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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: March 27, 2024, 05:30:10 AM »
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/26/1240890579/truth-social-trump-media-and-technology-group-trump-net-worth

There's no way this isn't a massive fraud that's going to land a bunch of people in prison.
Its a meme stock, as I've seen it called.  Like when Gamestop stock surged super high because of a buyout/shortsale comming and people wanting to stick it to the man.  But it was unsustainable.

Likely Trump can't sell his shares immediately (if he wants to) and by the time he can, the stock should reflect their real value.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: March 25, 2024, 06:46:57 AM »
I reread the Passion narrative with fresh eyes.

Often, we blame the Jews or the Romans for Jesus's death. But you know what actually killed Jesus? It was Jesus himself.

The Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus, for disrespecting their laws and bureaucracy, and because they knew he was the actual king and a threat to their authority. They have since refused to reveal the New Testament to Jews (I'm not kidding, it's literally a forbidden book, and some of their text is altered now so texts that said "they pierced my hands and feet" instead say "like a lion, my hands and feet"). But the text literally tells us that they were unable to by their own evidence. Even by kangaroo court, they failed as long as Jesus made no comment, not until they heard him declare himself the Son of God.

The Romans had a case against him for tax nonpayment and maybe as King of the Jews too. But not only did Pilate not find him guilty, but he was unable to defend him from the lynch mob. Despite being supposedly invested with all sorts of power from Rome, he couldn't save one man.

So the mob killed him, right? Wrong. Jesus's problem with the mob was that he wouldn't stand against Rome, he wouldn't be the conqueror king they wanted. In other words, Jesus forced their hand.

I bring this up for an important reason. Why did Jesus rise from the dead? It was because nobody had any authority to kill him in the first place. That is, they couldn't make his death stick, because neither people, nor priests, nor worldly bureaucrats have any REAL power. I was reading the webtoon Forever After last night, and they had a Queen of Hearts segment where it was revealed that she never had any power at all. She just had a bunch of cards that she was animating.

I'm talking about the Mandate of Heaven. Trump, Biden, or anyone else do not have power except through the will of the people. Biden in fact had to basically behave like a dictator, locking up his opposition, because nobody bought the idea that he was elected. Such unjust leaders act out because they are impotent. Where does the power of the people come from? It in turn is granted by God, who supports only justice and righteousness.

So, if Biden is unjustly elected a second time, it will be because he cheats. But all of his endeavors are doomed to fail. Likewise, if Trump is unjust or unrighteous in the way he leads, the Mandate of Heaven will not allow him to oppress his own people. It is only through the will of God that Trump can hold power.

Have leaders misruled in the past? Yes, but if you turned off the news for awhile, you'd realize that their authority has no visible power on this Earth. Remember COVID? Not one person was able to force me to wear a mask or get vaccinated.

If I'm understanding you correctly...

Trump is in Jail already due to a direct order from Biden and God only allows those who are just and righteous to hold power.  Unless they cheat.  God can't stop cheaters.

Also, Trump, if he's unjust, God won't let him oppress his own people but God will let him oppress anyone else, like democrats and non-Trump supporting Republicans.

Is that right?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« on: March 13, 2024, 08:43:45 AM »
The TikTok ban passed in the House, and is headed to the Senate. Biden says he will sign it.

I don't know what to think about it. I know that TikTok is the devil, but will this bill give the president the power to shut down any website on "national security" grounds? We all know how the Patriot Act turned out, this seems like the Patriot Act for the internet.

I hope people remember that their party will not always be making the decisions, and what you think is a good idea now could turn into a disaster if in the wrong hands.

Oh no!  China has my data!  They can use ads against me and robi-emails , and what hair color I like! :-\

I mean, yes there's a ton of personal data you could farm from tiktok videos, but they can do that on youtube so its really not a big deal.

This is very clearky a 'We hate China' bill for election season to make old people happy.

And whike tik tok is evil, its no more evil than all of social media.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: War
« on: March 08, 2024, 09:27:00 AM »
Macron, who instigated the war against Russia, was left alone. I don't think any country here will fight Russia one on one or together with the entire NATO. All simulations, with or without China's involvement, show that Russia will wipe the closest NATO countries off the map within a few days. After the military power of America and England comes into play, first the balance is established and then the balance changes in favor of NATO. Are the countries that disappeared in the meantime expendable tools for NATO? Which neighboring NATO member would take such a risk? Germany? Türkiye? Poland or Romania? Baltic countries? Nobody.

