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Flat Earth General / Re: Virgin Galactic
« on: July 30, 2020, 04:24:51 PM »


Even Round Earthers cant get their facts together.
In fact, 'zero G' is impossible
You mean shifter can't get its fact's straight?

zero g - noun:
the state or condition in which there is no apparent force of gravity acting on a body, either because the force is locally weak, or because both the body and its surroundings are freely and equally accelerating under the force.

Alternatively:
Weightlessness is the complete or near-complete absence of the sensation of weight. This is also termed zero-G

free fall is zero g.
It is where you do not feel weight.

Do you also object when people say things like a 3 g turn?
You still experience the same ~1 g of gravity during the 3 g turn, but the overall force you feel is not 1 g.

Why call it something that it isn't?
Who says they are?
The question is what does the "g" mean?
You assume it means gravity.
But it is also quite well known as a g-force, a unit of measure of a force per unit mass applied to or experienced by a body (rather than exerted all over the body such as from gravity) where 1 g is a force which will result in an acceleration of 9.8 m/s^2 on that body.

There is always a g force acting on a body where ever it is in the universe. I don't care how infinitesimal, the number is not zero.

That alien babe in the Andromeda galaxy billions of years ago? Every one of her pelvic thrusts as she makes sweet love to her man produces gravitational waves that pull you in. Sure that hulking TON-608 Black Hole has a tad more influence but the number is not zero.

"Aside from water, no truly calorie-free food or drinks exist. Why do so many things say they have zero calories, then? The FDA legally allows manufacturers to label anything with less than five calories as having zero calories."

Marketing. Ever heard of it?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Virgin Galactic
« on: July 30, 2020, 01:35:15 PM »
Go scuba diving. Same weightless experience and for way longer and much better scenery (also a hell of a lot cheaper)

Being underwater is similar, but NOT the same weightless experience.  Different environments, and being in water is not the same as being in microgravity in orbit, or free fall in a Vomit Comet. When scuba diving gravity is still tugging at your body in water, blood still rushes to your head when you go upside down. There are plenty of differences.  Divers can still feel the effects of gravity, even if it's easy to get confused.

Just because you have no interest doesn't mean others don't.  I'd love to go into space or on a Vomit Comet, the both sound like fascinating experiences.

It's obviously not the same but its a cost/benefit ratio.

$250K for 16 minutes of floating inside some fuselage with a bunch of morons trying to take selfies....

Or a few hundred dollars to maybe a bit over $1000 and spend hours swimming among gorgeous coral reefs and marine wildlife



Different people have different personal cost/benefit ratios. You've made it clear what yours is. Your's does not apply to everyone.

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I am still feeling a bit shocked that Herman Cain died from the corona.

I know me too when I read it but I'm not sure why. Maybe because he's the first really prominent GOPr' to have not just contracted it, but died from it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: CAD
« on: July 30, 2020, 12:53:11 PM »
I may end up forming my own anti-dinosaur group.

That's the spirit!

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Flat Earth General / Re: Virgin Galactic
« on: July 30, 2020, 12:52:21 PM »
Wrong.

Zero G is just another term for weightlessness, not the complete absence of a gravitational field:

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Weightlessness is the complete or near-complete absence of the sensation of weight. This is also termed zero-G, although the more correct term is "zero G-force". It occurs in the absence of any contact forces upon objects including the human body.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlessness

If you’re going to be a pedant, you should check your facts first.


Sounds like a pretty crappy term then. Why not call it weightlessness? Why call it something that it isn't? Tell me a place in the universe where there is 'zero G' then. Because to me the concept of zero G is utter nonsense.

Because it's shorter, catchier, and conveys what the sensation of weightlessness is like. I.e., marketing. Secondly, who cares what it's called? Why does that even remotely matter? The point is, if this ever happens, rich folks can experience weightlessness for up to 5 minutes. You get about 30 seconds max in the Vomit Comet.

Fools and their money are easily parted.

So for $250K You get to go to 110km high. Roughly 1/4 the distance to the alleged ISS

At that height, the horizon would be a tad under 1200km. For reference, a plane at 12km high, the horizon is just shy of 400km. So you see 3x greater distance. WOW!!!!

Oh and you get to float around like a fish for 16 minutes. GROOVY!

I guess no ones heard of scuba diving?

So I'm to take it that the Galactic offering is something you are not interested in. And you would prefer to apply your $250k elsewhere. Excellent. I'll make sure Virgin takes you off their mailing list so you won't be bothered by them any longer.

Do you actually have something to contribute or do you just want to vent that you personally think it's a dumb way to spend money? Because it seems no one is dragging you kicking and screaming and stuffing you into a Galactic ship and shooting you up in the air against your will when all you want to do is scuba dive.

It's a scam.

You dont experience 'zero G' as rvlvr believes and the name of the plane 'Galactic' is a little misleading seeing as it only skims the boundary of what is called space.

Vomit Comet marketing, "The ZERO-G Experience® is an amazing opportunity to experience true weightlessness."

Does that make their offering a scam too? And the name of the plane makes it a scam? The name? Again, no one is forcing you to take part, especially if you feel it's a scam because you dislike the marketing.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« on: July 30, 2020, 12:45:39 PM »
According Wikipedia a conspiracy theory is an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable.

My website is not about conspiracy theories. It is about safety at sea and some strange incidents of ships sinking for mysterious reasons and not simple loss of buoyancy due to sabotage. The people investigating the incidents at sea were just paid to hide the real cause.

I have added some other mysteries like nuclear weapons that do not work since 1945, actors playing asstronuts in space since 1958, towers that collapse at NYC due to Arabs landing planes in the tops 2001 and this virus killing all of us right now, etc. Only idiots believe in these matters due to simple manipulations of their brains.  No conspiracy at all.

PS – The solution to protect yourself against the virus is to carry a mask and to get vaccinated.

Are you high?

Everything on your site fits the definition of conspiracy theories to a tee?

9/11 - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group
Apollo - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group
A-Bombs - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group
Virus -The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group

How is your interpretation even remotely different than the definition?

Well, A-bombs were invented to stop WW2 in the Far East 1945 allowing the Japanese emperor to remain on the throne. It was a US/Japan agreement and not really a sinister conspiracy. It stopped a war. But nukes became good biz afterwards.
Apollo 1969 was just to make JFK happy and to entertain the Americans. Not a sinister conspiracy. It was good Hollywood entertainment with rockets taking off, etc.
911 2001! Well the towers were full of asbestos, worthless and thus blown up. It was a typical insurance fraud! Not a sinister conspiracy. And a good excuse for USA to attack Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc. Happens all the time!
The VIRUS 2020? Plenty politicians/experts scare us that we will all die due to it. But where I live the hospital is empty and all is almost normal and I haven't seen any virus. But I agree, media reports that many other countries are hard hit and all people there will die there soon. Conspiracy? I wonder what the purpose can be? Sell vaccine?
Anyway, don't call me a conspiracy theorist.

