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10 fastest airplanes goes from 652 mph [1049 kph] to 1510 mph [2430 kph]
And that flight wasn't on one. You fail again.

It's like F1. It can go super fast like in the circuit, it can also go normal like average cars.

THAT'S WHY short distances will clearly dismiss the globe forever, coz the average speed could be just 178 kph as I posted before. Hey, 178 kph is actually the speed at airport before flying.👌

You're wrong on all accounts. Here's an actual flight from LHR to AMS that took place on 9/22/2021 - Notice the changing ground speed, distance, altitude, and time:



Where did you find the gif pic?
A modern airplane cannot go that slow.

You don't seem to understand that planes take off and land and do so starting at 0 speed and ending at 0 speed:

Takeoff and up to around 125' altitude at a speed of 149 kts (275 kph) at 7:47


Reaching cruising altitude, 23,000' at a speed of 445 kts (824 kph) at 8:03 (16 minutes to reach max speed and altitude)


Starting descent into Amsterdam at a speed of 447 kts (828 kph) at 8:09, all of 6 minutes spent at max speed


Landing at Amsterdam around 50' altitude at a speed of 126 kts (233 kph) at 8:31 (22 minutes slowing down from max speed & altitude)

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10 fastest airplanes goes from 652 mph [1049 kph] to 1510 mph [2430 kph]
And that flight wasn't on one. You fail again.

It's like F1. It can go super fast like in the circuit, it can also go normal like average cars.

THAT'S WHY short distances will clearly dismiss the globe forever, coz the average speed could be just 178 kph as I posted before. Hey, 178 kph is actually the speed at airport before flying.👌

You're wrong on all accounts. Here's an actual flight from LHR to AMS that took place on 9/22/2021 - Notice the changing ground speed, distance, altitude, and time:


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: New "old bedford level experiment" conducted
« on: September 25, 2021, 06:48:42 PM »
Yeah, and if I had to hear the guy say, "We would have seen X but the battery died," one more time I was going to punch my screen. Worst attempt ever.

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The Lounge / Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« on: September 25, 2021, 12:53:45 PM »
I know this might sound crazy but i think it might be some bad minded people into this stuff so investigate with caution IF AT ALL - probably a lot of people don't want you to know about this if it is a useful secret which i think it might be... not sure.

Yes, it does sound crazy - Bad-minded? Who are the people that don't want you to know about this "useful secret"? Magicians?

Apparently the secret is out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1089_(number)

There's nothing secret about it. I mean there's a wikipedia page about it for god's sake...

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Foundation
« on: September 24, 2021, 10:13:53 PM »
I don't see how it could be otherwise, as in a slow burn. It's not like it's 'Fast & Furious 8'. It's eternally complex out of the gate. I'm all for the slow burn.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Foundation
« on: September 24, 2021, 12:04:21 PM »
I'm going to check it out tonight.

Critic thoughts:

Is Apple's Epic Sci-Fi TV Series 'Foundation' Any Good? Here's What The Reviews Are Saying
https://digg.com/2021/is-foundation-apple-tv-series-any-good-what-reviews-say

TL; DR

    Austere and slow-moving, "Foundation" may not boast characters that immediately grab you. But this stylish, serious series lays a solid foundation for an intriguing sci-fi diversion.

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I think people should see this re-examination of theflatness trditionally reported at bedford level england. Couldn't watch the vid because of old cmptr. or something to that effect, but maybe one of the others posting in this thread could tell me what happened. My guess - they didn't find the curvature.


Why would you recommend people take 13 minutes out of their busy day to watch something that you haven't watched?

Spoiler alert: It's a garbage video.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: New "old bedford level experiment" conducted
« on: September 24, 2021, 12:41:30 AM »
I think people should see this re-examination of theflatness trditionally reported at bedford level england. Couldn't watch the vid because of old cmptr. or something to that effect, but maybe one of the others posting in this thread could tell me what happened. My guess - they didn't find the curvature. Lets talk about this.

There's nothing to talk about. This is probably the worst version. You can find better.

What are you doing with a computer that can't play a youtube video?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Eratosthenes
« on: September 24, 2021, 12:31:51 AM »
I can't use historical figures as my battering ram anymore than you can....unless you or I have proof of the actual thing.

Here's where things get weird. We all have to look at some of these things through the lens of regular humanity not through the lens of those of us who kick around in fringe alternate thinking forums.

To the overwhelmingly vast majority of the world, the story of Eratosthenes and calculating the circumference of the earth is not used as a battering ram to drill home the idea that the earth is a globe. Before the uptick of flat-earthdom, it was used simply to show how amazing it was that 2500 years ago or so a Greek guy came up with a way to measure earth's circumference for one. And for two, comes pretty close in accuracy as compared to the myriad ways we have today to achieve the same measurement. And perhaps for three, look, you can do the experiment yourself.