Russia is currently one of the countries best fighting against global evils. They destroyed many biological laboratories in Ukraine. I personally would never support NATO in a war between NATO and Russia. There are millions like me in Europe.

Meanwhile, Putin's speech last year in which he reminded who took Berlin has spread rapidly in circulation again in recent days.



Macron speaks very easily about war to Russia because there are Italy, Turkey, Greece, Germany and dozens of NATO member countries between him and Russia. If we had placed France in the Baltic Sea, would it be able to talk so freely?

You say this and yet, somehow, can can't beat a non-nato nation after .. what?  2 years?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: March 04, 2024, 02:09:51 PM »
I agree, it was the correct ruling.  The states shouldn't be able to self-dictate if someone should be disqualified as that'll cause problems.

Of course they didctate who CAN be on the ballot and that shit is both expensive and difficult.

"For 2024, the petition must contain 113,151 signatures of registered voters who did not vote in the presidential primary of either party. The application must include the information about, and signed consent from, the candidate’s vice-presidential running mate. In addition to the petition and application, an independent candidate for President must provide signed, written statements of consent to be a presidential elector candidate from 40 presidential elector candidates (the number of presidential electors that federal law allocates to Texas)."

Trump doesn't even have a VP pick so... Double standards all around!  And thats just Texas.

Tho NY isn't too dissimilar.  Still no fee, which is surprising.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 28, 2024, 07:18:33 AM »
LORD DAVE-

I agree with you on that, why would he make a payoff of 100k or whatever it was to her from campaign funds. Granted billionaires are never remotely all liquid but a couple hundred thousand is nothing at all.

However, Trump is also cheap as hell just like most high net worth people (there is a reason they are high net worth), so maybe he thought it was better to use free money instead of his if he really did you campaign funds.

As for the classified files, any president can declassify anything at their own prerogative. However, what were the classified files? My question also remains, why does any president have classified files at their home?? Trump, Biden or anyone?? Sure, around the White House where you can live as well as conduct business, but your private home? I don't think there is anything good that is happening there under any pretense.

See what Crouton said.

For Trump, he just took them.  Likely a mix of "oh shit I didn't plan on leaving and now its January!" Packing and 'I love this picture of me and our nuclear bomb engineers inside this top secret facility.  I'm gonna keep it.'
Why he didn't want to give them back is.... A queation only he can answer.

It should be noted that Biden didn't live at the white house when he got those documents and brought work home.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Google Gemini
« on: February 27, 2024, 12:36:24 PM »
I don't know what they did, but somehow Gemini basically would not give you images of white people! If you asked it for images of Vikings, they were all black, for English kings, for the "Founding Fathers", etc. So people started messing with it, and asking for diverse images of Hitler, so it was more than happy to give you images of black Hitler. Then they figured out how to trick it into making racist images by asking it for images of English kings eating watermelon, and I think that might be when Google shut it down for a bit.

They somehow embedded "anti-racism" into their bot. I don't know how they did it, but if you spend a few minutes reading the reactions on Twitter you will see what I mean. Anyway, this is how Google is spinning it https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-image-generation-issue/  This guy, I don't follow him or anything, he's an astronomer mapping the universe or some shit, he has tweeted out a rebuttal to Google's post https://x.com/mjuric/status/1761981816125469064?s=20
I buy the google excuse, tho its sanitized.

My guess is it went more like this:

"Hi.  We're sorry for our AI bot.  Our programmers have been in crunch for the last 3 months to meet our very tight deadline and we told them to make sure its not all white guys.  Well... They put in too many hard coded restrictions to make more blacks and well... Testing had to be cut down to meet the marketing deadlines.  So we didn't catch that it was making everyone black.
 But don't worry., we plan on firing the programmers just as soon as they burn themselves out again trying to fix this."

I'm certain its not about history revision but just bad demands and bad deadlines.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 27, 2024, 07:58:29 AM »
he ignored the already very very very loose campainge funds rules to misappropriate campainge funds.

Did he? Is that where he got the money for the stormy pay off? If he did then yes, that is illegal. Or are you just saying angry stuff about him because you don't like him
Yep.

He took political campaign funds and gave it to his lawyer so his lawyer can pay her off.  Hence why its an issue.