Like I said before, you fit the absolute and pure definition of a conspiracy theorist.

9/11 - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group = conspiracy theory
Apollo - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group = conspiracy theory
A-Bombs - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group = conspiracy theory
Virus -The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group = conspiracy theory

For instance:

"Moon landing conspiracy theories claim that some or all elements of the Apollo program and the associated Moon landings were hoaxes staged by NASA, possibly with the aid of other organizations."

"The most prominent conspiracy theory is that the collapse of the Twin Towers and 7 World Trade Center were the result of controlled demolitions rather than structural failure due to impact and fire."

See? Conspiracy theories. Period.

There is literally no way around not being one. Sorry, but you've chosen this path and your only path has been that the official story of any of these is perpetuated by a group that has to be very powerful, for sinister reasons or otherwise, to hide and keep hidden from the entire worlds population what you think the real truth is. Meaning, you are a 200%, through and through, a conspiracy theorist.
No conspiracies
9/11 - Insurance fraud by a powerful group = pure crime. USA/GWB attacks terrorists at  Afghanistan and Iraq and loses. US experts think top of structures can drop and make bottom into dust.
Apollo - Hollywood style entertainment ordered by Potus JFK = pure nonsense.
A-Bombs - Propaganda to quickly stop the war in the Far East 1945 = good military tactic. USA forgot to call it off.
Virus - known experts think it will kill us all - 100% - pandemic style while in reality 99.98% survives = the experts are wrong.

An interesting treatise on Conspiracy Theories and Theorists from MIT. I think this was written about you. "25 Questions and Answers about the Atomic Bomb":

1. Is there any evidence that a thermonuclear device exploded over Hiroshima in 1945?
No, absolutely none. According to leading historians and physicists, the thermonuclear bomb was not invented until years after the supposed detonation over Japanese territory.

2. Is there any evidence that a uranium-based "atom bomb" was ever dropped onto Nagasaki, Japan?
Absolutely not. While many historians and journalists made this claim in the late 40's and early 50's, everyone now agrees that no such bomb ever exploded over Nagasaki. Yet there are some who still stubbornly cling to this supposed "fact."

3. What are the materials needed to make an "atom bomb?"
Uranium-238 and plutonium-239.

4. Aren't these materials radioactive?
Highly so. Anybody who attempts to use these materials is endangering his/her life.

5. Is it likely that nuclear scientists in the 40's would be handling uranium and plutonium?
This would be highly unlikely. Very few people felt so threatened by the Japanese to be willing to risk their lives on a theoretical chance of a superbomb that could end a far-away war a little sooner.

6. Aren't there witnesses to the atomic bomb in Hiroshima?
The only "witnesses" that could possibly survived this supposed explosion would have been blinded by the intense flash of light, so their testimony is quite unreliable and contradictory.

7. According to conventional historians, was the uranium bomb tested before supposedly being dropped over Hiroshima?
No. There was no testing whatsoever of a uranium bomb in Alamogordo or anywhere else before Hiroshima.

8. Isn't that strange?
Yes. Typical weapons are tested for months and years before deployment; there is no other weapon that according to the accepted "facts" deployed before any testing whatsoever.

9. How many witnesses are there for all of the atomic tests allegedly occuring during the fifties and sixties?
Very few, perhaps a few hundred, who claimed to have seen them.

10. What did the General Advisory Committee of the Atomic Energy Commission say in their report of October 30, 1949?
They recommended strongly against the development of what they called the "Super Bomb," which is simply a thermonuclear bomb. They said that "A super bomb might become a weapon of genocide."

11. Isn't this four years after Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Yes. Obviously development of nuclear weapons occurred well after their supposed implementation in 1945.

12. Is radioactivity dangerous?
Everything is radioactive to some extent.

13. What was the triggering method of the bomb that supposedly was dropped on Hiroshima?
According to the standard historical accounts, it used a gun-assembly trigger.

14. Wasn't the gun-assembly method of triggering abandoned in the design stage?
Yes; according to these same sources the gun method would not work with uranium-derived plutonium-239 because some of the plutonium-239 absorbs a neutron to become plutonium-240, which undergoes spontaneous fission, all before supercriticality, causing a premature and very small explosion that is unusable for the very purpose that it was supposedly designed for!

15. How do conventional historians rectify these two "facts?"
They don't even attempt to.

16. How many books have been written about the atomic bomb?
Many hundreds, as well as thousands of articles in magazines and newspapers.

17. Why was Hiroshima "targeted," and not Tokyo?
Perhaps because no one had heard of Hiroshima, and no one knew anyone from there. It would be far more difficult to claim that Tokyo was bombed than Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In fact, most world maps from before "World War Two" do not even mention these cities at all.

18. How does Japan benefit from the "atom bomb" story?
As a direct result of the "war," Japan has received billions of dollars worth of US aid for its defense. Japan has essentially no defense budget, so it can pour resources through MITI into defeating the US economically, all while playing on the emotions of anti-"nuke" activists about the "horrors" of nuclear weapons.

19. Wow, I never thought of that. How else do the Japanese benefit from this story?
The Japanese now own major Hollywood studios, from which many war movies are produced. Also, they play upon our sympathy for the supposed "atom bomb" to blind us to the fact that this foreign nation has taken over our semiconductor industry, many California banks and practically the entire state of Hawaii.
This is all a part of the Japanese plot to take over the world. According to the "Protocols of the Elders of the Orient," this is a Japanese conspiracy all foretold by their ancient texts that very few Anglo-Saxons have the ability to read.

19. How many people are supposed to have died in the explosions?
It is hard to say. Some sources say 60,000 in Hiroshima, others say 140,000. No attempt has been made to rectify the various numbers.