You see, apparently back then the scholarly notion was that the earth was a globe, settled science, as it were. That wasn't the question. The question was, how big is this thing and we really need to map it out. Much like today, outside of the minute pro/anti FE realm, you know, where people actually engage in the topic, the Eratosthenes story is just simply what I described; That's super cool that we had smart humans way back then who could figure stuff out just like we do today with modern tools...Amazing. The world outside of places like here consider a globe earth settled science - In essence, we're beyond that and on to more complex and pressing matters, discoveries, innovations.

As to whether Eratosthenes existed, you'd have to ask Cleomedes that. He seems to be the first guy documented to have written about E. Somewhere in the 1 or second century CE, I think.

The long and short, a couple of thousand+ years ago the Eratosthenes story and experiment came to light. If you assume the earth is a globe it's amazing how close to reality the measurement was.

Lastly, why the other wiki has it as measuring the diameter, haven't a clue. It's just dumb and serves no one because it doesn't even make sense for anyone's argument.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: How do old compasses work?
« on: September 23, 2021, 01:44:30 PM »
Radial magnets have a pole in the center and the opposing pole going around the outside (around the outside, around the outside). Think about where the field lines would go - the North-South line is going to point along the shortest path between the center and the rim that intersects your location.
Right so the earth's magnetic field is based from a radial magnet?
The earth's magnetic field is made by the solidification of the iron core that stirs up the liquid iron and makes a massive electric current and this current causes the magnetic field.
 
What causes the flat earth's magnetic field?

If it is the same, where is this iron core because the flat earth is just too thin to have a core.

How thick or thin is the flat earth?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: How do old compasses work?
« on: September 23, 2021, 01:00:55 PM »
Where is this south on the compass, pointing towards?

The opposite of North.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Where is Biden's promised Socialism?
« on: September 23, 2021, 12:01:18 PM »
If it was up to Liberals the only flag that would be flown is rainbow flag I think we all agree on that, they even try to cancel American flag, just watch the news. Stash I knew you are a fucking Anti Semite pest. You are comparing Swastika to rebel flag? Hitler killed 6 million Jews, did South do that? I swear God Stash you are like the second coming of JJA. lol

Approximately 750,000 Americans died in the Civil War, or 2.5% of the population of the time. Had the South not seceded from the Union in order to protect their "property" rights how many Americans would have died in a war that wouldn't have happened? You do the math.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Where is Biden's promised Socialism?
« on: September 23, 2021, 09:12:07 AM »
Well I see that you guys are not stopping spewing your non sense. Why you have such a big problem with rebel flag?

Because to many it represents secession from the Union & the desire, perceived right, that the abolishment of slavery was an economical affront to the freedoms of self governance at the State level.

Why is it OK for Mexicans to fly their flag in America, yet rebel flag is not accepted even thou rebel flag is part of American history. You may say that rebel flag represented slavery but true historians will tell you that civil war was not about slavery but rather about economics. The South wanted independence because the North was fucking them over economically.

Is it ok to fly a swastika flag over a State House?

And yes, fucking them over economically by demanding the abolishment of slavery.

From the South Carolina Declaration of Independence, 1860: 

"...We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection…
...We, therefore, the People of South Carolina, by our delegates in Convention assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, have solemnly declared that the Union heretofore existing between this State and the other States of North America, is dissolved, and that the State of South Carolina has resumed her position among the nations of the world, as a separate and independent State; with full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do.
"

That's what the Rebel flag represents.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Where is Biden's promised Socialism?
« on: September 22, 2021, 03:17:10 PM »
Notice Stash that I haven't attacked you personally. You couldn't refute anything I said so you started name calling. I'm an idiot, I'm from the 50's, I'm forgotten, I will give you a hint Stash, if you want to be good debater focus on the topic.

I’m not sure what you mean. I've refuted you at every turn. Your hyper-loose sense of facts & logic have been exposed twice already, if not more by others, just in this thread alone...



Largest ethnic growth, whites.

Hawaii is roughly 4000 miles away from Chicago so I don't understand why should we have Hawaiians here? People from Pacific Islands mostly migrate to California because it is the closest state on the mainland. You guys really suck at this huh?

Europe is 4000 miles away from Chicago. So I guess according to your logic there shouldn't be any Europeans there either.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Air on a Flat Earth
« on: September 22, 2021, 01:51:05 PM »
Thanks for the 'splainer from Hi and JB. That all makes sense even though it's extremely dark and would mean the end of everything as we know it.