The fine, btw, is the lost income to the bank.  And while you may feel that the bank isn't a victim because they didn't complain, that doesn't make it legal anymore than attempted murder.  Or attempted robbery.  Or pirating digital data.

Well then, I guess I agree with you on the stormy thing. If it did come from campaign funds then that is illegal as hell, though, I am sure most of the jackasses abuse the funds as well but he got caught.
Probably not as much as you'd think.  Trump was a newcommer and less verse in Campaign Finance Law.  He probably had no idea how to legally do it.  Plus, why would he use campaign money and not his billions?  Thats the real question.

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She is crap as well though, I guarantee she asked for more when she realized he would have even more to lose than a wife. He said no then she came out as a "victim". I am actually not sure how he didn't catch charges but his lawyer did if he gave his lawyer the money. I am guessing he payed his lawyer to sit in time out for him I guess.
He did get charged.  And arrested.  The trial is next month.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/15/trump-to-stand-trial-in-criminal-court-on-march-25-in-hush-money-case
His lawyer pleaded guilty, hence why he is in jail.


As for the documents:
Document mishandling happens more often then you think, but intention is a big factor.  If Trump had just given them all back when the archives asked for them, this wouldn't have even made it to the fringe news

But he didn't.
He hid them.  Stored them in insecure places.  Showed some to unauthorized people.

Hence the trial.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Google Gemini
« on: February 26, 2024, 01:46:54 PM »
It should be pointed out that AI is trained.  Typically from the internet.

This, I feel, says more about humanity than it does AI.

I think it says more about Google than it does humanity, in this case.
Because they put some variables higher than they should have?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 26, 2024, 01:45:52 PM »
he ignored the already very very very loose campainge funds rules to misappropriate campainge funds.

Did he? Is that where he got the money for the stormy pay off? If he did then yes, that is illegal. Or are you just saying angry stuff about him because you don't like him
Yep.

He took political campaign funds and gave it to his lawyer so his lawyer can pay her off.  Hence why its an issue.

The fine, btw, is the lost income to the bank.  And while you may feel that the bank isn't a victim because they didn't complain, that doesn't make it legal anymore than attempted murder.  Or attempted robbery.  Or pirating digital data.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why Do You Support Klaus Schwab?
« on: February 26, 2024, 01:36:47 PM »
Nor I.
Unless its like cricket powder that I never notice.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Google Gemini
« on: February 26, 2024, 11:12:30 AM »
It should be pointed out that AI is trained.  Typically from the internet.

This, I feel, says more about humanity than it does AI.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why Do You Support Klaus Schwab?
« on: February 26, 2024, 11:08:00 AM »
Yes.  He instiuted forced bug eating.  All beef has been banned in the world and only insects are allowed.

You know this because its his policy and what he says, others put in place.

Well, I am not surprised when people mock all this as a conspiracy theory, because that's how they control the narrative. He doesn't have the power to institute forced bug eating, or ban all the beef, or make it so only insects are allowed, but he does have influence on the media, and on world leaders (why else would they all go off to have a pajama party in Davos every year?)

So we went from an "uphill battle" https://www.npr.org/2019/12/24/791030172/companies-face-an-uphill-battle-trying-to-get-americans-to-eat-bugs

To "I will not eat the bugs" being racist  https://www.npr.org/2023/07/18/1188237695/this-right-wing-conspiracy-theory-about-eating-bugs-is-about-as-racist-as-you-th

I mean... Yeah?  He's head of the world economic forum.  A collection of the leading economic minds on the planet as well as a bunch of average minds.  So why wouldn't he have influence?

That being said, alot of humans eat bugs in some form or another. (Like 2 billion ish.)

It should also be mentioned that the person who proposed it to the WEF did so in this article:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/why-we-need-to-give-insects-the-role-they-deserve-in-our-food-systems/

And he owns a company that sells bugs for food.  So there's that.
I haven't found anything where the WEF has the official policy that bugs as food is the way to go.  Nor that Klaus supports it.  So if you have something, I'd like to read it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why Do You Support Klaus Schwab?
« on: February 24, 2024, 11:23:51 PM »
Klaus Schwab kicked my dog.
Doesn't matter unless you're John Wick.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« on: February 23, 2024, 02:33:37 AM »


Well, (deep breath) Biden rejoined rejoined the Paris climate agreement that Trump had torn up and cancelled the Keystone pipeline permit that Trump had given, who had also cancelled the requirement for oil and gas companies to report methane emissions amongst a whole raft of repealed Obama legislations on toxic emissions.

