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The Lounge / Re: Hi all! What have I missed?
« on: April 30, 2021, 04:30:35 PM »
Space Cowgirl!

The Lounge / Re: Hi all! What have I missed?
« on: August 14, 2020, 11:32:49 PM »
Yeah your right, i meant nothing bad by it
As a map maker, do you ever question the accuracy of it all?

Haha no, the opposite. I've seen how inaccurate it all is. I've gone from precise AutoCAD engineering drawings, to surveyed areas pieced together into a parcel fabric. Things don't align, datums get mixed up, locations get averaged. If the world was flat everything would be much much easier.

The Lounge / Re: Hi all! What have I missed?
« on: July 29, 2020, 12:29:11 AM »
If you have registered an account on this site, you're on the spectrum of some type of mental illness.


People loved that quote, what can I say?  ;D I'm not afraid to talk about my mental illness, if you want to know just ask!

Hi Flat Orange, cool name. your still working? keeping that machine runnin

Tell the ladies you want to be friends first and mean it - i hypothesize., no, i know

Yep, still making maps!
I'm already friends with the ladies so there's no point in saying what's already been established. But I appreciate the suggestion!

We don't get to experience the world when we're dead and forgotten, so best to just make the choices that bring the most joy and positivity into your life while you're here, I suppose!

We literally have no idea what happens after we die.

I'm getting bored and frustrated with the ongoing staying-at-home exercise and looking forward to hopefully being able to take a vacation at some point in a version of the future where you can do that sort of thing without getting the family geared up in hazmat suits. So let's just say it's on the 10-year agenda for now.

I don't want to go back to normal. I've been an introvert living in an extrovert's world.

Sorry aboout the keepin the machine running comment.

It was a good comment!

The Lounge / Re: Hi all! What have I missed?
« on: July 21, 2020, 07:13:57 PM »
Hey FlatOrange!

Hi Space Cowgirl! Any new music these days? I had a nostalgia moment the other day and binged on some good ol' Mates of State  ;D

Hi there FlatOrange, how's things?

Hey boydster! Pretty good! I'm a little bit feeling like i'm not very productive at work-from-home but I spend quite a bit of time talking about big issues that feels important too? When we all die and are forgotten, what will become of the choices I made that I thought were important at the time? I don't know. How are you?

The Lounge / Hi all! What have I missed?
« on: July 21, 2020, 02:00:07 PM »
The biggest drama would be if anyone switched sides. Has it happened?? That would be amazing.

In other news, how is everyone? Anything significant in your lives?

Nothing big here, single, living alone--kind of done with trying to not be single. I started watching Avatar the Last Airbender and I definitely resonate with the Airbender lifestyle of being free. But at the same time I think I found the spot I want to live in forever and never leave. I'd still argue that I'm an airbender because I'm not putting down roots. I'm just occupying this space until I return to dust.

Anyway, hi!  Hope you're all well (all things considered of course) ^-^

Actually, about the status of the production model: I've tried to look for information whether or not the one shown to us is "road legal" (I lack a better word)? Is it pedestrian safe in all markets what with all the safety regulations and such?
It has quite a bit of stuff to sort out before it's legal.  Mirrors for starters (not allowed just cameras), the headlights, the steering wheel and probably a ton of other stuff.

No friggen pickup truck is "pedestrian safe" - which is why pedestrian deaths in the US have been steadily rising for years.

Mirrors will be obsolete soon

Flat Earth General / Re: Collection of Dates
« on: November 19, 2019, 02:43:15 PM »
Announced today by SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell: SpaceX to land Starship on the Moon by 2022.

The Lounge / Re: Hello
« on: November 19, 2019, 02:37:45 PM »
How are you all? Its been a while, tell me of the planar earth and how you explain the cats not knocking all things off the edges all the time.

I wont lie, I have kinda missed this insanity, but school and work have been rough. Anyone still on that remembers me?
Uhhh... did ya leave again??

infamous liar, criminal
So you just label him these things and then say he's evil?? What did he do? You need to support your claims. You can't say he is evil because he's a criminal and then say he is a criminal because he is evil.

Does evil have the guise of being altruistic? He donated $1 million for trees being planted, he works tirelessly, he doesn't take a salary.

Your claim that he is evil seems to lack support from acts of evil and is instead full of symbolism and mixing natural events with cryptic messages.

Flat Earth General / Re: Best flat earth maps?
« on: November 04, 2019, 11:17:52 AM »
What are considered the best flat earth maps?
OpenStreetMap! It's the wikipedia of maps. Anyone can edit the map, all you need is to register an account. It's best to map something you know, so either your current place of living or maybe your hometown. Don't be discouraged for not knowing how to edit. Take a walkthrough with the iD editor. Noobies are welcome!

