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You totally should've made that a link to a Lolita search on Imagefap. Also no, it's entrapment.

It apparently is legal. It is ruled that it isn't entrapment since the link was in no way misleading to what it was link to. The link made the user aware that it was illegal, and they clicked it anyways.
that's the way I read it to. the major problem I see with this is trying to figure out who was the one that clicked the link, and of course if someone new about this they could put the link on another site to get people trick people into clicking the link.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Best film ending
« on: February 03, 2011, 07:07:51 PM »
I liked the ending of Lucky # Sleven. just the wait what just happened here mentality.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Fox News
« on: February 03, 2011, 10:12:01 AM »

not sure if anyone posted this clip but it is needed to give context to this next one.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Islam - The religion of peace
« on: February 03, 2011, 09:49:26 AM »

1. We are not God.  We are created in His image, but we are not Him.
I couldn't agree more; I wasn't saying we are god.
I was saying that an immoral action performed by any entity, is still an immoral action. There is no logical reason why breaking a moral code would be dependent on the identity of the perpetrator.

You can't be omnipotent and immoral at the same time.

singularity beat me to this but why would being all powerful have anything to do with being moral? hell most of the people with a lot of power tend to be corrupt as it stands and they just have power of a small country...

*edited since when I did this from my phone it came out wrong.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Bill Nye is speaking at my college.
« on: February 01, 2011, 02:11:19 PM »

The most awesome science entertainment guy in the world.

I have all the episodes on my external hard drive :D

can someone please point out a time in history where the trickle down effect actually worked effectively at all?

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Dark Knight Rises
« on: January 21, 2011, 08:53:44 PM »
I am a big fan of the Matrix trilogy, perhaps because it was completely original. Albeit I had two minor complaints: Neo's psychic powers outside the matrix, and all the slightly less annoying the religious themes.

As for the Dark Knight Rises, one thing that concerns me is maintaining that strong link with reality. The completed films are so strong because the characters have all been plausible/realistic. Other characters are supremely cartoony and stretch the suspension of disbelief. For instance, I would have been horrified if Mr. Freeze was scheduled to show up again with his "freeze ray". Bane seems like he has a lot of potential to cross that line, and it concerns me.

Why do you think Bane will cross the line? I thought he would be one of the more believable villains.
eh. anything effecting biology in such a extreme manner seems slightly unrealistic.
he has the power

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Fox News
« on: January 14, 2011, 06:02:08 PM »
" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">Fox news at its best
the statistic quote is my favorite one. "they have a smaller population so it doesn't work"

''Evolution only talks about the change in an organism.
Ambiogenesis is the creation of life from molecules''

Abiogenesis = the theory of organic evolution.

Like macroevolution this has never been observed though, so its not apart of science. Just another faith/speculation/assumption.

as pongo has pointed out to me,
google four winged fruit flies.
also new species of bacteria.
Also dogs, as they seem to be on their way to new subspecies at the very least

And if human's didn't evolve, why are there no millions year old human fossils or evidence of uber old civilization?
how come we can't make new planets? after all, we'd have been a race for billions of years
The earth is not billions of years old. it is 6000 years old give or take a couple hundereds years as infered by the bible. duh.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Melanin Theory
« on: January 11, 2011, 01:15:18 PM »
ur statistics are not only severly outdated...

and wht the hell is an "African American"? 

HOW? do these terms relate w/ P I G M E N color...MELANIN !!!

come on dude...i jus told you those diseases are DIRECTLY related to LACK of this the best you do?

i dont relate to manmade terms...only NATURE...although melanin is a manmade term, at least its REAL actually have a decent point here. I'll translate it for the rest of the group.

muur is saying, and correctly, that race isn't purely related to genes for skin tone. Race entails subtle genetic differences that make it almost a non scientific classification.
also race studies suck because of the fact that it is largely socio-economic. For one example of a flawed study, it was once thought that black people in general were prone to sickle cell anemia. while partially true, the real connection was dark skin. Fact is not all black people are dark as night, its a common fallacy.

Isn't the real connection that if someone has heterozygous alleles for sickle cell anemia he has a natural defense against AIDS, and since most AIDS is in Africa, and most Africans are black more Africans get sickle cell anemia?

