle of the Ocean.
But yeah - Lots of Rural areas in Canada have 0 cell-phone service.

Berny
Doesn't bother with a cellphone - they cause brain cancer.


I'm jealous. What do you live on?

Food.  Water.  Catching the next Top Chef.  What else is to live on for?

Berny
Not sure what the question really entailed.


I'd meant what kind of boat.

Long time ago - Barquentines.  144 footer and an 180 footer.  5 months on one, 10 months on the other.


Berny
Will miss the boat.


Nice. I sail trimarans and lasers, myself.

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Flat Earth General / Re: If the Earth is an Infinite Plain
« on: January 16, 2011, 08:02:47 AM »
You are wrong in the most banal possible way. Imagine an infinite surface in which a topology the shape of the Earth exists, and beyond which there is complete perfect flatness for infinity (or literally any other configuration of features which does not repeat the shapes of africa and europe). Why can that not exist? What mathematical principle rules it out? None.

If we were to express the topology of many different hypothetical infinite surfaces as uncountably infinite series, the members of which each corresponded to the altitude of a certain point on each surface, we could construct a countably infinite number of topologies in which a particular toplogical feature (say, the continents of the Earth) occured in only a single place, followed by an infinite expanse of features which different from that initial feature.

That is to say, there are literally infinitely many conceivable direct counterexamples to your profoundly retarded hypothesis.


If you believe anything else, it is because you have not studied set theory, formal logic or mathematics beyond a high-school level. Please ask anyone who has, whether an infinite series has to repeat itself, and they will tell you no, it does not.

James, you're an asshole.

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I didn't say that everything is determined. That implies a higher power doing the determining. I said that we are unable to make our own choices because everything about us has been shaped by external factors.

You are stating that free will does not exist because everything is shaped by external factors. That means that what happens, is determined to happen. It could not have happened any way else. How can you say someone did something wrong, like stealing, when what they did was completely out of their control? It wasn't only out of their control, but it could not have happened any other way because of the external forces that were affecting them.

Things like genetics and physical forces are completely random. And like I said, if you have the state of mind which allows you to steal, that state must, for the good of society, be changed. This is generally accomplished by jail time\fines and intimidation. And if you cannot be changed, and what you do is a big deal, we must end your ability to do it via a life sentence or restricted access to something.

Except they aren't completely random. You stated it yourself.

Oh really? Even if you don't realize it, you will have had a reason for the choice. Perhaps it is because you were raised in such a way that you cannot stand monotony. Or maybe you are missing vital nutrients that are provided by apples. The human body has been known to do things like that.

Genetics could end up being shown that your genetics are how they are due to how they egg and sperm fused, and how the DNA was combined. That is completely out of your control, and yet it can define you. Physical forces, how other people interact with you, also are not random, since they too, were determined to end up meeting you, and to be affected by everything they are.

Sure, you can argue that the behavior needs to be changed, and that is all good. But you can't morally blame them for their actions. You can't claim that they did something immoral. How could you?

Because they made the decision to do what they did. Even if the outcome of that decision was determined by external factors, they still made it. Whether we have free will or not, we have the illusion of it.

Things like weather, for instance, may or may not happen. And which sperm makes it can also be rather random. I do not believe that it is possible for everything to be determined unless there is a god doing the determining.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat earth??
« on: January 16, 2011, 07:45:48 AM »
And Tom, as I've told you several times without response, refraction caused those results.

It's absurd to say that a chance mirage pops up in front of the observer every time the experiment is performed, projecting an image of the observed body at the exact height it needs to be in the air to simulate a flat earth.

Who mentioned mirages? Because you were so close to the water, refraction caused the light from your camera to "bend", causing you to take the pictures you got. Try repeating the experiment higher up.


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Flat Earth General / Re: Conspiracy motivation
« on: January 16, 2011, 07:42:44 AM »
I work in the industry (cellular / two-way), there are towers EVERYWHERE.

You don't live in a rural area, do you?


Well I was about to say - in the middle of the Ocean.
But yeah - Lots of Rural areas in Canada have 0 cell-phone service.

