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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Which of the two videos represent the truth
« on: May 12, 2013, 08:01:54 AM »
The name of the book that I bought was "The Scole Experiments" by Jane and Grant Solomon.  I had to be more specific...

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Which of the two videos represent the truth
« on: May 12, 2013, 07:44:00 AM »
     After really observing in depth all of the posting on this topic, I have come to a very quick conclusion regarding the aetheric wind theory as well as what bendy light explains.  There is a book that NASA had approved of back in the 90's.  It runs by the name of The Scole Reports.  This book proves life after death through Catholic mediumship as well as the existence of a substance or energy called ether.  The existence of this substance stands as the perfect segue to the reality of God and spirits, as well as FE science.
     The tendency of light bending due to gravity would behave in this particular way:  The spherical earth over long distances would appear flat, and the flat earth would appear curved and spherical.  We have to assume that the particles of light can only be bent once as it approaches the observing eye and hits the cones and rods of the retina for analysis...  This explains some of the satellite phenomena that is observed.  It appears curved because of malleable light beams.  Thus, the earth stands a flat surface.  This applies to long distance images over entire continents.  The angle of bending on the photographs needs to be calculated completely.  There might not be enough bend to account for the 24,901 mile circumference of an assumed spherical earth.  I might attach some pictures later on that explain the particular way that we can expect light to bend.

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You have to work with very short distances in order to avoid the possibility of gravity bending light though.  If curvature does not show up on a 6 or 12 mile stretch, those are the results that must be excepted.  Gravity bends light toward the earth so the curvature remains an illusion....

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Flat Earth General / Re: LIVE helmet cam from Space-walkers
« on: May 12, 2013, 06:08:12 AM »
     I was thinking about all the conspiracies that go on within NASA and I came to a very important conclusion.  Even if those photos were real and taken from space, I know that gravity bends light.  The bible agrees with gravity on at least a few points when it describes the earth as being on its foundations.  This means a force is pulling us down on at least one level potentially.  This gravity would make the earth appear curved when actually it is straight.  The dome of the earth of air is like a lens which can have the same effect as well.  Pretty much that explains the false pictures.  Einstein proved that gravity bends light so we have to rely on experiments done on the surface of the earth.  Do not say separate more from the earth, just dig deeper.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: New Experiment Reposted in Correct Bin
« on: May 11, 2013, 05:59:42 AM »
There is no way to observe and prove the curvature of the earth.  Observations indicate that the earth is flat.  I am talking about present an experiment that everyone can perform that invalidates the experiments we already possess.  It is impossible.  Now I address the speed of sound puzzle.  The medium which is air vibrations cannot be given inertia.     Air is not held solidly to the rotating earth so thus it cannot rotate as fast.  Since gravity was described to be caused by a fabric in space that is being pressed down upon by mass, if that were the case, everything fluid would be unequally distributed.  Gravity does not pull down air, it has so much energy that it moves wildly at the atomic level.  There are pieces of the puzzle that are not fitting here do not try to just make up answers...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: New Experiment Reposted in Correct Bin
« on: May 10, 2013, 05:00:15 PM »
If there is no curvature 6 miles out there with a telescope, there is no curvature at all.  That experiment was already performed.  Also, the jet stream accounts for quicker speeds sometimes if you travel west to east.  However, rotation does not show up at all and by observation cannot be proven.  This fact proves the earth's flatness.  For example, the speed of sound is 761 mi/h (approx.), and the speed of rotation of the earth is assumed to be 1000 mph.  You would not hear anyone speak to you, if they spoke from the west of you.  Also, a 22 mile long island with a plank aligned to it from very far away shows the lack of curvature seen in the waters that surround it.  So, I guess I will have to stick to these experiments while I still wait for additional ways to prove my points...

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Flat Earth Q&A / New Experiment Reposted in Correct Bin
« on: May 09, 2013, 06:43:54 AM »
 Hey guys, I am new to this forum, so I would like to start off by saying, "hello."  .  When I first saw that an airplane took the same amount of time moving both east and west between two points, I knew that the earth does not actually rotate 700 mph... Otherwise there would be a slight speed advantage when moving from east to west in comparison to west to east.  I also know that the existence of polonium-218 halos found in granite, which can be googled, prove that the earth had been instantaneously created.  Even dinosaurs according to the understanding of certain ancient apocrypha are explained as creatures of leviathan.
     Well anyway, has anyone ever taken a boat out to sea and gone out at least 80 miles to see the coast with a high power telescope?  With this experiment, we can finally prove that the earth is flat once and for all.   The idea that light actually bends is a horrible lie.  Because, if this were the case, at night time planes in the air would be clearly illuminated by the sun.  This is because the tangent lights rays would have to bend with the gravitational influence.
     Please tell me what you think, attempt to do this experiment, and meet back here. I dont have a boat or anything like that neither can I afford a high power telescope at the moment.  Someone out there must have some form of telescope.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Gravity. It disproves FE Theory.
« on: May 09, 2013, 03:57:01 AM »
Gravity fails to explain the motion of planets.  And it always fails to explain the reason why the orbits of planets have lasted as long as they have.  If the universe was really billions of years old, the orbits of many planets would have decayed already and entered the sun.  There is a deity hence there has to be a flat earth model.  There is another force at work besides gravity that makes the orbits established.  Just mere Big Bang does not suffice...

