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Flat Earth Q&A / riddle me this, flatman
« on: August 05, 2006, 02:25:35 PM »
Quote from: "CrimsonKing"
Quote from: "Ezkerraldean"
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Haha, what? That's right, Flat Earthers are actually evil wizards, draining your soul each time you post. And we would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those pesky kids...


sounds just as likely as the global Conspiracy.

more likely actually, since it involves far fewer people and therefore less mass-disinformation and intricate coordination and organisation.


Ill assume you mean mass-misinformation...

coordination and organisation are simple things past a certain point.  There have been sociological discoveries that can estimate how people will react given certain situations, for the most part.  This has been the way things work for centuries.  Machiavelli knew it oh so long ago when he wrote "The Prince."  Stalin used it to make his people think he is GOD.

Controling people is not too hard of a chore when given the proper amount of resources (which a collective world government would have) and proper motivation (which it obviously has to create a conspiracy like this).



but according to this, there must be countless millions of people who are in on this Conspiracy - just about every single geologist or astronomer on the planet. each of these must be lying to every single layman they ever speak to.

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Flat Earth Q&A / riddle me this, flatman
« on: August 05, 2006, 02:16:39 PM »
Quote
Haha, what? That's right, Flat Earthers are actually evil wizards, draining your soul each time you post. And we would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those pesky kids...


sounds just as likely as the global Conspiracy.

more likely actually, since it involves far fewer people and therefore less mass-disinformation and intricate coordination and organisation.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Pics of flat earth
« on: August 05, 2006, 02:12:03 PM »
Quote from: "Mephistopheles"


thats not round or flat. its bumpy!

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Flat Earth Q&A / sun
« on: August 03, 2006, 01:14:48 PM »
rrr--iii--ggg--hhh--tt

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Flat Earth Q&A / Media on space
« on: August 03, 2006, 01:12:03 PM »
Quote from: "KamikazeFish"
Quote from: "socialaztec"
It would be different to see a flat earth presented in movie although it probably wouldn't work because the earth would accelerate away from the reference frame of the person on the ship leaving them stranded.


that's one thing i dont think has been mentioned if a space shuttle leaves the planet how can the shuttle return if the earth is still speeding upwards?



the space shuttle is a conspiracy, of course!!!
it is just a balsa wood model on a string, according to FEers.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Astronomy and FE theory
« on: August 03, 2006, 01:11:17 PM »
remember, space probes are a Conspiracy!!!

even though you can fucking see Mars rotate with a home telescope, it all seems to be a conspiracy.

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Flat Earth Q&A / universal acceleration
« on: August 03, 2006, 01:10:08 PM »
how does this account for the fact that g is measurably less at great altitude?

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Flat Earth Q&A / seismic waves
« on: August 03, 2006, 01:09:23 PM »
bullshit.

you would get further waves generated at the intersection with the mantle, and they certainly dont look like that.

in that model, there is no possibility of a shadow zone either.

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Flat Earth Q&A / sun
« on: August 03, 2006, 01:07:11 PM »
so, how exactly does the suns light diffract to cause this? it is certainly impossible without refraction.

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Flat Earth Q&A / seismic waves
« on: August 03, 2006, 01:03:46 PM »
mmm?

look in a geology textbook to see how seismic waves actually work. or do it yourself at a university.

oh no sorry, thats all a conspiracy.

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Flat Earth Q&A / sun
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:57:11 PM »
so the sun "orbits" 3000 km up without going under to the other side. and the radius of the flat earth thing cant be more than 10000 km. so how come the sun sets?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Okay, serious question time.
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:55:02 PM »
Quote from: "merg"
And when the scientific evidence / community is sooooo overwhelmingly in favour of RE theory? How do you square that with "finding the truth?"

There must therefore be several fields of science which to your minds shouldn't even exist!

How do you dismiss the entire field of astronomy (one of my favourite hobbies)? The other planets are round, and have been mapped (well some better than others), as has the Sun...




evidence = conspiracy.

 there is nothing you can do.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Quote from the FAQ
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:54:05 PM »
Quote from: "Copernicus_was_wrong"
Quote from: "duffman656"
Have you guys ever thought for just a second that maybe the government isn't "out to get you"?

Sure. And have you ever thought for just a second that the Earth may not be a sphere? Or do you expect that kind of open-mindedness only from us?



ive done enough work in the space exploration business already to personally prove to myself that the earth is round and the solar system is heliocentric. but of course, i am part of the conspiracy so you shouldnt listen to me.