He (Trump) also finalized a plan to allow oil and gas development in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska, a move that overturns six decades of protections for the largest remaining stretch of wilderness in the United States.

Yeah, yeah.  But at the end of the day

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U.S. oil production hit a record under Biden. He seldom mentions it.

You won’t hear President Biden talking about it much, but a key record has been broken during his watch: The United States is producing more oil than any country ever has.

The flow of huge amounts of crude from American producers is playing a big role in keeping prices down at the pump, diminishing the geopolitical power of OPEC and taming inflation. The average price of a gallon of regular gasoline nationwide has dropped to close to $3, and analysts project it could stay that way leading up to the presidential election, potentially assuaging the economic anxieties of swing-state voters who will be crucial to Biden’s hopes of a second term.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/31/us-oil-production-has-hit-record-under-biden-he-hardly-mentions-it/

Biden might be good for the northern spotted owl or whatever, but at the end of the day America is pumping more hydrocarbons that ever before.  More than any country has ever produced in history.

He's in a weird place in that this stuff would probably do well the swing voters he needs, but would be toxic to his younger base.  So he just doesn't mention it.

So, while a democrat might be better for (some) workers rights and local environments, in terms of long term global warming, it doesn't matter who you vote for.  The spice must flow!

Impossible!  Gas prices are high and that means Biden must be pumping out less oil because I don't understand economics!!!


Norway does the same.  We're pushing to get away from fossil fuels while pumping out 25% of our national income with them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« on: February 22, 2024, 03:34:46 PM »
The whole 'let them destroy themselves' sounds great until you realize that they won't.  They'll just fragment.  Democrats stop existing.  Now its only right and far right who fight.  Then whoever wins splinters from there until America is basically 'The Handmaiden's Tale'.

But that requires the entire liberal half to either stop being liberals, die, or have no power.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« on: February 22, 2024, 10:40:34 AM »
But is the Earth really worth saving if it's full of transgendered people?

God will clense the earth of sinners via global warming.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why Do You Support Klaus Schwab?
« on: February 22, 2024, 10:23:34 AM »
Yes.  He instiuted forced bug eating.  All beef has been banned in the world and only insects are allowed.

You know this because its his policy and what he says, others put in place.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« on: February 22, 2024, 10:21:06 AM »
Single issue of death of the planet is a big deal

Earth is too big to fail. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 22, 2024, 02:29:23 AM »

Does an illegal act become legal if the victim doesn't complain?

Also, is your rationale of political tampering really "I haven't heard about any others on the news so it doesn't happen!" ?

Your comparison is incorrect. There was not a victim that didn't complain, there was not a victim at all. The "victim" of the case said they were not a victim, their due diligence agreed with what Trump's team said, they processed the loans, they were repaid with the agreed interest and the agreed time limits.

You can't get a loan for a normal house without proving everything. You cannot say I make one million dollars a year and have infinite collateral without proving it. And even then the bank will do it's due diligence their own way.

The state just made up BS numbers to get him. No different than not being guilty of a crime, so the judge makes up a new law on the spot and finds you guilty of that.

1. He did, infact, overvalue.  He even admitted it.
2. If you want to claim he was accurate then he commited tax fraud by signifcantly undervaluing his property to the state.  The two should match.  They did not. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 21, 2024, 09:46:43 PM »
never try and separate a billionaire from a dollar.

True story, people that rich are that way for a reason. On the backs of others

It's terrifying.  The only sure fire way to avoid this tribulation is to not break the law.  Which is obviously a completely unreasonable requirement.

He didn't break the law, at least on this particular subject

He misrepresented his assets to reduce taxes and improve his loan conditions.  I'm pretty sure this breaks some law. Whether or not the punishment is a bit much is a different discussion.

Yet there was no proof for that? No one that was a victim? Even the banks said they weren't a victim and they were repaid with interest.... If this were some Joe Blow billionaire this never would have happened. It was for the reason it was Trump and a Republican being sniped by Democrats trying to break him so he won't be a threat anymore.