Or am I now mixing up cause and effect?

right idea wrong disease. it helps with sickle cell helps with malaria.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Autism Study fraud - No one cares
« on: January 07, 2011, 12:54:50 PM »
I choose to think of that as a convoluted form of natural selection. If there were a pandemic, those who stupidly chose not to get vaccinated get sick. Those of the stupid people who survive can still contribute their effective immune systems to the gene pool.
The problem with this idea is that if enough people get vaccinated it stops the spread of the illness. That way if say you have a condition so you can't get a vaccin you won't get it since you won't be exposed to it. Innocent people are dieing because of this stupid idiotic movment.

dude cass' fuck off

after the 10th alt it stops being funny
i don't think this is cass. cass at least stays on the topics he created for a couple pages. this person says something that has everyone here call him an idiot. he is the definition of a troll. cass... I think actually believes what he is saying.

I don't think this person is an alt. cass seemed dead serious. this person is an obvious troll.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Al Gore
« on: December 30, 2010, 09:20:05 PM »

If you want to "disprove" something in a way that only stupid people will believe, use anecdotal evidence.

Which is much better than made up evidence(or scientific proof) whatever you want to call it.
why why why do people like you always assume if something inconvenience you it must be made up or some part of some conspiracy? we are talking about the vast majority of scientist the world over agreeing to a conspiracy. picture if you will trying to get a group of humans that diverse to agree to that. hey you know what? maybe the were making up relativity. I can prove it by running around a track. notice my watch didn't slow down.
okay that may have been a little rant but come on. believe it or not scientist don't live to make republicans lives harder.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Al Gore
« on: December 27, 2010, 10:28:44 AM »
Its Wardog
Right, because a localized storm on the east coast of North America is the ENTIRE WORLD. 
Is his entire world.

Snow = warm fronts.

I live in an area that often does not get that much snow because for a good portion of the winter it is to damn cold to snow. This year we got a lot. But it was also a warmer winter so far.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Plagerism.
« on: December 23, 2010, 07:41:56 PM »
Grades are meant to reflect comprehension though. If you get two good grades by killing a bird with one rock, I'd say you understand the material and thus deserve the grades. If the topics don't overlap enough, or if the grades aren't ideal, it means additional effort and/or research should have been applied.

Grades are a means to evaluating things like knowledge and proficiency.
Like you implied, school isn't "real world", and grades aren't either. Interpreting them as their own end, changes the moral equation.

You're discounting the selection element of grades. Not only do they serve as a measure of comprehension, but also as a selection mechanism based upon effort. In the sense of this argument, the grades are not seen as an end in themselves, but as a means toward sorting students. Reusing papers demonstrates a lack of effort.
frankly I view doing extra work as a sign of stupidity. we are supposed to be training people to do things efficiently. if you are an engineer and you spend your time reinventing the wheel you won't have a job for long. frankly put you have already put in the effort for the project why do more for an arbitrary reason?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Warped priorities in western society
« on: December 20, 2010, 03:23:57 PM »
I have got in the habit of swearing from rock climbing. In my defense I think it is perfectly natural to start swearing when you are inches away from breaking bones. unfortunately it is carrying over to the rest of my life. I don't see any major problem with swearing although I think you should not use them around small children if for no other reason they may want to learn the meaning of the word such as fuck and force the parents into explaining everything at an inopportune time

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Plagerism.
« on: December 19, 2010, 08:59:02 PM »
But do you think that is is unethical to do this for say a paper to two different classes? I understand why it would be unethical if you had sold the rights to the original but...

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Plagerism.
« on: December 19, 2010, 08:09:41 PM »
I was talking with my Boss on what is considered Plagiarism and apparently turning in the same paper to multiple classes is considered Plagiarism and my college. I was wondering what other peoples thoughts were.

The Lounge / Re: Who's an organ donor?
« on: December 17, 2010, 08:51:34 PM »
Your organs cant be used unless you become braindead anyway.
that describes around half of U.S. voters.
old but appropriate.

The Lounge / Re: Metrodome roof collapses...
« on: December 13, 2010, 02:23:16 PM »
what about the memories?
The metrodome was an okay stadium, but The Vikings have never been a team worth giving a damn about, and the Twins got their own ballpark last year. It's not like it's gone forever. It's collapsed twice before, it'll be fixed.
wiki says there were three collapses. your point still stands though

The Lounge / Re: Metrodome roof collapses...
« on: December 13, 2010, 12:10:08 PM »
...under the weight of snow dropped by the blizzard.