Berny
Doesn't bother with a cellphone - they cause brain cancer.


I'm jealous. What do you live on?

Food.  Water.  Catching the next Top Chef.  What else is to live on for?

Berny
Not sure what the question really entailed.


I'd meant what kind of boat.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Plate Tectonics?
« on: January 16, 2011, 07:13:47 AM »
how would you explain the fosilised sea life in the middle of a continent? i sopose nasa planted them there  ???

How would you explain modern fish bones found in a garbage can in midwestern America?

Like us, the dinosaurs caught fish very often, and shellfish too, and brought the corpses inland for consumption and trade.

What sounds more plausible: that simple fact, or some contrived theory about oceans in the middle of deserts?!

Stop using Occum's Razor. It is not proof of anything, And the second one, because 1) Dinosaurs were not civilized beings, and 2) to travel on foot from any coast to the center of America would take quite a bit longer than it would take a fish to decompose.

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I didn't say that everything is determined. That implies a higher power doing the determining. I said that we are unable to make our own choices because everything about us has been shaped by external factors.

You are stating that free will does not exist because everything is shaped by external factors. That means that what happens, is determined to happen. It could not have happened any way else. How can you say someone did something wrong, like stealing, when what they did was completely out of their control? It wasn't only out of their control, but it could not have happened any other way because of the external forces that were affecting them.

Things like genetics and physical forces are completely random. And like I said, if you have the state of mind which allows you to steal, that state must, for the good of society, be changed. This is generally accomplished by jail time\fines and intimidation. And if you cannot be changed, and what you do is a big deal, we must end your ability to do it via a life sentence or restricted access to something.

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Flat Earth General / Re: If the Earth is an Infinite Plain
« on: January 15, 2011, 09:30:59 PM »
Please ask a mathematician about the difference between a pattern and true randomness. 1.1111... may go on forever without changing numbers, but if you have a million-sided die and roll it infinite times, you'll roll the pattern {100000, 9585, 1, 60, 18537, 986479} infinite times.

Do you believe that the digits of pi (an infinite series) repeat?

they don't repeat, but as it is an infinite series any pattern should be found in there.
Not necessarily true.

Of course it is. Any non-repeating infinite series will contain all patterns.

No, you're simply wrong, and here's a proof:

Suppose I construct a series as follows:
I begin with 1.
I continue the series appending 12, thus: 1, 12.
I then continue by adding 123, thus: 1, 12, 123.
In each case, I append a number with one more digit than the last, and this I do ad infinitum. How could the series ever repeat itself, when each new item has a different number of digits to all previous items?

You are simply in poor command of mathematics. You are out of your depth.

This is logically repetitive, not mathematically repetitive. However, it is still repetitive. And let's not resort to petty name-calling.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Conspiracy motivation
« on: January 15, 2011, 09:29:06 PM »
I work in the industry (cellular / two-way), there are towers EVERYWHERE.

You don't live in a rural area, do you?


Well I was about to say - in the middle of the Ocean.
But yeah - Lots of Rural areas in Canada have 0 cell-phone service.

Berny
Doesn't bother with a cellphone - they cause brain cancer.


I'm jealous. What do you live on?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Myth of the Flat Earth
« on: January 15, 2011, 09:27:31 PM »
Ah, so they teach books which hold false facts? How do we know "Earth is Not a Globe" is true or false?
Through repitition and verification.

That sounds a lot like the fact-checking in modern textbooks. The Scientific Method is used for verification, which includes repetition by others in the scientific community. How is it that both of these could be "true"? Either yours is just wrong because it failed when repeated for verification, or ours is wrong because that sort of verification is invalid. Considering the advancements and corrections the scientific method employed, I would say you're just wrong.

Rigorous peer review and verification isn't part of the Scientific Method.

There is no official "Scientific Method". There is, however, a scientific community, of which rigorous peer review and verification is most certainly a part. In fact, it is about 90% of it. And your precious experiments were not upheld by this community, which is why you dismiss it.

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