20. How many people die annually from car accidents in the US?
Over 50,000.

21. So, what makes Hiroshima so special?
Nothing, especially given the contradictory evidence about it.

22. Boy, I'm mad. What should I do about this?
Glad you asked. First, send me lots of money so we can spread this message far and wide. Maybe we'll take out ads in college newspapers or something.
Second, direct your anger at the Japanese. We are the victims, and they are the aggressors. Make yourself feel important again by bashing Japan at every opportunity. Japanese people are inherently evil, and basically subhuman. They were never bombed, and if they would have been they would have deserved it. Who do they think they are, anyway?
Yes, we Revisionists have all the answers. Life is a lot simpler than you thought it was. Join us, and you won't have to be bothered anymore by any feelings of guilt for your inherent hatred. We can justify it! Oh, it's not the Japanese you hate, but the crippled? Hey - so do we! It's easy: we don't like feeling uncomfortable around people in wheelchairs, either! Who do they think they are, taking all the good parking spaces when they were stupid enough to slip on a banana peel? IT'S A CONSPIRACY! --See how easy it is to start? Now, just mix in a few real facts, and start converting all of the otherwise messed-up people to OUR CAUSE!

23. Wow! You mean that I could write stuff like this, too?
Sure! It's embarrasingly easy to write what we wrote above. In fact, it's even superior to the usual anti-Semitic revisionist garbage, because it has a higher percentage of REAL FACTS! Most of the apparent "contradictions" above come from the facts that Nagasaki was bombed by a plutonium bomb, not uranium; and that hydrogen bombs are thermonuclear, not atomic bombs. Just juggle information about the different types of bombs and mix them up so they seem to be contradicting each other. It doesn't take ANY INTELLIGENCE WHATSOEVER, and you can get lots of free air time on "48 Hours"!
Oh, I forgot to mention: I have a Japanese girlfriend who agrees with EVERY WORD I've written above. Here she is:
"Yes, I am his Japanese girlfriend. I love him very much, and I've always been troubled by my Japanese friends claiming to know people who died in Hiroshima."
There you have it! Just throw some unverifiable opinions on top of ridiculous proofs to STRENGTHEN YOUR CASE!

24. Couldn't I be arrested for this?
No! This country is founded on FREE SPEECH! But, just make sure that you mention how much you are being persecuted for saying your version of history. (More than three email messages a day qualify for being called harrassment. Five may merit a lawsuit.)

25. Where can I get more information?
Go to a library. Take a book at random. Skim it. Then, decide how that book is either for you or against you. If it is for you, quote liberally and out of context. If against you, do the same.
DON'T LET YOURSELF GET CONFUSED BY THE FACTS! We certainly don't!

https://stuff.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/netsam/revisionist_history.html

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Perseverence
« on: July 30, 2020, 12:39:00 PM »
Yeah. Doesn't Mars look beautiful?







I agree, the Mars photos do look beautiful. Those aren't Mars, though they look nice too. The real Mars photos are amazing. You should check them out.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Virgin Galactic
« on: July 30, 2020, 12:34:15 PM »
Wrong.

Zero G is just another term for weightlessness, not the complete absence of a gravitational field:

Quote
Weightlessness is the complete or near-complete absence of the sensation of weight. This is also termed zero-G, although the more correct term is "zero G-force". It occurs in the absence of any contact forces upon objects including the human body.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlessness

If you’re going to be a pedant, you should check your facts first.


Sounds like a pretty crappy term then. Why not call it weightlessness? Why call it something that it isn't? Tell me a place in the universe where there is 'zero G' then. Because to me the concept of zero G is utter nonsense.

Because it's shorter, catchier, and conveys what the sensation of weightlessness is like. I.e., marketing. Secondly, who cares what it's called? Why does that even remotely matter? The point is, if this ever happens, rich folks can experience weightlessness for up to 5 minutes. You get about 30 seconds max in the Vomit Comet.

Fools and their money are easily parted.

So for $250K You get to go to 110km high. Roughly 1/4 the distance to the alleged ISS

At that height, the horizon would be a tad under 1200km. For reference, a plane at 12km high, the horizon is just shy of 400km. So you see 3x greater distance. WOW!!!!

Oh and you get to float around like a fish for 16 minutes. GROOVY!

I guess no ones heard of scuba diving?

So I'm to take it that the Galactic offering is something you are not interested in. And you would prefer to apply your $250k elsewhere. Excellent. I'll make sure Virgin takes you off their mailing list so you won't be bothered by them any longer.

Do you actually have something to contribute or do you just want to vent that you personally think it's a dumb way to spend money? Because it seems no one is dragging you kicking and screaming and stuffing you into a Galactic ship and shooting you up in the air against your will when all you want to do is scuba dive.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Where exactly is it?
« on: July 30, 2020, 12:26:41 PM »
Such a minor role in fact that he is credited with laying down the foundations of modern observational astronomy.  Such a minor role that the modern refracting telescope is named after him in recognition of his observations of the satellites of Jupiter.
Did you know that Galileo had spent the last years of his life as a convinced geocentrist :

An interesting story, you should read about from actual historians not from hacks, from UCLA, "The truth about Galileo and his conflict with the Catholic Church":

https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/the-truth-about-galileo-and-his-conflict-with-the-catholic-church

As well, mentioned many, many times to you, science did not just all of a sudden stop in the 1600's. Bring your schtick up to date.

All the other stuff in your post is just your same regurgitation copy/paste un-cited & plagiarized cherry-picked quote walls of whatever that have already been poured over at length elsewhere. Bottomline, a boring and needless rehash of no relevance.

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Flat Earth General / Re: CAD
« on: July 30, 2020, 12:08:34 PM »
The idea that dinosaurs existed is as silly as the beliefs of the greeks that cyclops existed.  This is what happens when you pick out bones and try to stitch them together in a piltdown.

You should join CAD. Your argument seems to be right in line with their parody offerings.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Virgin Galactic
« on: July 30, 2020, 12:05:30 PM »
Wrong.

Zero G is just another term for weightlessness, not the complete absence of a gravitational field:

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Weightlessness is the complete or near-complete absence of the sensation of weight. This is also termed zero-G, although the more correct term is "zero G-force". It occurs in the absence of any contact forces upon objects including the human body.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlessness

If you’re going to be a pedant, you should check your facts first.


Sounds like a pretty crappy term then. Why not call it weightlessness? Why call it something that it isn't? Tell me a place in the universe where there is 'zero G' then. Because to me the concept of zero G is utter nonsense.

Because it's shorter, catchier, and conveys what the sensation of weightlessness is like. I.e., marketing. Secondly, who cares what it's called? Why does that even remotely matter? The point is, if this ever happens, rich folks can experience weightlessness for up to 5 minutes. You get about 30 seconds max in the Vomit Comet.