I don't think it was windy enough for the snowfall to be classified as a blizzard.  There not only needs to be heavy snowfall, but also blowing snow to limit visiblity.
this probably depends on where you were. I couldn't see the road in front of my house.

The Lounge / Re: Who's an organ donor?
« on: December 05, 2010, 06:45:58 PM »
I think organ donation should always be opt in. My organs are my property; please do not use them unless I give permission.
I am not sure if you are serious or not. however I am fairly sure that stuff isn't considered your property if you are dead.

It's a show of respect. If I stated in my will that the world can go fuck itself and that all my clothes should be burned under a full moon to the moon goddess of lust, I would expect my wishes to be fulfilled. Similarly, please don't use my organs unless I say you can.
you just made a point. If you said all your clothes should be burned then yes they should be. but do you think all your items should be buried with you if you have no will?


You see?  That would be far too damaging to their worldview.  It's much easier for them to draw an arbitrary line in the sand and assume that all non-whites are a violent and savage lesser breed of humans.  .
dear god I can not believe I am actually defending a bigot.
He is not saying that any particular race is more violent then any others he is saying that  bad things happen when different races mix. yes his views are wrong and raciest but make sure that you attack his particular views in this argument. granted I would believe that he thinks other races are more savage but that is not what he is saying.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Islam - The religion of freedom.
« on: December 05, 2010, 06:36:09 PM »
What are you talking about the "innocent"?  Animals are just that, animals.  They are for our enjoyment, they are for our food, they are for our clothing, I don't see how killing an animal as a sign of atonement, is killing an "innocent".
I'll ignore the fact that humans are animals for the purposes of this talk: So you don't see any reasons why animal abuse is wrong? Do you think animals can suffer?

Are you a vegetarian?  Are those animals sacrificed for your nourishment?  Some would say plants feel in the same way.  Should we not pick lettuce or chop up carrots for the same reasons?  Are you saying there is no way to humanely kill an animal?  Yes animals can suffer.  But killing them for their intended purpose is not abuse.

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As for your picture....well you should finish that story.   God has only taken the blood of one human.  His own Son.
Try to keep the strawmen to a minimum please.  I expect more than that from you.
As I under the impression that Christian's believe the story of Moses, (and consequently the killing the firstborn's of Egyptians not faithful to that god) it was not a straw man, but a miscommunication. As a Christian, do you not believe the word of the bible?

Your first picture was not talking about the killing of the first born.  Unless you were confused about what that picture was.   As for your second picture...or joke however you want to label still a strawman.  God did not ask anyone to kill children.  It was a plague set upon Egypt by God as punishment for enslaving His people.  How does that correlate to sacrificing animals as atonement for one sins?  Killing all the first born did not absolve the Egyptians for enslaving the jewish people.  It was a punishment.  Much the same as the Great Flood was a punishment.
the first picture comes up on my computer as a picture of moses looking at his "brothers" dead child from the cartoon movie a few years back. and how the hell is killing children not punishing innocents, that is very similar logic the terrorist used on 9/11 "well those people are all part of the system that caused us problems so they should all be punished.

The Lounge / Re: Who's an organ donor?
« on: December 05, 2010, 06:23:25 PM »
I think organ donation should always be opt in. My organs are my property; please do not use them unless I give permission.
I am not sure if you are serious or not. however I am fairly sure that stuff isn't considered your property if you are dead.

Btw, if you ever get into the real world and outside your liberal fantasy, you will realize races don't want to mix.

Wtf? Obvious troll is trolling. There isn't another possibility.
hahahahaha. really you don't think this can be real? what color is the sky in your world. believe it or not there are still bigots and some of them can use computers. as for truthseekers comments

The Lounge / Re: Who's an organ donor?
« on: December 05, 2010, 11:46:18 AM »
organ donor

cyclical time? What are you talking about, Dave? It was my understanding that space-time itself formed when the big bang happened.
Loop quantum gravity. Big Bounce Theory.

More theories, assumptions, faith. That's all you have.
could you please prove that 2+2=4 for me. I accept that 2+2=4 because of the evidence. all I can say is the math backs up the theories unlike your ideas.

If you don't believe the universe had a beginning, then you can't believe in time.

You might then want to clean up about fifty of your posts (in this thread & the other) where you have stated you believe the earth and universe is billions of years old.
okay someone correct me if I am wrong.
think of the universe like a flip book. every moment of time is one of those pages. the flip book could have been around forever while within referance to the pages being moments in time it would still have a begining.
not sure how coherent that is...

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