The 'magic' is the mass of the globe. Space is like a fabric, although it is not a real fabric the same principle works. Lay down on your bed. Put a marble next to you. Where does the marble go? It will move towards you. You have lots of mass, the mass of the marble is very tiny, so it moves towards you. You bent your matress and form a slope.

Now in space the same principle applies. The mass forms a slope. Objects with lower mass are pulled towards the objects with high mass. Hence we orbit the sun, because it has a huge mass.

Put two marbles on your bed and nothing will happen, move them closer to each other and see them move towards eachother. Use some heavy marbles though, because your mattress is pretty stiff. Or use a cloth you span across horizontally over some object (with the middle clear of any obstructions).

Now why don't we move towards the sun is because of our speed. We have an orbital speed, which allows us to stay in our track around the sun. The same thing as a roulette table. The ball is located on a slope, but due to the high speed it maintains its path and spins around. It slows down due to friction with the table and the air, slowly going towards the middle. The same would happen to the earth if you were able to stop it from moving around. In space there is no friction and all the planets are nicely lined up so they do not affect each other's path. This was different about 4.5 billion years ago when our solar system was formed. It just all settled in the many, many years that were to come.

Edit: It needs to be explained that mass and weight are two complete different things. Weight is the force that is acting down on you, where mass is the actual 'weight' an object has. If you take a plane and make a parabolic flight, once you go down you feel weightless. Zero gravity. It is expressed in g-force and 0 g-force is when you could float through the air. You also experience this in a rollercoaster (much cheaper alternative). Once you go down with high speed, you will actually start to become weightless, hence the safety harness to keep you aboard. Once you go up, you feel very heavy, and you are pushed inside your seat.

However do you actually lose weight while on a ride in a rollercoaster? Would a scale tell you, you weigh different when measuring before or after the ride? The answer is no (unless you puked, but that is never a significant change). You remain your same body as you go along in the ride, yet you feel heavier. You did not gain in mass, obviously, you are still the same person, but you feel heavier and that has to do with the kind of force that (what's in the word?) weighs upon you.

But still, the speed that keeps the orbits stable cannot occur by just a chance of big bang.  A sudden explosion wouldn't be able to create that level of order and balance in the solar system.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Gravity. It disproves FE Theory.
« on: May 08, 2013, 03:40:08 PM »
Gravity fails to explain the motion of planets.  And it always fails to explain the reason why the orbits of planets have lasted as long as they have.  If the universe was really billions of years old, the orbits of many planets would have decayed already and entered the sun.  There is a deity hence there has to be a flat earth model.  There is another force at work besides gravity that makes the orbits established.  Just mere Big Bang does not suffice...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Gravity. It disproves FE Theory.
« on: May 08, 2013, 03:07:42 PM »
In addition to the above information, I would like to add that in certain portions of Hudson Bay, Canada there is absolutely no force to pull down on objects.  Some just spring off the table.  This situation opens the door to the paranormal and supernatural... It represents that there is some phenomena not explained by science.  You can even google this phenomena and discover the mystery.  I know how gravity works by the way.  Gravity is proportional to mass; however this postulate is disproven when a boulder and a feather are dropped side by side in a vacuum...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Gravity. It disproves FE Theory.
« on: May 08, 2013, 02:59:04 PM »
Its simple, if it applies to bowling balls and feathers it applies to a giant boulder and a feather as well.  The earth rising upward is a more plausible statement.  Gravity being related to mass is disproven by the before mentioned experiment.

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Flat Earth General / Re: what Earth looks like a mile up or so
« on: May 08, 2013, 01:04:34 PM »
It would look spherical slightly even with a flat earth, because the vault of heaven is a hemispherical shape which obfuscates light.  this gives the impression of curvature where there is none.  All air, moisture, and ozone combine to create a type of lens effect...  The earth still is flat.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Gravity. It disproves FE Theory.
« on: May 08, 2013, 12:26:41 PM »
Gravity theories I find to be utterly fallacious and hypocritical.  If gravity were related to mass really, then a bowling ball and a feather would not fall at the same rate in a vacuum.  Yet what is seen is that everything falls at the same rate.  The disc rises upward at 32 feet squared.  Case is closed and chalk one up for the home team.  Parallax already proved the earth was flat and thusly disproved even the electronic surveying equipment.  This is because if light really bends so that you see through the telescope, technically the range finder instrument would not detect a curve either.  Its all hypocrisy and reverse mind bending.  I will prove it to you.  Go out 80 miles from the shore and use a telescope.  When you see the coast line,  everyone just needs to hang it up and say the earth was flat actually...

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     Hey guys, I am new to this forum, so I would like to start off by saying, "hello."  ;D.  When I first saw that an airplane took the same amount of time moving both east and west between two points, I knew that the earth does not actually rotate 700 mph... Otherwise there would be a slight speed advantage when moving from east to west in comparison to west to east.  I also know that the existence of polonium-218 halos found in granite, which can be googled, prove that the earth had been instantaneously created.  Even dinosaurs according to the understanding of certain ancient apocrypha are explained as creatures of leviathan.
     Well anyway, has anyone ever taken a boat out to sea and gone out at least 80 miles to see the coast with a high power telescope?  With this experiment, we can finally prove that the earth is flat once and for all.   The idea that light actually bends is a horrible lie.  Because, if this were the case, at night time planes in the air would be clearly illuminated by the sun.  This is because the tangent lights rays would have to bend with the gravitational influence.
     Please tell me what you think, attempt to do this experiment, and meet back here. I dont have a boat or anything like that neither can I afford a high power telescope at the moment.  Someone out there must have some form of telescope.

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