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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What proof would fe-ers accept as evidence of a spherical earth

« on: October 14, 2013, 02:00:19 AM »

If I climb to a higher vantage  point so that the ship is no longer obscured by swell the ship will no longer be on the horizon.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What proof would fe-ers accept as evidence of a spherical earth

« on: October 13, 2013, 11:12:12 PM »

Video's of sinking ships are worthless, on a sea as calm as a millpond there is no sinking ship. If its blowing 30 knots the sinking ship effect happens close to shore where as on the millpond it disappears to a dot on the horizon.

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 25, 2013, 07:13:58 PM »

And it is at this point I have to trust my eyes because that is the reality of my world. I cant see myself being in space to check it out in the near future so I wont be living in somebody else's fantasy.

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 25, 2013, 07:02:25 PM »

See I say the earth is curving up therefore horizon comes up.
The  FEer says its flat therefore the horizon comes up.
The REer says the earth is curving down therefore the horizon comes up.
I then say "there is some crazy shit going on here"

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 25, 2013, 06:52:23 PM »

Are you trying to convince me the earth is flat and level?

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 25, 2013, 06:26:37 PM »

My point is that I don't think I have to choose between round and flat earth as stated by jtlondon83 not when I stand on a cliff use my actual eyes I can see it does not curve down ,does not lay flat its rising. I think everyone needs to get there heads out of these crazy books and have a look at the real world.

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 25, 2013, 05:47:33 PM »

Do you mean post an experiment out of somebodies book that I have not done for myself.
My experiment requires no equipment , no data just your eyes ,toes and a cliff. Stand at the edge look down past your toes, then raise your head until your eyes come up to meet the horizon. There will be no photos or drawings of me doing this as proof as they are not necessary . If I have to lift my head up how can it be convex.  If this does not work for you we obviously view the world differently, which is fine.

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 25, 2013, 03:59:24 AM »

I stood on the cliff face looked straight down in front of my toes and the water was approximately 200 metres below. Then tilted my head upwards approximately 90 degrees and the horizon was at my eye level with a ship sitting on top.

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 25, 2013, 03:09:01 AM »

When I have been in a plane or balloon ride as I ascend the ground drops below and the horizon comes up to meet the eye.
Or even today I stood on a cliff face on the coastline looked down toward my feet the water was below a long way down, then looked ahead and the water came up to my eye level. So if I do any of these things and turn completely around the earth looks concave.
 Now someone will try to convince me that its an illusion, my eyes are not functioning correctly or tell me the scientific reason it looks like this and not to trust my eyes. So to me the earth does not look convex it looks more concave and the nature of this world is much more mysterious than what we are lead to believe.

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 24, 2013, 02:49:35 PM »

To be honest I cannot recall seeing a sinking ship effect on glassy sea, but that does not make it fact. On the other hand I have seen sinking ship effect on rough seas using only my eyes with the ship being quite close. Because I do not subscribe to round or flat earth keep in mind this is just my observation.

You have to subscribe to one surely, flat or round. You do believe the world exists right?

Cartesian - Yes I would, because why would you make that up?

If Cartesian said he saw curvature I would also believe him. Just the way it curves is where I think we would disagree

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 22, 2013, 02:02:45 AM »

My observation encourages somebody else to look.

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 22, 2013, 01:04:45 AM »

Sorry its not.

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 22, 2013, 12:44:55 AM »

I could not give an approximate distance because with the naked eye I cannot see these craft. When I look through the scope they appear, there is no way I can give an estimate of distance and the scope is not something I could judge distance with.

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 21, 2013, 10:52:03 PM »

To be honest I cannot recall seeing a sinking ship effect on glassy sea, but that does not make it fact. On the other hand I have seen sinking ship effect on rough seas using only my eyes with the ship being quite close. Because I do not subscribe to round or flat earth keep in mind this is just my observation.

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Flat Earth General / Re: An observation I have made

« on: September 21, 2013, 05:19:55 PM »

As I said, Its just an observation.

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Flat Earth General / An observation I have made

« on: September 21, 2013, 03:54:35 PM »

I work on the coastline of the Coral Sea. One of our buildings is approximately 50 meters above sea level, we have a telescope 60x magnification set there.
 Now this is what I have noticed. When I look to sea on a day with 1 metre plus swell using only my eyes I can see the sinking ship, I look through the scope and nothing has changed the complete boat does not come into view its just bigger. Then on another day when the sea is flat like a sheet of glass I look carefully at the horizon only with my eyes and see nothing on the horizon I can then look through the scope and see a ship filling the whole lens and so clear I can see water breaking off the bow.
So on a mill pond sea with just eyes not just a sinking boat, but "no" boat, then with the scope full boat appears.
As I said just an observation.

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The Lounge / Re: Going vegetarian

« on: September 17, 2013, 11:34:43 PM »

Thanks for the welcome,
I don't know where I got that from, but I don't think any of us come up with anything on our own.

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The Lounge / Re: Going vegetarian

« on: September 17, 2013, 11:14:02 PM »

It makes me nervous watching people eat salad, because they are actually eating the food my food eats.