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Flat Earth Q&A / dogplatter
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:51:51 PM »
plaiud are great. except greedy baby, which is shit. im sure Ken will agree.

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Flat Earth Q&A / dogplatter
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:49:53 PM »
Quote from: "merg"
I met Plaid the other day



xltronic merg ????!!?!?!!!

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Flat Earth Q&A / dogplatter
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:48:23 PM »
the Black Dog ?



i just had a hunch, thats all.

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Flat Earth Q&A / A problem with round earth model...
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:47:44 PM »
at noon the sun is not necessarily above you. this is playschool science



FUCKING LOOK OUTSIDE

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proove the NASA photos are fake
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:46:08 PM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "Ezkerraldean"
are you a biblical literalist? if so this would be pretty ironic


I sort of feel like you just asked me if I was totally unfamiliar with the English language, because if so it would be sort of strange that I was communicating in it.

Have I given you any reason to believe that I am a biblical literalist?



no not directly. but that seems to be some peoples prime justification for a flat earth.

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Flat Earth Q&A / dogplatter
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:44:20 PM »
ken downie ?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Explain Magnetism
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:43:48 PM »
is there a way to prove the FE magnetism over the RE magnetism, without you people shouting "conspiracy!!!!" ?

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Quote from: "Erasmus"


Yeah the bit that I dunno anything about is why the different forms of radiation.  I know uranium decays primarily by emitting beta radiation... how does it "decide"?  Maybe it does all of them, and alternates according some self-perpetuating process......?

-Erasmus


it does not decide. alpha, beta and gamma are totally different in nature.

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Flat Earth Q&A / space travel in a flat earth universe
« on: July 19, 2006, 12:38:48 PM »
well?

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Flat Earth Q&A / space probes
« on: July 19, 2006, 12:32:28 PM »
was Sputnik 1, the first sattelite, faked?

were all these [unmanned] scientific missions faked? if not all, which ones?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_planetary_probes#Earth_probes
please note that i personally participated in the huygens program.


if both NASA and Interkosmos missions were both faked, this would imply that the Conspiracy™ traversed the Iron Curtain, implying that the Cold War was part of the conspiracy and did not actually occur.

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The Lounge / POLL Chicken vs Egg
« on: July 19, 2006, 12:27:07 PM »
Quote from: "jitterbug"

What came first? The platypus or the egg?


the egg, since therapsids laid eggs before the mammal lineage split from the reptile lineage

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proove the NASA photos are fake
« on: July 19, 2006, 12:25:46 PM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
simply accept everything you are told at face value, you are not training yourself to be the sort of thinker that the academic world needs.



are you a biblical literalist? if so this would be pretty ironic

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proove the NASA photos are fake
« on: July 19, 2006, 12:22:46 PM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "Ezkerraldean"
so am i wasting my time doing a planetary science course?


I'm pretty FEers and real scientists agree that if you take a course and simply accept everything you are told at face value, you are not training yourself to be the sort of thinker that the academic world needs.


well, of course. thats why we do small amounts of work for ESA analysing the Huygens probe data. we don't just sit back and absorb. we participate.

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Flat Earth Q&A / the Conspiracy™
« on: July 19, 2006, 10:54:20 AM »
Quote from: "Mephistopheles"
Quote from: "Ezkerraldean"
Quote from: "Aralith"
Did you miss my post entirely? I explained why they believed in a conspiracy, so there shouldn't be any more questions about it.



no i read it. but you cannot prove step 2 false, as any evidence against it is called a "conspiracy". the whole thing is unfalsifiable to them, therefore not a valid scientific theory


It never was a scientific theory.


so why do you consider it scientifically valid?

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Flat Earth Q&A / the Conspiracy™
« on: July 19, 2006, 10:53:00 AM »
Quote from: "Aralith"
Did you miss my post entirely? I explained why they believed in a conspiracy, so there shouldn't be any more questions about it.



no i read it. but you cannot prove step 2 false, as any evidence against it is called a "conspiracy". the whole thing is unfalsifiable to them, therefore not a valid scientific theory

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The Lounge / POLL Chicken vs Egg
« on: July 19, 2006, 10:51:13 AM »
technically neither, since species are not static.

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Flat Earth Q&A / the Conspiracy™
« on: July 19, 2006, 10:49:28 AM »
Quote from: "Mephistopheles"
Quote from: "Ezkerraldean"
likewise,

"i have never seen the earth from space, so how do i know space travel is real"


That makes no sense.  Even so, I've never seen that claim.


so what is your basis for your claims that space travel is faked? is it merely because it disagrees with the Flat Earth model?

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