Flat Earth General / Re: Confirmed Pseudolite Landing
« on: October 31, 2019, 02:36:44 PM »
From another article

Samsung clarified the weather conditions required immediate action

Someone needs to tell Samsung that there is no weather in space

Flat Earth General / Re: Let's Own NASAs Hackathon
« on: October 17, 2019, 09:51:40 AM »
I would have to research more on their data and the data available elsewhere, but if you want me to shoot in the dark:

Due to time constraints I'd look at an unsupervised algorithm, especially if the data is appropriately categorized. I'd look at a classification algorithm to determine whether it is coherent and supports a round earth - perhaps even a competitive classification algorithm. I'd likely use an open library for doing this, and pipe it into that.

Alternately, we could take a non-machine learning based approach. Taking the National High Altitude Photography data set which is meant to cover the contiguous states at 40,000 feet we can extrapolate how much overlay should exist between the photos given a flat surface photograph being placed on top of a globe. If this value differs, we have solved a problem.

The bulk of the work is in finding "good" data.

Another idea: take the Landsat Image Mosaic of Antarctica (LIMA) dataset and compare it to newer and older attempts.

Another: cross reference attempts to map the coast of the antarctic over years and show inconsistency.

Another: Look at their landslides by country data set and see if it correlates with coriolis effects.

So to answer you:
1) Find a good data set
2) program something to read it in
3) write something to analyze it

You know you can literally just see if the sun moves faster in a southern summer vs. a northern summer.

Sadly commercialism is the future of space exploration and travel.

What's sad about that?

Quote from: mak3m
Lots of resources out there to exploit

What's wrong with exploitation of resources off our home planet?

Flat Earth General / OFFICIAL 2019 POLL: When will we travel beyond ISS?
« on: October 15, 2019, 03:01:25 PM »
NASA says they want to return to the moon by 2024. SpaceX wants to fly around the moon in 2023.

Are we really within 5 years of this monumental achievement?

Flat Earth General / Re: Flat earth observations/experiments
« on: July 22, 2019, 02:22:56 PM »
I would be interested in seeing how Flat Earthers could deny the facts of that Official Navy Manual. 🙄
Well, that makes 1 of us  ;)

 ;D ;D ;D

Flat Earth General / Re: Flat earth observations/experiments
« on: July 22, 2019, 11:01:39 AM »
I stood at sea level and viewed mountains that were >100 miles away. The mountains had the appearance of having snowfields at sea level, but based on local knowledge and the fact it was midsummer, I knew the snow fields would be >1k feet above sea level. I concluded that the earth between me and the mountains must be curved.

original post

EDIT: OOPS. Just re-read and notice that you were addressing flat-earthers only. Sorry to waste your time!

The Lounge / Re: Storming Area 51
« on: July 15, 2019, 05:44:25 PM »

Flat Earth Debate / Re: To Alaska and back (Hopefully!)
« on: July 15, 2019, 04:18:32 PM »

I know it's been a while since I've posted here but I've just been very busy.

I recently went on a voyage by ship from Washington to Alaska.

It was over 2500 miles long (about 4000km) and it took nearly a couple weeks.

I gotta say, the earth sure doesn't seem flat when you are navigating on long journeys.

(And yes I drove the boat some of the way when Captain and first mate needed a break!)

The weather has been lovely, and it never gets dark this time of year - you get a nice sunset which then turns into a nice sunrise - no night here!

Sorry to those of you who think Alaska and the north is around the outside of the flat earth - the days are just way too long here!

Anyway I'm supposed to be flying home soon (In a week or so?) - are there any particular things I should check for on the way home?

I have the theodolite app for starters. I'm also thinking of videoing ocean and land masses moving below the plane to check GPS/groundspeed to see if they match up or not.

(Of course there's only a small chance I get a window seat.)

Anyway, let me know any ideas I can do to help show the shape of the earth.

I'll try to check back here before taking to the air and see what I can learn!
PM me if you're still here! I live in Alaska!!

Flat Earth General / Re: What's the deal with REers here?
« on: July 05, 2019, 09:55:57 PM »

Flat Earth General / Re: What's the deal with REers here?
« on: July 05, 2019, 09:37:54 AM »
Hello FlatOrange!
Hello!! *waves emphatically*

Flat Earth General / Re: What's the deal with REers here?
« on: July 03, 2019, 05:58:52 PM »
I've been wondering lately: Why do round-Earthers (REers) come to the Flat-Earth Society? A quote commonly attributed to Einstein (probably incorrectly) says that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. REers come here (which is fine, it's an open forum) where they know they will find FEers, and they present the same old arguments over and over again. I don't think I've ever seen an original or new argument in favor of a RE. And I doubt that any FEer has ever been swayed over to the RE camp by these arguments. So why do they bother? I know why I'm here: To find like-minded people to have friendly chats with. But a REer on these forums must feel awfully frustrated. Why do they subject themselves to this? There must be more enjoyable ways to pass their free time than arguing with us incessantly. And yet they trudge on, never converting anyone, but keep up the same old Arguments day after day; year after year. I don't understand it.
I had some posts that I hadn't seen on here before. One involving a laser and a plumb bob. Sheep boy (can't remember the username) let me know that lasers don't travel 10 miles.