I don't care about Trump, I care about the president this sets




prec·e·dent
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an earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances.
"there are substantial precedents for using interactive media in training"





Umm, it was attempted word play because you know, he was the president and all. I thought it was clever. Thanks for shitting all over that.

I will never understand grammar Nazis. It has nothing to do with the subject matter and yall only look like douche bags with nothing to add to the conversation. I suppose highly technical conversations in certain fields it can matter, beyond that, get on with that nonsense.


I think there was proof of this.  His valuation of his properties was an order of magnitude higher when he was seeking financing than when he was doing his taxes.  That seems like fraud.

Yeah I've heard that about the banks.  Like I said, whether or not the penalty was excessive is a different conversation and one I'm not setup to offer much of an informed opinion on. 

The impression I get though is that it's kind of excessive.  But I'd have to do a level of research to confirm that that I'm not interested in doing.  I don't know.  Maybe there's a reason behind the number.

No more so than most other people in the same circumstances. Plus, the banks did their own due diligence and said they saw no issues, were paid back as agreed etc etc. There was no victim or crime here yet he is guilty and owes 100s of millions of dollars off the thoughts of one liberal judge and one liberal prosecutor?

Surely how they are coming after Trump and trying to take his money on shady cases would put up a few red flags? Right at election time? Only liberals are involved?

I mean that "rape" case, you or I could have been convicted on that with zero evidence. Who knows what he did, but do you want to live in a world like this where those in power can do whatever they want to you if they don't like you? I am pretty sure we can point out some countries like that in the world and they are not pretty, nor places the average person would want to visit much less live.

Does an illegal act become legal if the victim doesn't complain?

Also, is your rationale of political tampering really "I haven't heard about any others on the news so it doesn't happen!" ?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« on: February 21, 2024, 09:31:05 AM »


The Democrats have had 50 years to get abortion sorted out. I have come to the realization that most of them don't really care about it. They use it as bait. If you don't elect Democrats you will lose your right to choose! wtf have they been doing this whole time?

In fairness, we all thought it was settled in Roe v Wade.  Turns out the new SCOTUS (3 from Trump) disagreed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 21, 2024, 01:54:59 AM »
It's terrifying.  The only sure fire way to avoid this tribulation is to not break the law.  Which is obviously a completely unreasonable requirement.

He didn't break the law, at least on this particular subject

Which subject?  There's like 3 major cases against him.  One of which he was found guilty and the other two are in progress.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 20, 2024, 10:00:56 PM »
Stupid outrage is stupid. :/
That being said... What about Trump's NY properites?  Doesn't he have to sell them or something since he was banned from business deals in ny?

Jimmmy: the good lawyers won't touch him.  Most of them anyway.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 19, 2024, 02:22:30 AM »
Made in China?  Mexico?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 16, 2024, 05:02:43 AM »
Except for Harris, she has got to be one of the dumbest evil people I have seen in politics and that says A LOT considering her competition.
The VP?
What's she done?  Because I haven't heard anything about her: good or ill.
I just assumed she was so good at her job that no one even knew she was there.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 14, 2024, 03:12:41 PM »
I am just perplexed that we again face the decision of two shit sandwiches for candidates.

Does this show the corruption of Washington? A reflection of how shitty the general population is? Or a combo of both?

Also, there used to be mostly liberal/democratic here.... Surely y'all cannot support Biden and his administration right?
Have they done anything super bad?  Or just like normal bad?  Because I'm not comming up with anything off the top of my head that his administration has done, aside from keep him propped up due to his age.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: February 14, 2024, 05:14:03 AM »
I think they're both unfit. Trump is a lunatic, and Biden can't remember what he had for breakfast. We're fucking doomed.

I get that, but unfortunately it's almost certainly going to come down to one or the other.

Time to start think worse case scenarios-

What's the worst plausible outcome with an dithering old man who gets things mixed up in charge vs what's the worst thing that could happen with a wannabe dictator?  You could question the mental capacity of both, but both will have whole teams of people around them to support them.

Biden will likely get increasingly embarrassing, maybe cause some minor diplomatic incidents, but there will be others who can mop up any mess.  You can't accidentally pass bad legislation just by being forgetful.

With Trump, who knows?  Maybe a lot of it is hot air to get his supporters fired up, but if he actually means what he says and is able to it, you should probably be very worried.  I'm worried, and I live on a different continent.

This is accurate.