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Flat Earth General / Re: CAD
« on: July 30, 2020, 09:46:34 AM »
I've recently been corresponding via online forum with some of those in Christians Against Dinosaurs. I have to admit their view is refreshingly zetetic. Has anyone else had any experiences with them?
I watched one of the vids and found as you said, it was "refreshingly zetetic". I've never studied zeteticism, but said to my self "now that is zetetetic" if i remember correctly.

Seriously? Ok, here's one of their refreshingly zetetic videos. It constitutes a guy from CAD googling "Dinosaur Sex" and remarking on the links that came back as a result. There's nothing refreshing or zetetic about it. You decide:


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Avoiding answering my questions proves that you know that what you are defending is wrong. You are afraid you will get stuck in the corner, right?

Okay. Everybody. First grade classroom question: "Can a wheel work without torque?"

To follow along with Sok's post regarding the OneWheel skateboard, here's the motor inside the wheel:



And here's one in action. I see them all around my city:


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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« on: July 29, 2020, 09:33:14 PM »
According Wikipedia a conspiracy theory is an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable.

My website is not about conspiracy theories. It is about safety at sea and some strange incidents of ships sinking for mysterious reasons and not simple loss of buoyancy due to sabotage. The people investigating the incidents at sea were just paid to hide the real cause.

I have added some other mysteries like nuclear weapons that do not work since 1945, actors playing asstronuts in space since 1958, towers that collapse at NYC due to Arabs landing planes in the tops 2001 and this virus killing all of us right now, etc. Only idiots believe in these matters due to simple manipulations of their brains.  No conspiracy at all.

PS – The solution to protect yourself against the virus is to carry a mask and to get vaccinated.

Are you high?

Everything on your site fits the definition of conspiracy theories to a tee?

9/11 - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group
Apollo - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group
A-Bombs - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group
Virus -The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group

How is your interpretation even remotely different than the definition?

Well, A-bombs were invented to stop WW2 in the Far East 1945 allowing the Japanese emperor to remain on the throne. It was a US/Japan agreement and not really a sinister conspiracy. It stopped a war. But nukes became good biz afterwards.
Apollo 1969 was just to make JFK happy and to entertain the Americans. Not a sinister conspiracy. It was good Hollywood entertainment with rockets taking off, etc.
911 2001! Well the towers were full of asbestos, worthless and thus blown up. It was a typical insurance fraud! Not a sinister conspiracy. And a good excuse for USA to attack Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc. Happens all the time!
The VIRUS 2020? Plenty politicians/experts scare us that we will all die due to it. But where I live the hospital is empty and all is almost normal and I haven't seen any virus. But I agree, media reports that many other countries are hard hit and all people there will die there soon. Conspiracy? I wonder what the purpose can be? Sell vaccine?
Anyway, don't call me a conspiracy theorist.

Like I said before, you fit the absolute and pure definition of a conspiracy theorist.

9/11 - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group = conspiracy theory
Apollo - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group = conspiracy theory
A-Bombs - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group = conspiracy theory
Virus -The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group = conspiracy theory

For instance:

"Moon landing conspiracy theories claim that some or all elements of the Apollo program and the associated Moon landings were hoaxes staged by NASA, possibly with the aid of other organizations."

"The most prominent conspiracy theory is that the collapse of the Twin Towers and 7 World Trade Center were the result of controlled demolitions rather than structural failure due to impact and fire."

See? Conspiracy theories. Period.

There is literally no way around not being one. Sorry, but you've chosen this path and your only path has been that the official story of any of these is perpetuated by a group that has to be very powerful, for sinister reasons or otherwise, to hide and keep hidden from the entire worlds population what you think the real truth is. Meaning, you are a 200%, through and through, a conspiracy theorist.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 29, 2020, 04:57:57 PM »
What god forsaken mailing list did you get yourself on?
These are the loonies that are peddling the Trump-Reagan coin. And other coins. And lots of MAGA gear and stuff. Self-identified CONSERVATIVE PATRIOTS that love their country and viciously want to defend it from the RADICAL LEFTIST SOCIALIST something-or-other. And I filled out their "Nancy Pelosi is a TRAITOR" poll again today and in a surprising turn of events that actually wasn't surprising at all, it still had exactly the same number of respondents and the exact same 70%/30% totally-real voter split.

On one hand, I'm looking forward to unsubscribing when I get the coin because the people running that site are preying on bat-shit loony people and squeezing as much money as they can out of them by using fear to get an emotional response. On the other hand, it's also fucking hilarious to read.

What a wacky world we live in. But yeah, the comedic fodder in that email was overflowing. I had to look up hypnotherapist Scott Adams. He's the Dilbert cartoon guy. He apolitically predicted Trump would win 2016. Why they reference him in the email, I have no idea. But I love the fact that they made sure to point out he was a 'trained' hypnotherapist as opposed to, I guess, a self-taught one? The whole reference is so obscure and absurd it reads like a python sketch.

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Unless it's an out-and-out landslide victory it will be immediately contested and we'll get into the whole hanging chad thing and a supreme court ruling. If after that, he still has lost, he and his supporters will still claim rigging and there will be protests like in 2016. The scary part is libs aren't really the taking up of arms types so I have no idea what conservative protests would be like.

The twist in all this is what if the Senate goes Dem too. Will that make it better, easier to transition as the majority of America is decidedly leaning away from the current agenda and people will accept that? Or will it just pour more fuel of the fire of unrest.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Where exactly is it?
« on: July 29, 2020, 04:36:30 PM »
Quote
Do you understand the difference?

Yes thank you. I understand enough to know what is moving when I look through a non-tracking telescope and see a star move through the FOV.

The original question asked where to do flat Earthers get their information from to substantiate their beliefs. Particularly with regard to astronomy.  As an amateur astronomer of over 40 years experience this intrigues me as well.  Outside of the FE Wiki information about flat Earth seems to be a bit thin on the ground to say the least. Reading through the Wiki itself I can find so many holes in it I could water my garden with it. And then of course there is that book by one Samuel Rowbotham written in the mid 19th century that you all seem to love so much.  'It has been proved...' 'It has been shown...'  when it comes to the Earth being flat.   Really??  How and when exactly has it been shown that the Sun is just a few thousand miles above the Earth surface>

If you are going to make the Earth flat then you introduce all sorts of problems. Problems which to my mind don't actually exist because the shape of the Earth has already and long ago been established.  Ancient flat Earth belief can be excused to a degree because of the limited sources of information available back then.  There was a much greater reliance on direct observation.  But with modern technology and the data that has given us, there really is no excuse.

