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Suggestions & Concerns / Self moderating abuse
« on: August 14, 2011, 09:02:26 AM »
James has posted a load of unqualified nonsense about Satanic conspiracies in the debate section. Though he tries to link it to the topic by mentioning that he doesnt believe microwaves work, most of it is irrelevant gibberish. It quite clearly states on the forum main page that conspiracy stuff is supposed to be in the General section, not the "strictly moderated" debate section. I have had posts of my own that were far more relevant (the SCM and earth edge shape topics) moved to RM, so this religious froth should not be tolerated in the upper fora.
However, thats not my main beef.
As an upstanding member of these fine boards, I did my civic duty and reported the post to the moderators. Heres the reply:

Reported for being in the wrong section. This should be in RM. I have had some of my far more relevant threads moved, this ranted gibberish should be put in the basement, not the "strictly moderated" debate section.

Thanks for your moderation report. I've reviewed the post in question and decided that at this time no action is needed, as the post directly addresses the topic of the thread with some new information. Keep up the good work though!

Here we see James passing judgement on whether his own post needed action. This is inappropriate. If a judge is accused of malpractice, does he judge himself? Can a defendant sit on his own jury? I think not. I suggest moderators should be not allowed to make the decision of whether or not their own post is appropriate. The other moderators should do that. Regardless or not whether my reporting his post was justified, he should not be the one presiding over the decision on it.

Flat Earth General / Hard data on sun positions
« on: August 06, 2011, 01:31:47 PM »
I am going on holiday in a few weeks. While I am away I will have the opportunity to observe the times of sunset in different parts of the world and cross check them against those predicted by Bob Bishops nemesis, the infamous ephemeris calculators, which, according to supporters of the Willmire model, tell lies about the times at which the sun rises and sets. I will also be able to obtain exact latitude and longitude data of where I am to ensure accuracy.
The data gathered in this most zetetic of enterprises will then be presented here.
Any thoughts?

Flat Earth General / Stupid FE theories
« on: August 03, 2011, 05:57:15 PM » quote from Thork.
Thork recently denounced the increasingly popular south centric model as "a stupid FE theory".
I would like any flattists who agree with him to post in this thread why the north centric model is better and not stupid. After all, since the moderators think discussion of a south centric model is so silly it belongs in the nonsense section of the forum, there must be a jolly good reason why the north centric one is better. I have been told that "nobody believes the south centric model", and I am keen to know why this is, as the north centric one must have some supreme advantages to persuade everyone.
Of course, everyone realises that historical precedent is irrelevant, as all flattists weigh the data carefully and do not subscribe to dogma or "it is written" as an excuse. And as we all know from history, the first theory of how something works is rarely the correct one.

Flat Earth General / Mapping the flat earth
« on: August 03, 2011, 05:37:44 PM »
Flattists defend their lack of a satisfactory map of a flat earth (while simultaneously treating their preferred version as gospel) by saying "The FES does not have enough money and resources to send out a mapping team to cover the whole world".
Well, imagine for a moment that it did. I want to know what cartographic techniques they would use, since all known methods of mapping would produce maps identical to those we have for a round earth, which they say are wrong. So they would clearly have to measure everything in a different way - what would that be?

I would like John Davis, the discoverer of AE, to explain here what it is, how it works and how it reconciles what we observe with the theory of a flat earth.

Well, I've seen the posts on this forum that appear to contradict [EA], but as far as disproof, it hasn't happened, any more than (in RE Theory) the rate of expansion of the universe has disproved gravity.

EA predicts basic effects which should be visible from the surface of earth, by the exact same mechanism with which it supposedly distorts the position of the sun and moon. It should also cause distortions of star positions proportional to their altitude above the horizon. It is observed daily that these do not happen. Thats a pretty watertight disproof of the theory.

