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Flat Earth General / Re: Do you believe the earth is flat?
« on: June 04, 2021, 12:27:36 PM »
Round earther after having spent several years in the military sailing all over everywhere.
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We only guess.
It takes an honest agent to answer.
Who dares to give such information? Please post.
Explaining the notable lack of whistle blowers seems more a question for flat earthers.
I have still problems understanding how a 'sphere earth' conspiracy could possibly work. I would like to have input from flat-earthers.If there really was some conspiracy going on I truly believe someone with knowledge would have ratted on the people involved by now, because in my experience at least, people LOVE to spill secrets. Even if it is just work gossip people always know your business, and some people love to let secrets out simply to see the shit hit the fan. Even when I was in the military people would sometimes let secrets out for no other reason then simple stupidity and procedure errors. Even if you did it anonymously, imagine blowing the lid off the biggest conspiracy ever and what would do for someone's ego. Plus, to keep this conspiracy going it would require such a large amount of people all over the world I just can't see how you could possibly keep all those involved in check and silent. It seems like that would be a full time job by itself. Even when people are paid to be quiet about whatever, how many times do we see dirt on some politician or celebrity made public online or in the news. This whole thing just doesn't work for me based on the logistics of it all..
How big is that conspiracy? Even if there are only a 'few' on top of the conspiracy, some people must fake a LOT of data. All images from space, from probes, telescopes, all the astronauts, all the rocket launches etc etc. There is so much that need to be faked. Or scientific results from planet observation, galaxies, black holes - all must be faked! That must be a lot of people!
Why haven't any of these people coming forth and told us the 'truth'? What do you think is going on? How are they kept in the conspiracy? Why don't they leave?
Also, there must be a recruitment process to get people in that conspiracy. How do you think that is working? Are they going to a physics post-doc and saying "oh by the way, all is fake. We need you to do these fakes", and the post doc is fine with that? Where can I sign up to join the conspiracy? How do you thin it all works?
Sending signal 23 000 miles up doesn't seem so strange if you look at the bigger picture.
Terrestrial TV diffusion stations use frequencies up to 890 MHz.
With a bandwith of 7 MHz per channel the number of channels is limited to pretty low number.
More and more stations introduced more and more programmes and expansion was needed.
Higher frequencies require denser distribution of more expensive repeaters and land broadcast price grows exponentially.
More repeaters also require more maintenance, which is also expensive.
For satellite broadcast the frequencies between 12 and 18 GHz were accepted.
Those frequencies behave almost like light and to cover as much as one single satellite can would require thousands of land repeaters.
And ground configuration would still leave many holes in coverage.
Satellite is significantly cheaper than thousands of repeaters, in addition to that requires no maintenance, and each of them covers almost a third of the globe.
While the delay makes no difference with TV (except the Interactive TV), with the Internet is diferent story.
Satellite internet has much longer ping.
Playing real time MMOs (Massibve Multiplayer Online games) loses all appeal when you have lag bigger than 30-60 milliseconds.
That is why people choose land link wherever they can.
But land Internet doesn't cover everything.
As several people already said, the Sat Internet is at some places the only choice.
You still could not explain why internet does not work in the middle of Oceans. And why isn't there a real photo of satellites? They are absent. Get stop to trying to deceive me. Are you claiming your being better than rabinoz that he his trying to deceive me since 3 years but could not achieved. Are you claiming your being better than rabinoz or is he insufficient?
It is your choice to believe me or not, I don't care. I don't generally believe I'm living a liar's lifestyle but I only make comments based on my own experiences in the military and life in general.Prove what you say. because globularists constantly say lie as a life style.When I was in the Navy we had internet access on the ship out in the middle of the ocean from a satellite dish aimed at the sky. There were no land signals.In many aeroplane there is WIFI available for passenger wheret it is get internet directly fromsatellite.But why it is not available for us. Why using BTS tower that needs to dig up the ground for fiber optics connection to work.
Because so called satellites are actually land based transmission station. The reason for the internet working on plane is still the ground station. The internet does not work on the ocean even if you are on the plane. therefore, planes prefer to stay in close contact with the ground station by entering close to land. otherwise they may disappear from the radar and fall. history is full of bitter experiences of this choice.
When I was in the Navy we had internet access on the ship out in the middle of the ocean from a satellite dish aimed at the sky. There were no land signals.In many aeroplane there is WIFI available for passenger wheret it is get internet directly fromsatellite.But why it is not available for us. Why using BTS tower that needs to dig up the ground for fiber optics connection to work.
Because so called satellites are actually land based transmission station. The reason for the internet working on plane is still the ground station. The internet does not work on the ocean even if you are on the plane. therefore, planes prefer to stay in close contact with the ground station by entering close to land. otherwise they may disappear from the radar and fall. history is full of bitter experiences of this choice.
If the earth is flat, then the conspiracy of politicians, scientists, astronomers, astronauts, space agencies, engineers, computer scientists, geoscientists, etc etc must be really really large.
But how do people get in this 'conspiracy'? How do people become 'part' of it? Will men in black show up and force you into it? And if there is a scientist interested in the truth, trying to do serious research - is he being told (when reaching a senior position) that all is a lie and now he/she must continue to lie? To create fake images, fake data?
How does this work?
It would have to be incredibly irritating to have to deal with reporters in your face like that all the time.So he has a right to punch.Yes. If someone is continually harassing you and following you around, you have the right to defend yourself, even if it requires the use of physical force.
I have one question about the flat earth....Something has been bugging me and I want to understand....So, on a flat earth when a boat goes over the horizon or out of view you can look through a telescope and it reappears....So when the sun goes below the horizon or out of view can we see it through a telescope??Having watched many ships and objects appear and disappear over the horizon I can assure you they do not reappear with binoculars or a high powered military telescope.
The navy or air force is part of the conspriacy. On the other hand, there are foldings on the uneven surface of the Earth, which corrects the difference.I'm former US Navy with a security clearance. I do not know of, and I'm not part of a conspiracy, and I don't believe the Navy is hiding any information on the shape of the earth. What would be the point. Why has no one ever come forth with proof of the conspiracy? We use GPS and satellites to navigate the ship, and perform combat operations. The dishes and other equipment we use for information and other functions are pointed at the sky at satellites because the earth is round.