I have another "original idea" that I haven't seen carried out. Only problem is, FErs say I'm the one who should perform the experiment. Well, I'm not the one who thinks 7 billion people are wrong so I don't really care to execute it.

This is the plan: find somewhere on the ocean where you have tall mountains in the distance. Get a boat to head straight towards the mountains. Make a long timelapse of the approach. On a round earth the mountains should appear to rise up out of the water. On a flat earth which argues perspective causes the mountain to appear very small, the mountains would proportionally expand rather than appear to rise up.

Anyway, I stopped coming here because I have a facebook friend who lives in my town who is a flat-earther. I'd rather expend my ideas and energy on him rather than this board.

I do come back from time to time to update the board on The Conspiracy. If NASA, SpaceX, and the global space corporations are just painting us pictures and fancy space stories, they have a lot to live up to. Either way it should get exciting. I will welcome the FE lolz if in 20 years the carrot is still dangling in front of us Round Earthers about civilian space travel.

As far as your quote about Einstein and insanity, he clearly never used a computer. I often have to do the same thing over and over and get different results because computers are just that great. /s

EDIT: And I come back for Space Cowgirl; she's the best  ;D

Raise your hand if you saw the eclipse in totality

*raises hand*

Just for fun, the USofA is 5,100 miles West to East.
*thinks to self* did Bullwinkle include Alaska?
*checks on a map*


Flat Earth General / Re: 24 hours sun in Everest
« on: April 03, 2019, 03:44:04 PM »
As we very well know that, so we can see sun during 24 hours if we on a high mountain.
Nowhere on Earth is this possible.

Not 1 mountain is tall enough for 24 hour daylight.

The tallest mountains experience the same amount of daylight/nighttime as the deepest valleys.

In fact, ALL parts of Earth experience equal amounts of daylight/nighttime*.

Altitude/height/elevation make absolutely no difference in amount of daylight/nighttime. The only difference is a tall mountain would see the sunrise earlier, but it would also set later. Meaning amount of daylight is equal to surrounding base of mountain.

I want to just keep reiterating this over and over. All parts of Earth have equal parts night and day when you add it all up.

You want to know why??? It's a spinning sphere.

*don't try to get me on a mariana trench technicality or ss like that.

The anti vaccine conspiracy gives conspiracy theories a bad name, also Alex Jones shouting at a pile of poop gives conspiracy theorists a bad name.
Thank you, Space Cowgirl!! <3  :-*

The Lounge / Re: Hello
« on: April 03, 2019, 09:52:47 AM »
How are you all? Its been a while, tell me of the planar earth and how you explain the cats not knocking all things off the edges all the time.

I wont lie, I have kinda missed this insanity, but school and work have been rough. Anyone still on that remembers me?
*takes drag on pipe*1 I remember...

1Is that a thing? Idk

I thought I recall seeing a thread about antivaxxers and tfes was saying "they're giving conspiracy theorists a bad name". Could anyone help me in finding that thread?


Flat Earth General / Re: If FE was accepted
« on: March 21, 2019, 07:29:58 PM »

Facts don't exist in science. It is but a hypothesis that the sun might rise tomorrow.

Theory and law are fashion.
So itís also a hypothesis that you will die one day?

Flat Earth General / Re: If FE was accepted
« on: March 21, 2019, 12:52:17 PM »
Well, Phew has got somekind of acknowledgement. It's not the case when I introduced it for the first time and the following months.
Perhaps due to bad, or uncomplete presentation. Only a few people supported Phew, all were Flatearthers.

Lately... some Roundearthers (we all initially came from RET, right?) have given positive feedbacks, e.g. :

FlatOrange... the sun's speed is at peak on summer solstice on northern hemiplane. The more north the higher sun speed will be, the more south the lower sun speed will be. The sun speed is variable depending on the radius from south pole. The more distance from south pole, the higher speed of the sun will be. Visa versa.

Proof? The umbra of 2017's America solar eclipse. The umbra speed on America is higher than the equator's sun speed.
This would be some concrete evidence for Flat Earth.

To me it's all about between drama vs non-drama, between serious vs joking.
Phew is obvious, but afterwards anyone can choose to accept it or to continue joking around.

My comment was interpreted differently than I intended. Key word is "would". As in, demonstrate proof that the sun changes speed and it would be concrete evidence for flat earth.

Never in the history of observing the sky has anyone noticed the sun changing speed.

Edit: added emphasis
This is incorrect. Many times has this been observed. One is present in the bible when the sun stopped speeds. I believe Rowbotham provides some accounts in Earth: Not A Globe.  More reasonable perhaps to a round earther, Charles Fort has documented many times the sun has changed speed or directions - one that comes to mind he cites from Nature happened in Lyons NY if memory serves (I don't have my books at my work desk for perhaps obvious reasons.)
Document it with math. The summer Australian sun should travel faster than the UK summer sun. It changes speed year-round so how should one verify that?

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