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Michelson-Morley interferometry

Did you know that Mr. Michelson also created more precise way to measure Doppler shifts? To the point that the telescope's altitude on this spinning ball has to be accounted for.

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"No experiment has ever been performed with such excruciating persistence and meticulous precision, and in every conceivable manner, than that of trying to detect and measure the motion of the Earth. Yet they have all consistently and continually yielded a velocity for the Earth of exactly ZERO mph."

Then why can I turn on a switch on my star app, so if attached to a telescope, it can point 20 arc seconds better? From the sky shifting sideways from the 66,000 mph around the sun.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Letís hear if for the Indians.
« on: August 24, 2019, 09:32:31 AM »
Yep, I have seen one of their sting of pearls of small satellites.
With Cartosat-2c
When you watch them go by in a telescope, I have to keep moving the telescope West to keep the string centered. The amount of drift matches from our changing perspective from our rotation.

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1. Don't need air for rockets to work, some actually work better in a vacuum, usually a longer nozzle. After a launch and out of sight, we can see them in orbit within 98 minutes.
2. It usually takes 2 weeks to get a payload into a GEO orbit.
I actually observed GOES 16 get to it's parking spot.
3. Sagnac test did not come to your FE conclusion, you cannot use their testing, without using their conclusions. Most avionic mechanical gyros have a weight that keeps the it level, to the current earth location, but slowly, so the aircraft's variable Gs, don't affect it.
3C. Tell us if he requested that on his tombstone.
4. I don't think Hubble understood Einstein's theories.
5. The gravity of each large object, is the other force, so the change of vectors is not felt.


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Flat Earth General / Re: how to know the altitude of a DirecTV satelite
« on: August 24, 2019, 09:11:33 AM »
Thanks, but that sounds to obscure site to me.
I was hoping I could just download from my PC, like Twitter allows.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The Candle Experiment
« on: August 24, 2019, 09:08:30 AM »
"And yes I used a linear estimation for my derivation. I felt it necessary, and apparently I am right as this matter of simple elementary school arithmetic is stumping even you!"

Yet my images over land and over water, agree the the curvature to 20%, that means it disagrees with the flat idea by 80%.
% wins.

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Flat Earth General / Re: how to know the altitude of a DirecTV satelite
« on: August 23, 2019, 07:33:52 PM »
And you can see them only in a single row.
Off from the 0 deg declination, by the correct amount depending on your latitude, for something that is 23,000 miles over the equator.

Even with a small telescope.
Or put your cell phone up to binoculars, then take 8 time images.
Then stack them.

(Admin: How do I attach images, from my PC?)
(They were all on Goggle+, but that went away.)

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Flat Earth General / Re: The Candle Experiment
« on: August 23, 2019, 07:18:38 PM »
"the flame will not touch the twine, showing the predicted drop in curvature of two inches is not observed."

It's not 2 inch drop on 1/4 mile. it's 1/2 inch.
1 mile is 8" drop squared, so you have to square root when you go less than 1 mile.
1/4 mile is 1/16 of the 8" drop.
You can't make a string 1/4 mile long, drupe less than 1 anyway.

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"Do you have an explanation how the operation continued while the survival operation temperature limit was 60 degrees celcius but 107 degrees exist on the moon? Your tears can not cool down the temperature."
Answer:
4-12 layers of aluminumized Mylar, in the outer vacuum layers of the suit.
It works like having 4-12 Thermoses inside each other.
They do have a internal heat issue, so they slowly evaporate a gallon of water off a sublimation plate on the back of the back pack. Which is attached to lots of small water caring tubes against their skin. I saw one image of the steam on an image of them on the moon.

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"But some companies claim they run more than 1.000km/h. So it is a lie. But you don't aware it because you are ignorant in that issue."

They can because their limit is 900 km/h air speed, when there is a jet stream of 300 km/h in their direction, then their ground speed can be 1200 km/h. So that is not a lie.