Flat Earthers are quick to dismiss astronomy but they don't seem to be very forthcoming about providing their own evidence.  So come on guys....  to repeat the OP question:  Where exactly is it?  Flat Earth belief is just another conspiracy theory and nothing more than that.

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Earth actually rotates through 360 degrees once every ~23 hours 56 minutes and 4.1 seconds.
If you follow a distant star (i.e. not the sun), that is how long it takes for it to return to its old position.
The sun, on average, takes 24 hours, because Earth is moving in its orbit as well.

I know. The sidereal day is 3m 56s shorter than the solar day and that is why we have seasonal changes in the stars. It is also a very useful piece of evidence for an orbiting Earth which debunks the flat Earth belief that the Earth is stationary. When we put the clocks back or forward one hour we move the sky forward or back by 56 minutes over night.

If the OP question is simply, where does FE get their evidence from, that could have been answered 3 pages ago, perhaps in no particular order:

- YT - Same for RE
- Publications - Like ENAG and others
- Forums
- Conventions
- Observations/experimentation

Why all this other stuff is coming up, I'm not sure. I guess the point of the question was to tease out what isn't used for evidence; 70 years of space exploration, thousands of years of Globe centric experimentation/observation, 500 hundred years of tested Helio theory and a bevy of scientific data/technology/travel methodologies we have come to rely on in the modern era. If that's what the OP is looking for, there you have it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: July 29, 2020, 03:08:10 PM »
OMG this was too hilarious not to share. I'll try and get all the pictures and formatting right so you can see this incredible email.

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boydster,

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Their next scam is to force every American to take a "Vaccine" that has been pushed by Bill Gates.

(Why is a TECH mogul helping to configure a VACCINE?)

​Something is going on here folks...

If Democrats take control this November, this Coronavirus Pandemic would ACCELERATE and they'd use it against us even more.

I know we all think Trump is going to win the 2020 election, but there are no guarantees in this world.

If Joe Biden were to get elected, all hell would break loose and scenes like THIS would become commonplace (and likely ENCOURAGED by Biden) 👇👇👇👇



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And most importantly, CONSERVATIVES wouldn't matter.

Trained hypnotherapist Scott Adams said if Biden were to get elected, it would be 'open season' on Trump supporters.

Now...I can't say I completely agree with this sentiment, but sadly I can't guarantee that it wouldn't happen.

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I was having a hard time processing this and then got to, "Trained hypnotherapist Scott Adams said if Biden were to get elected, it would be 'open season' on Trump supporters." Funniest thing I've read all week.

What god forsaken mailing list did you get yourself on?

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Hahahah, I like how you defend John McCain. McCain was the founding fucking father of Neocons. One group I hate more then liberals are the fucking neocons. Talking about greed and lack of morals, look no further then a Neocon. Trump is a hero cause he ended their fucking asses.

I'm not defending John McCain. I was personally against 9/10's of his policies. What I'm pointing out is that I value and honor his service spending some 5 years as a POW with an opportunity to be released a year early, but passed because he wouldn't proclaim any allegiance to the Viet Cong and wouldn't leave his fellow American captives behind. 5 years! And DJT, who with his military draft deferments totaling five times — once for bad feet and four times for college, had the gall to say about McCain: "He’s not a war hero, he was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured."

If you want to align yourself with that sort of Trumpian lack of humanity, have at it. But you're essentially a sociopath. And an ignorant one at that. Which is good for the rest of us because as you stumble all over your unaware zero empathy for your fellow mankind rants, real humans get real things done for the rest of humanity. In other words, you pose no threat because you're irrelevant and dismissed as a fringe crackpot.

Trump refused to lower the flag for John McCain to half mast too going against the custom. What a petty SOB

He also called Senator Lindsay Graham who rose to the rank of colonel a 'disgrace' for questioning his abilities

He called 4 star general John Allen a 'failed general' only because John Allen lent his support to Hillary Clinton

And he also attacked the family of slain soldier Captain Humayun Khan

An interview with Chris Wallace asked what he thought of retired Admiral William McRaven, who was a former Navy Seal behind the mission that killed Osama Bin Laden.All he could say upon hearing the name was “Hilary Clinton Fan.” When Wallace went on Trump interrupted,  “Excuse me: Hilary. Clinton. Fan.”

Trump said of retired 4 star general Stanley McChrystal who led US forces in Afghanistan between 2009 and 2010 "was fired by former President Barack Obama 'like a dog'." And that he was a "Hilary Clinton lover", and he was known for his “big dumb mouth.”

Trump said of Democratic Seth Moulton, who served as a marine in Iraq, “You remain a frickin’ coward” when Moulton dropped out of the race to be the next Democrat presidential candidate.

Trump said last year that Jim Mattis, a retired four-star general was, “the world’s most overrated general,” after also saying Mattis wasn’t tough enough.

Bill Taylor, the US’s chief envoy to Ukraine was called a 'Never Trumper' which Trump later clarified to mean 'human scum'

He also called the Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a Purple Heart recipient a 'Never Trumper'. In Trumps eyes, this Purple heart recipient is human scum


What kind of President!? :o :o :o

I forgot about all of those. What a nauseating list. He is a petty sob with zero sense of dignity or honor.

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« on: July 29, 2020, 02:55:53 PM »
Prediction: cikljamas will lay low for a bit. Then he'll find some other completely unrelated video (think lemmings on Mars) and post that. Hoping to deflect from all of the maths he doesn't understand and deflect from all of the other topics where he has been mercilessly defeated in this thread.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Where exactly is it?
« on: July 29, 2020, 02:51:46 PM »
Debates normally work by each side presenting their evidence, to date you have presented none.
That's the second time you've said that, and it's no more an absolute truth now than it was before. And you still refuse to own your mistake so it hardly makes sense to engage in any sort of debate with you.

But you haven't even attempted to enter into a debate, in regards to the opening question as your main interest for some reason is to attack me! What's the point in that? Present your views so others can know what they are then we can move forward. What do you think? are you willing to share your own views on the OP?

I'm kinda mystified as to what exactly your question/argument is. I think you want to know where FEr's get their evidence from. And the example you brought forth as your evidence for an RE proof were a couple of YT videos. So in your example, your RE source was YT. The same place as where a lot of people gather "evidence", both FE and RE. So does that answer your question?

And as far as the YT proofs you shared, the point a bunch of us have been raising is they are not proof, or even evidence, of RE on their own. Like I said before, I believe there are myriad pieces of evidence absolutely in favor of RE, but your YT vids are not part of that cache of evidence. Why is that so hard to understand?