Suggestions & Concerns / Inappropriate thread locking and moving
« on: July 16, 2011, 06:42:20 PM »
Not only was it unnecessary to lock the thread about my plane shape thread being moved, thereby denying me right of reply, but I consider that it is a more serious topic than Moonshramps, harmful moonlight, BOAT OF FECKING DINOSAURS, the sky mirror, bent light, and so on.
I am appealing for this thread to be put back where it was, or if not, that threads centred on the above garbage topics be also moved to RM to achieve consistency within the boards.

Is it because its too embarrassing for the FES to admit their assumption of a circular map has no evidence for it? It is a legitimate flat earth topic and one that should be addressed. Moving it to RM is frankly a cheap attempt to sweep a difficult question under the carpet.
Pathetic. If the question is too hard, hide the thread away with the nonsense. And yet moonshramps, bent light and DINOSAURS IN A FECKING BOAT are left out in the open for the public.
You guys dont even bother at a pretence of scientific or philosophical debate now... even trolling has become too difficult for you.

Flat Earth Q&A / Why cant we go further North than the North pole?
« on: July 16, 2011, 02:52:54 PM »
If the earth was flat, then obviously the South pole is at the centre (because theres a base there) so why cant we go beyond the north pole?

Suggestions & Concerns / Ordered here by Davis
« on: July 13, 2011, 02:07:28 PM »
Well first off I used my eyes to see the obvious weather system (at least its obvious to me.)  The weather system is sparce based off what we know of the moon atmosphere and its creation.  From both its creation (through fissuring and sputtering from internal breakdowns, for example radioactive decay of gasses in the crust and mantle etc) and objects we have gathered from the moon (blood rain, manna, rocks, etc) we know of at least some of the compounds and elements that can be found there.  From there its simple research.

And people slap my wrist for saying he is a troll...
If you are going to post contentless posts, please do them in random musings.  Trolling these threads to get a rise out of me will result in a ban.  I don't want to ban anyone, but if you continue to flaunt wanton disregard for the rules you will have to be punished.

It is not contentless, it is an ironically-toned comment that I find your explanation of why your "evidence" for a weather system on the moon stretches the bounds of credulity to the point where I think you do not hold the view you purport to. I think most people reading the comment would grasp that from my singe simple sentence.

Flat Earth General / Hypocrisy of Rowboatham
« on: July 07, 2011, 04:57:12 AM »
In his waste-of-words Earth Not A Globe (or Bishops Bible for short), snake-oil merchant SB Rowboatham exhibits a huge amount of picking and choosing of evidence. For those who cant be bothered to wade through the pages of this tome, here are some choice examples of his total un-zeteticism.

1. On the rotation of stars around the south celestial pole: page 219, he says some people have observed the stars rotating around a point centred near Sigma Octantis. Because this disagrees with earth as a flat plane, however, he goes on to say these peoples observations are wrong. He then presents snippets from various mariners logs out of context, which imply that southern circumpolar stars were not visible - without including any reference to weather or atmospheric conditions - and says these peoples observations are correct without question and show there are no circumpolar stars.

2. On the continuous daylight at summer within the Antarctic Circle: pages 221-222, Rowboatham states that some people have witnessed continuous daylight in the Antarctic regions. He then says these peoples observations are wrong, and then presents - again out of context and without weather reference - snippets from mariners logs where they say it was too dark to safely sail at certain times. He then holds these accounts up as proof that there is never continuous daylight within the Antarctic Circle.

3. Page 250, he presents an unreferenced letter from an unnamed individual about the discovery of Neptune which claims Newtonian physics is proved wrong because Le Verriers initial calculations and estimates of the planets orbital size, mass and time of orbit were not 100% correct before the planet was visually observed. This shows a fundamental inability to understand how physics works and that something bigger further away will exert the same gravitational attraction as something smaller closer in. Sorry Rowboatham, claiming these things disprove a theory you dont understand is not acceptable.