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Flat Earth General / Re: how to know the altitude of a DirecTV satelite
« on: August 19, 2019, 05:52:36 PM »
Today, I just figured out your estimate of the quantity needed to cover a 1 degree XY pattern, for the dish to have a good signal. Good job.
And you should see them in the sky in that pattern, but I only see one row of them at 23,000 miles away.
Also what happens when the dish points at one of the others? They can't have too many frequencies or polarization to keep the dish from seeing the others.
The mulitbeam method they use on real GEO satellites, points at an area, but how does millions of balloons, keep pointed to their 1 degree spot on the earth in the wind?
The Flat solution has many more problems.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Questions for a 'glober'.
« on: August 19, 2019, 05:39:30 PM »
Nixon phone called started with a land line phone, but it was then connected to a radio telescope pointed to the moon. It's called a phone patch, I saw one in operation in the 70's.
The patch could go to mars, but the round trip delay would be a pain.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Round earth and Flat Milky Way Galaxy
« on: August 19, 2019, 05:36:10 PM »
Solar systems and galaxies have lots of space between the objects, the they stay disk like.
There are less collisions to loose their orbital motion, so they don't fall in together.

Suns, planets, and moon ext, are smaller have have reached that threshold and have collected, so gravity makes balls.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Cavendish experiment
« on: August 19, 2019, 05:27:28 PM »
It is a college lab experiment.

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Then you have to explain why during the assent, the rocket has almost no air as it get higher, but is still accelerating.
W also see it in orbit, till it comes back down.
I have seen one that has been in orbit for 61 years now.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Ham Radio moonbounce ... and radio towers
« on: August 19, 2019, 05:23:02 PM »
Then you would see the fleet of stealth AWACS in the air.

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First of all the sun only rises from the east (90) at the equinoxes, if this was during the summer time the sun rises more like east/north east there.

And I am not familiar with the terrain there, but it looks like Jerusalem has hills in the sun rise direction.
That could delay the sunrise enough to have Tel Aviv Yafo beat it.
The globe stands, until some one has more details on the surrounding terrain of both cities.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What evidence is there that the earth is round
« on: August 19, 2019, 05:12:42 PM »
We took round images of the earth from space in spacecraft.
We can see (and radio hear) the very spacecrafts that took those images.
We can measure the altitude and speed of them too.
The earth is imaged round.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Mercury transit incoming 11th Nov 2019
« on: August 19, 2019, 05:10:06 PM »
The Venus transits were way better, but none of those for a while too.
I wonder if the FE people know the transits were used to measure the earth's distance to the sun, in the past.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Why are you debating on complex theories?
« on: August 19, 2019, 05:07:54 PM »
I sometimes go more complex, so show them something new.
So they can see whatever the details, it still comes out round.

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If you just use two locations, the answer can be the sun up at 4,000 over a flat earth, or a far sun with 4,000 mile radius earth.
But when you greatly increase the ground spacing, the radius earth stays consistent.
But the flat earth math on the triangles shows a lower sun height as, INCONSISTENT, so the FE model is flawed.

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Flat Earth General / Re: computerized telescope aiming question
« on: August 19, 2019, 05:01:52 PM »
The math for the telescope to figure out is all heliocentric calculus, and a lot of 3D math.
It has orbital elements of all the planets, including us, and all the moons too.
Some allow you plug in the orbit of a new comet and it will point to it.
I have old book from the 80's how to apply it, with just a scientific calculator.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Sun and moon size and probability
« on: August 19, 2019, 04:57:41 PM »
You also have to factor in all the other solar systems in the universe, then it is not that impossible for some solar systems.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Sun is neither a firing nor a spinning ball !
« on: August 19, 2019, 04:56:31 PM »
Did you try you camera on an equatorial mount, the counter acts the earth's rotation?
Then the sun will not twist, from your orientation changing on a rotating planet.
Then you will see those sunspots move across the sun in about 2 weeks.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Star maps prove earth globe.
« on: August 19, 2019, 04:53:03 PM »
Yep, I found a 2000 year old Chinese star map, and Polaris is off the pivot point by 12 degrees.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Sun and moon size and probability
« on: August 19, 2019, 04:49:01 PM »
They are not the same size, just close.

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The doc says its's a limited simulation. It was written in FORTRAN 77, which I used in the 80;s. They simplified the model of the earth, so it could run in real time back then.
..EQ..

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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: August 19, 2019, 04:45:07 PM »
No, why would we?

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