Not to mention the irony here. Your wrote in response to CB:

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The question is where exactly do flat earthers get their information from?

Youtube

Youtube!.....now that’s hardly a well of scientific knowledge is it. I suppose I should have said verifiable.

Yet the "proof" you put forth for RE were from YouTube.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« on: July 29, 2020, 01:16:48 AM »
Another oddity



0:20

We hear both sound and explosion in same time. Isn't sound slower?

How is it an oddity? Do you think the tense music was playing somewhere, somehow, in the background when the footage was shot? The music, boom, jet sounds, all added to the footage. Otherwise it would be just a silent reel, not overly captivating, except visually.

And visually, yeah, that's a mighty huge explosion that Heiwa thinks can come from a chemical bomb of some sort. Though he has never presented any evidence of what could make a non-atomic bomb look as horrifically massive as footage like this.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« on: July 29, 2020, 12:27:02 AM »
According Wikipedia a conspiracy theory is an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable.

My website is not about conspiracy theories. It is about safety at sea and some strange incidents of ships sinking for mysterious reasons and not simple loss of buoyancy due to sabotage. The people investigating the incidents at sea were just paid to hide the real cause.

I have added some other mysteries like nuclear weapons that do not work since 1945, actors playing asstronuts in space since 1958, towers that collapse at NYC due to Arabs landing planes in the tops 2001 and this virus killing all of us right now, etc. Only idiots believe in these matters due to simple manipulations of their brains.  No conspiracy at all.

PS – The solution to protect yourself against the virus is to carry a mask and to get vaccinated.

Are you high?

Everything on your site fits the definition of conspiracy theories to a tee?

9/11 - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group
Apollo - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group
A-Bombs - The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group
Virus -The official story is a lie perpetuated by a powerful group

How is your interpretation even remotely different than the definition?

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Please, quote me correctly.
I just claim that ships float on their hulls and that a damage of the hull may cause sinking. I can easily sink any ship just by opening the valves in the bottom and flood the hull.
And I have worked in shipping since 1969. You sound like another sick loser of my Challenge (topic).

Yes, first fantasy cause of incident (announced by the government) was fire on the car deck in the superstructure on top of the hull and below the deck house with >1000 passengers. To stop the fire the manual sprinkler system was started by the crew. Then the scuppers were blocked by garbage on the deck so the sprinkler water could not escape from the car deck. So the ship, with intact hull, just capsized and sank. Just like Estonia 1994 after losing the bow visor. Water on the car deck, capsize and fast sinking. With intact hull.
There is no evidence of any water on the car decks of either ships! A ship cannot sink with an intact hull.
So in both cases the hull was damaged by sabotage ... and the ships sank.
And in both cases the ship owners could collect insurances, etc, etc. Only in the Egyptian case it was a little different. Suddenly my owner friend was sentenced to go to jail ... so he retired at London.


There quoted you correctly.  Emphasis Added.


You're a scary individual. I can see why no one would hire you for any sort of safety at sea sort of contract. You claim that ships can't sink without a hull breach. Yet ships have sunk without a hull breach. I have nothing to do with safety at see or ship design, yet I can poke immediate holes in your hyperbole. Who would hire you? You're a potential menace to maritime engineering. It's really no wonder your hull design was dashed. You literally have no idea what you're talking about, so much so, that a layman can pick out how batshit crazy and off you are.


Sounds about right.
No.

There is no no about it.  That's what you wrote.  Face reality.
No. You have to read (if you can) what I say, think (if you can) about it, and then comment (if you can) about it.  Face reality.

Nope.  Ships can sink without damaging the hull.  You are wrong.  Face Reality.
Try just to read what I say. Of course ships with intact hull sink when I open the bottom valves. Now try to win €1M - see post #1.

I sunk a canoe once in some rapids because I took on too much water. No valves involved and the hull was intact. You are wrong. And anyone can see that. And you're supposed to be the safety at sea expert? It's amazing you weren't sentenced by Egypt along with buddy. Maybe you were and have been hiding out in France ever since?
I am sure your canoe just capsized and you dropped out. The canoe then floated upside down and never sank. You sound like another loser of my Challenge.

No, it sank, never capsized. We had a whole bunch of gear, too much, strapped into it. The weight of the total flooding and gear combined overcame whatever innate buoyancy it had and 'ploop' down it went. Fortunately, only about 8 feet deep. We were able to dive down and unstrap the stuff and drag the vessel on up toward shore where we bailed it out in shallow water and it became buoyant again.

Point being, it sank like a stone. No hull breach. Just too much water and other stuff weight to float ratio. Not rocket science.

So why you would say that a ship won't sink without a hull breach of some sort is a mystery. Is water coming in from topside considered a "hull breach" to you?

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The Lounge / Re: Werepenguin: Bodysnatcher Edition
« on: July 29, 2020, 12:08:11 AM »
Sounds completely warped and delicious. I'm in.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Where exactly is it?
« on: July 29, 2020, 12:03:40 AM »
The admin and mods are telling us that they are powerless to apply the rules, to take care of business.
No, they are stating that they will not ban people just because they disagree with you.
i.e. they will not abuse their powers to try silence opposition.
They are also saying that you not liking how someone debates is not grounds to have them banned either.

Doing that clearly shows the earth rotating in respect to the stars.
Which has the exact issue that is already pointed out, but now you have worded it to avoid that issue.
Yes, such footage shows that Earth moves relative to the stars/sky.
But it does not tell you which is moving.

So no, such videos are not clear and simple ground based NASA FREE experiments showing that the earth rotates.
They do not clearly show the rotation of Earth.

It could be Earth rotating with the sky stationary.
It could be the sky rotating with Earth stationary.
Or it could be both rotating, but at different rates (including where one rotates one way while the other rotates the other way, or where they both rotate in the same direction).

Sorry but you are wrong. Camera fixed on a tripod with long exposure rotating with the earth one gets star trails. Put the camera on a mount that rotates fixing on a point in the sky and the result is an animation that shows the earth rotating. I’m not sure what more proof you would require?

I love these fixed-on-a-star vids with the earth rotating. Super cool. But they don't prove anything. For instance, is the skier rotating and the earth is fixed or is the ground rotating and the skier is fixed? There's no way to objectively tell:



In the video you posted the camera is stationary relative to the guy on the skiing. The supporting evidence is the tracks in the snow and the way it’s being thrown up.

Actually no, from this I can't tell who or what is in motion. Is the skier in motion, the camera or the earth? In this scenario, the skier could be stationary, the earth could be moving beneath him causing him to make concentric circles as the camera revolves around the skier. If you take the blinders off, it's anyone's guess, really.