Flat Earth Debate / Incredible Shrinking Disc (ISD) Theory
« on: May 19, 2011, 04:42:42 PM »
Regarding the "dark energy" that FE guys have to use as a subsitute for gravity: It has been established in other threads that this energy can only accelerate the earth upwards and not the objects upon the erath, the reasoning being that the earths bulk "shields" them from the accelerative energy.
This leads to the conclusion that the energy must be applied equally across the whole base of an earth disc, otherwise it would tip over (this also enables us to conclude that the underside of an earth disc MUST be radially symmetrical to avoid the same effect... I dont remember any flat earthers working this out before, slackers!)
This would also mean, given the energy is sufficient to propel the immense mass of the earth, that at the very edge of the earth would be a line where the dark energy would come rushing upwards along the side of the disc with tremendous force, greater than the force found in earthquakes or volcanoes. This inevitably leads to the conclusion that this force would rip matter off the side of the disc, hurling it upwards at a far greater rate than the earth is moving (due to the smaller mass of debrided particles, they would be accelerated greater by the energy.)
This presents us with three phenomena that would occur. 1: The earths disc would be getting smaller and smaller as it was eroded away. 2: As the mass of the earth decreased, the rate of acceleration would increase and the force we experience as gravity would get stronger and stronger over time as the dark energy finds it progressively easier and easier to accelerate the earth as it gets lighter. 3: a huge stream of debris would be visible hurtling upwards from the edge.


Suggestions & Concerns / Ichimaru bad moderation.
« on: March 18, 2011, 07:01:44 AM »
I was given a 3 day ban. It lasted for weeks and weeks. It came from someone with the initials "IG". Why did it persist so long? Heads should roll.

The Lounge / Look at this rubbish.
« on: December 02, 2010, 07:20:57 AM »
Under the cover of capitalist backed modern medicine, occultism and atheism have caused the widespread proliferation of terminal diseases and degenerative illnesses like cancer which were unknown whenever and wherever the four humors philosophy prevailed.  Artificial food including chemical agriculture which includes mostly poisons is also part of the science of death which has replaced Hippocratic medicine and natural food. 
Modern diagnosis such as cellular diagnosis of disease such as used in a pap smear is inferior to virtually any branch of tradtional four humors medicine.  Modern medicine is simply garbage, and thus it goes under cover of mysterious and knowledgeable sounding names such as cytopathology (cellular diagnosis) which most people have to look up in order to know what it means, but complicated words, big buildings, and money do not heal people. 

This was posted by 17th November in the "Spethial Peeple Onlie" section. What total garbage. Feel free to pour scorn on this tripe. We all know how much more effective bleeding someone heavily was at curing an infection than, say, penicillin. How I laughed as I died of infective tonsillitis.

Flat Earth Q&A / Moonlight
« on: October 04, 2010, 07:17:54 PM »
Though the focus of Flat Earth Theory is undoubtedly the dimensions of the terrestrial plane, Zetetic cosmogony in general is very much concerned with the nature and properties of the other celestial bodies.

The harmfulness of moonlight is in no way Zetetic, because Zeteticism is the principle of believing only what can be observed and demonstrated, not what is extrapoloated from theory.
Example: The harmfulness of moonlight cannot be demonstrated. The supposed biological entities emitting light from the moon are extrapolations from theory. Therefore this moonrubbish is exactly the opposite of Zetetic in its foundation. Leave now, Willmore, through the door marked fail.

Suggestions & Concerns / Willmore is an obsessive thread locker
« on: May 20, 2010, 08:55:32 PM »
Look at all the locked threads. See who was the last person to post in them. I feel Lord Willmore is to quick to clamp discussions he doesnt like by locking the threads so he has the last word. The other mods dont do this nearly as often.

Flat Earth Q&A / Rings Of Saturn
« on: November 16, 2009, 04:40:46 PM »
According to FE believers, what are the Rings Of Saturn made of and how are they supported around the planet?

Flat Earth Q&A / Bent Light?
« on: October 22, 2009, 05:15:27 PM »
Can someone explain how the bendy light thing works, I thought it bent down which is why earth looks round from in the air e.g. an airplane but now ppl say it goes up?
BTW I have read the FAQ.

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