Trump's team spent the time preventing a mess by manipulating him into doing or not doing things.  Like ignoring his orders and waiting until he forgot.

Biden's team will just do his job for him as much as they can with, I suspect, little resistance.

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Liar.

If you were happy, you wouldn't be actively wanting to tax the middle class into poverty using a tax that statistically the wealthy never pay.

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In Monday's White House press briefing, Huckabee Sanders said:

"The numbers are not exact and I’m not encouraging any drinking. That’s mostly for my parents. I think you will enjoy it. Suppose that every day 10 people for our purposes go out for beer. The bill for all 10 comes to $100. If the 10 reporters paid their tab every night the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this. The poorest would pay nothing. The fifth would pay $1. The 6th would pay $3. The seventh would pay $7. The ninth would pay $18, the richest would pay $59. That’s what they decided to do. The 10 reporters drank in the bar every day and seemed happy with the arrangements until one day the bar owner threw them a carve ball.

"Since you are good customers, I will reduce the cost by $20. Drinks would now cost just $80. They wanted to pay the bill the way we pay our taxes. The first four still drink for free. What about the other six? How could they divide the $20 windfall so everyone gets their fair share. These were reports and they are concerned with fairness. They realize that $20 divided by six is $3.33. If they subtracted that from everybody’s share, the fifth and the 6th reporter which would each end up being paid to drink beer. The bar owner suggested raising by a higher percentage. He explained they continue following the principle of the tax system they have been using.

"He proceeded to work out the amounts that each should pay. The fifth reporter like the first four now paid nothing. He got a 100% savings. The 6th now paid $2 instead of $3. The seventh paid $5 instead of $7. The 8th paid $9 instead of $12. The tenth now paid $49 instead of 52. The first four continued to drink for free. Once outside the bar, they began to compare their savings. I only got $1 declared the 6th and she pointed to the tenth reporter. They got $10!

"The next night, the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks and the had their beers without him. When it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They no longer had enough money to even cover half of the bill. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how our tax system works. People who pay the highest taxes will benefit from a tax reduction. Taxing them and attack them and they might drink overseas where the atmosphere is friendlier."

The wealthy never pay, because they are chastised and told to pay their "fair share" so they walk. They do most of their business elsewhere. You're left paying the bills without their money. If you would think for a second, and design a system where they get to put their money back into the system, instead of being insanely driven by envy about how the other half lives, they would donate to schools and parks.

You are why we can't have nice things. You are jealous of those who seem to have more than you. You are miserable, and you want to pull others down with you. Why can't you be happy for them?
If I don't die within the next ten years of poor health, I will outlive my parents just long enough to see taxes take away everything they worked their whole life for. This is not my money but their money. My state at least has no inheritance tax, but I can't be sure I'd manage it well.
 I don't envy the rich. They have their own problems. Stuffy tradition, meddling family members using money to attach strings on their children's lives, ennui, depression, and a compulsive desire to keep what they have. Leave them alone, worry about your own life! My brother makes over $100k, but has bratty entitled kids, and as a result, they have toy trash all over the place. Groceries alone are $500 for them, according to my mom's estimate of one of their shopping trips, and they throw food away. I don't envy them. They don't appreciate what they have.

1. The rich currently pay most of the tax income of America.
2. Your plan is for the poor to pay more money and the rich less.
3. The rich would move elsewhere anyway.  You don't become rich by spending more than you have to.
4. I'm middle class so by your logic, I want to destroy myself.  I already pay 25% in sales tax, what more do you want?

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Also, the right doesn't value the individual.  It values the group sameness.  It hates change and variation.  Its basically religion, which is about as group membership value as you get.

"Serve God and be worthy to be at his side in the end."

Projecting much?

Conservatives are quite different from person to person. My dad and mom are both different from me in terms of political theory. So is my brother. So are other conservatives I've met in town. Everything from their take on COVID, to their theory on what sort of president they want, to their stance on guns. Hell, not all conservatives are even religious.
There are certain similarities that many conservatives have. But they are not monolithic.

You are talking to a person who doesn't believe in the apocalypse, and who does believe in universal salvation. You will be by God's side regardless of whether you are faithful or not. But you won't be happy, even if God is happy with you.

I was trying to be generic.  The definition of a conservative is someone who doesn't want change or wants to go back.  Tradition is very important as well.

Also, I am happy.  Mostly.

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