The point being, a camera fixed on a star and locked to the earth is in no way a proof that the sky revolves around us. Just as much as a camera fixed on a star, but not locked on earth, shows star trails moving around a "fixed earth" is proof of a stationary earth.

In other words, it's a non-proof either way. Additional observations are required to show the preponderance of evidence that the earth is not fixed, but in motion. I believe in the preponderance of evidence revealing a rotating, in motion earth, but your videos are not part of that evidence.

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Hahahah, I like how you defend John McCain. McCain was the founding fucking father of Neocons. One group I hate more then liberals are the fucking neocons. Talking about greed and lack of morals, look no further then a Neocon. Trump is a hero cause he ended their fucking asses.

I'm not defending John McCain. I was personally against 9/10's of his policies. What I'm pointing out is that I value and honor his service spending some 5 years as a POW with an opportunity to be released a year early, but passed because he wouldn't proclaim any allegiance to the Viet Cong and wouldn't leave his fellow American captives behind. 5 years! And DJT, who with his military draft deferments totaling five times — once for bad feet and four times for college, had the gall to say about McCain: "He’s not a war hero, he was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured."

If you want to align yourself with that sort of Trumpian lack of humanity, have at it. But you're essentially a sociopath. And an ignorant one at that. Which is good for the rest of us because as you stumble all over your unaware zero empathy for your fellow mankind rants, real humans get real things done for the rest of humanity. In other words, you pose no threat because you're irrelevant and dismissed as a fringe crackpot.

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The Lounge / Re: What Would You Have Done . . .
« on: July 28, 2020, 06:50:40 PM »
Fundamentally, the error we're making is being reactive. Just trying to stick a bandage on it.

We would be better off if we treated it like a fire in the house. One does not take half measures when your house is on fire.

Not entirely.  A lot of people forget that unless the right is expressly given to the Federal Government, the rights are reserved to the state.  The fed can only do so much.  After that it is up to the individual states to make the decisions.

True.  But the states often take their cues from the government unless there's a reason to do otherwise.

For example, masks.  If Trump had promoted them early instead of attacking them as some kind of liberal ploy then the red states would have been much quicker to adopt them.

That wouldn't have made a difference.  People panic bought masks like crazy anyway.  As well, the spikes in COVID cases are in high population areas and places that people frequent for vacations.


N95 masks yes.  Basic masks I don't think are a problem.  Even a handkerchief would suffice.  But that brings me to another criticism of Trump.  A failure to use emergency powers to create equipment, tests etc.  5 months in and you still can't get an n95 mask to save your life.

Bigger picture it's also a missed opportunity to really drive home the weakness in depending on China for making everything.  It's strange that no one is making is making this point.

This was my big thing I was thinking (and saying to anyone who would listen to my rants) back in late Feb/early March right when my area was soon to lockdown, the WWII emergency powers act type of thing. Shortage of N95's (all PPE) and ventilators. I would have marshaled every American resource to immediately retool where appropriate and manufacture the shit out of all that was (is still) needed. That should have been our smallest issue and it was immediately a snowball into the biggest.

As well, as SCG mentioned, I would totally have let the experts absolutely lead. I would not have been spitballing ideas during press conferences and sending all kinds of mixed/false messages and completely muddying the response. Straight, absolutely tactical talk like a wartime general was necessary. Not the meandering, "I'm smart, I think I have a handle on this" constant bravado that was completely unnecessary and only serving one individual. I think, without really even Monday morning QB'ing, we could all see this thing was going completely sideways way back in March.

Back to the experts. I would have let them tell me where immediate levels of lockdown needed to be implemented. And then gone to those Governors and, I don't know, implemented exec orders or some such instrument saying, X State, you need to lockdown by X percent effective immediately according to the experts, etc. There's no difference between a global pandemic and a world war except that we're all on the same side against a common enemy. Wartime measurements should have been implemented pronto.

Amid all of this I would have personally enacted the "Jura Plan".

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Flat Earth General / Re: Question about atmospheric motion.
« on: July 28, 2020, 05:35:19 PM »
But what happens when you add 1600 km/h spin? Mess. Atoms need to fall in angle, defying gravity, in order to bounce in other angle to keep up. If they were bouncing in 90° Earth whoud have rotater under them.

Not at all.

If you are on a train moving fast and you bounce a ball downward, it comes right back up, it doesn't go flying backwards at high speed.

That's because when you throw it it already has the same velocity as you and the train, your downward throw is added to it's motion.

Same with air molecules, they are moving along with the surface of the Earth, so gravity pulls them down in addition to their existing velocity.

You have to think of being in trains, planes and automobiles as that's something you can relate to. They are great examples of how you can be moving, but feel like you are not. But an outside observer sees that you are.

Just to add on with a visual, one of my faves I've posted before...

CB, like this:


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You guys haven't said anything valid? You mentioned Trump is arrogant and spoiled, so please name me one democratic politician in America who is humble and meek? I can't think of any. All the European leaders are down right psychos or are they humble too? Please tell me specific policy Trump implemented that you believe are a joke? All you do is attacking his personality which is extremely weak argument. Come on name policies and laws he signed that makes America a joke.

Calling COVID a hoax.

Saying it will just go away.

Saying we should take untested drugs just because he decided fishtank cleaner is good for you.

Saying to drink bleach and get light inside you.

Not wearing a mask, saying all the stupid things about them.

Kissing Putins ass.

Giving a huge tax cut to the rich, and little to everyone else.

Trying to kill Obamacare with no actual plan to replace it except empty promises.

Threatening to veto any spending bill that removed Confederate names from army bases.

Tear gassing peaceful protesters so he can use a Bible as a propaganda shot at a church he didn't ask permission to use.

Being clearly ignorant of policy and looking stupid whenever he has to actually talk to a another leader.

His peace plan with Kim that equated to sending love letters back and forth, canceling joint exercises with South Korea and giving Kim a place on the world stage, all for nothing.

Trying to blackmail the Ukraine into opening a fake investigation into Biden's son and withholding vital military aid to do it.

Calling Nazi's good people.

Pulling out of the Trans Pacific economic treaty.

Pulling out of the Paris Climate agreement.

Pulling out of the WTO, giving China even more control of it.

Pulling out of Syria and letting the Taliban and Russia have their way.

Spread slander and lies about Obama being a Muslim and his birth certificate being fake.

Attacks military servicemen constantly if he doesn't like them.  Remember McCain being a loser for getting captured?

Pardoned a felon who was convicted of lying to help Trump.

Constant lies, CONSTANT lies about what he did, or was responsible for, or not responsible for. 

Putting children in cages.

Splitting up families.

Running a hotel and other businesses that other governments spend money to openly bribe him with.

Spending millions and millions of dollars of US taxpayer money on his own properties.

Pushing QAnon conspiracy theories.

Obstruction of justice.

I mean I could spend the next hour going over everything he's done, and as soon as I hit post I'll remember more but I'm already sick enough as it is.

No, "All politicians are the same" is the lie people tell when THEIR politician is crap and they want to deflect.

They are not all the same.  Trump is a terrible president, and I hate to say it, but the worst we ever had.


OK very good this is exactly what I asked for. Now let's go over everything you stated. 
1. Calling Covid a hoax; the virus is a hoax yes, it is an organized coup against Donald J Trump

Strange that he is now embracing something that is real now when it is an an organized coup against him. Seems counterintuitive.

2. Saying it will just go away; Well of course it will, everything eventually will go away.

His implication was that it will go away right quick. DJT 3/10/20: “This was unexpected. … And it hit the world. And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”

3. Taking untested drugs; I think you took it out of content. He never said that.

When reporters asked Tony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, whether the drug hydroxychloroquine was effective at preventing coronavirus, he said simply: “The answer is no.”

But when Trump came back to the microphone, he told reporters that “we ought to give it a try.”

“I think we disagree a little bit,” Trump added. “I feel good about it. That’s all it is, just a feeling, you know, smart guy. I feel good about it.”

4.Drink Bleach; I never heard him say that but if he did surely he was joking. Ronald Reagan one time said that we are five minutes away from nuclear strike against USSR, a second later he said he was joking. So compared to that Trump's joke was innocent.

DJT 4/23/20: "I was asking a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside," he said during a briefing in the Oval Office on April 24. "But it does kill it, and it would kill it on the hands, and that would make things much better. That was done in the form of a sarcastic question to the reporters.”

Reagan had dementia at the time of his "joke". What are you trying to say?

5.Not Wearing masks; yes of course we shouldn't wear them, they cut off your oxygen and make you brain dead. Its really bad for your health.

So I suppose every surgeon in the world who has to wear a mask all day is in some way brain dead. Makes sense to an idiot I suppose.

6. Kissing Putin's ass; He is not kissing anyone's ass but he wants to be friends with another mighty first world country like Russia it is to our benefit, versus the democrats who like to kiss ass of third world.

Even after it was proven that Russia meddled in our electoral process? We have way more at stake with the Chinese. He should be kissing their ass. So, instead, he kisses Putin’s ass and flips off everyone in the EU. Smart. He doesn’t have any outstanding loans with the EU or with China. Russia, on the other hand...

7. Giving tax cut to the rich; Well every economist will tell you that when taxes are low, there are more jobs created. High taxes make rich invest in other countries.

Umm, it’s been proven that Reagan’s trickle down voodoo economics was a disaster, yet Trump repeats it. Every economist will tell you the exact opposite of what you think.

8. Trying to Kill Obamacare; Sadly Obama care does not work, it made our health care equavalant to that of Mexico. All good doctors quit and began to work for drug companies so we ended up with students and quacks.

Evidence for any of that? The Repubs have tried over 70 times to kill Obamacare without a replacement plan. DJT had Repub control over Congress for the first 2 years of his term and still couldn’t get anything passed. Obama care needs a lot of help, but Americans clearly are onboard with pre-exiasting conditions no longer being an issue as well as removing the life-time cap, two really nasty things. Gone. Now 20 million+ Americans have healthcare who couldn’t get it before. Thank Obama for that.

9. Threatening to veto bills to remove confederates; Like it or not but Confederacy is part of American history. To get rid of Confederate memorials is to erase the indentity of the South.

Statues do not equal history. They equal painful reminders for millions of Americans and have no place to be memorialized/glorified.

10. Tear gassing protesters; I'm sorry but those protesters are Antifa members, they are paid by George Soros to destroy America and injure police officers.

Sure a percentage are Antifa. A small percentage. The vast majority are peaceful. And as a staunch ultra-right conservative, I would expect that you would be horrified by Gov’t troops roaming the streets of cities.

11. Being ignorant of policy or looking stupid; I never saw that you made this up.

Only someone ignorant of policy or stupid would claim to have never witnessed DJT being ignorant of policy or looking stupid.

12. Making peace with Kim; You don't hear any threats from North Korea anymore do you? case closed

Like they were ever a threat. Maybe to an Allie, but never to us. And NK is back to testing missiles. No change from prior to this administration except that DJT gave Kim a world stage. Nice.

13. Investigating Biden's son; Biden gave his son a job that pays 84,000 a month. His son is a disgrace to Navy and to to this country. His son doesn't speak a word of Ukrainian. Biden is a typical father to son Irish democrat who gives out jobs based on favor rather then skill

Crime here is nepotism at worst. How about putting a daughter and son in law in key paid very powerful positions in the White House? When neither can speak a word of what they are in charge of.

14. Calling Nazis good people; I never heard that.

Charlottesville Nazi Rally in 2017 that turned violent, DJT in response, "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.” One side were Nazis. You do the math.

15. Pulling out of Tans Pacific treaty; Good cause it only benefited one country China.

Unfortunately it benefits China more because the remaining nations in the treaty rewrote it without the US and China is now in complete control of the 11 nation Pacific pact.

16.Pulling out of Paris Climate agreement; Sorry but there is no climate change its a hoax.

You are disturbingly ignorant and have no regard for the planet you live on.

17.Pulling out of Syria; well Russia has succeded in getting rid of Isis, Russia made middle east a safer place, why spend taxpayers money on another war if Putin is willing to do this for us?

If Putin is willing to do it and control the region. Just like Ukraine. Our exit was probably short-sighted and will come back to bite us.

18. Spread lies about Obama being a Muslim; Obama is a Muslim. His name is Barak Hussein, I never met a Christian Hussein did you?

You are high.

19. Attack servicemen; I never heard of that

DJT 2015 regarding Senator John McCain: “He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

20. Pardoened a felon; Who?

Roger Stone for one.

21 Constant lies about what he did; What lies?

As of June 1, 2020, President Trump made 19,127 false or misleading claims in 1,226 days. Too many to list here...

22 Putting Children in cages and splitting families; These children are illegal and must not enter America without proper papers.

And should be separated from their parents and be caged? Do you have even a shred of human decency?

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