I wonder what sort of timeframe we're looking at? As in, how long would it take for a build up of mass irregularities on an infinite flat plane before collapsing into a black hole or spitting off mini-spheres? Do we have any theoretical data/notions on black hole ages and how long before they became black holes?

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Fake statements again. We don't know that earth is round we are told that the earth is round by same people who lie about everything else so why believe them? And of course no ordinary person is allowed to explore extreme Arctic or Antarctic, we talked about this endlessly on this forum so why beat a dead horse?

Define "ordinary".

let me also remind you that all maps are flat and although roundies say they are projection of a globe, this has never been proven.

Do you smoke a lot of pot? I don't mean recreationally. I mean professionally, perhaps competitively - Because you must be baked to the bejesus to come up with something like this.

Let's quickly take Google maps. I'm guessing the most widely used mapping system, perhaps globally. In their documentation, source code if you will, they state that the presentation layer, what we see, uses a Mercator projection. And we all know how one creates a Mercator Projection, it's a projection from a globe. Look it up. It's been beyond proven. It's ok, I know, I'm not judging, you're just super high and that's why you write such ridiculousness.

Challenge for you: Find a map that is commonly used today and is accurate, for long hauls, say LA to NYC or maybe NYC to Paris, that is not rendered from a globe projection.


WOW another personal attack, now you saying that I'm high? Are you capable of any debate without insults? I really don't understand why admins allow you to remain on main forums.

Since when is being baked to the bejesus an insult? It's just an observation.

And I did give you a debate. I specifically called out how you are wrong about map projections and even gave you a challenge to refute. But since you are so high, I'm guessing you're having hard time forming a logical response.

In short, you are 100% wrong about map projections and are literally just making things up. Par for the course.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What are meteors, if space doesn't exist?
« on: September 22, 2021, 12:06:45 AM »


Skip to about 2:00. He shows some math so beware…;)


Another one who uses, suck.
He's not really explaining a lot about what's happening.

I don't suppose you can, can you?

Everyone uses "suck". It's just language.

There's not much to explain. He's really just demoing the effect and showing the math used to calculate how much force would be required to pull the hemispheres apart. Which is kinda cool.

- In any case, when the hemispheres are placed together with a good seal, the air pressure inside and outside is basically equal.
- When he evacuates the majority of the air from inside the orb, the air pressure inside and outside are now unequal, high pressure outside, very low pressure inside.
- There's no pressure (very, very little) on the inside so all of the regular air pressure (much higher) on the outside is clamping the two halves together because there's no resistance on the inside to push out.
- When he pops the valve allowing air to re-enter the orb, all things equalize inside and out and voila, one can easily pull them apart.

I think that fits with conventional wisdom and denpressure. But you'll tell me if I'm wrong.

The question for you is how does the vacuum pump work? How does it create the little to no pressure in the orb to kick off the experiment?
The pump pushes away the external atmosphere by compressing it with the use of the natural decompressing and expanding atmosphere inside the sphere.

Action and equal and opposite reaction.

Compression externally and decompression internally.
The air inside the sphere will expand into itself, Into each molecule if the pump continues to compress the external atmosphere with that pushing out decompression of the air inside the sphere.

This is why there is no such thing as sucking, so it really shouldn't be used in terms of trying to explain this because it's wrong.

I know, I know, "suck" is kind of a misnomer. But whatever.

I'm not following all of this "compression"/"decompression" business. The way Plat explained it is way more comprehensible:

...when the pump is connected, the valve opened, and the pump turned on, each cycle of the pump adds the volume of the pump chamber to the volume of the sphere.  This allows the air to expand into the pump chamber, and since P*V/T has to stay constant, and the total volume has increased, the pressure inside becomes slightly smaller.  The pump then expels the air from the pump chamber and the cycle repeats, each cycle reducing the pressure inside. At some point the valve is closed and the pressure inside the sphere is much lower than the atmospheric pressure outside.

Are you and he saying the same thing?
It does seem like he is, which makes me wonder why others can't get it.

So if we're all agreeing on how this particular experiment/mechanism works, why are you bringing it up? I guess my question is, what about this is why denpressure is different than conventional wisdom? How is this relevant to anything? What's my take-away from these clamped together hemispheres?

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Fake statements again. We don't know that earth is round we are told that the earth is round by same people who lie about everything else so why believe them? And of course no ordinary person is allowed to explore extreme Arctic or Antarctic, we talked about this endlessly on this forum so why beat a dead horse?

Define "ordinary".

let me also remind you that all maps are flat and although roundies say they are projection of a globe, this has never been proven.

Do you smoke a lot of pot? I don't mean recreationally. I mean professionally, perhaps competitively - Because you must be baked to the bejesus to come up with something like this.

Let's quickly take Google maps. I'm guessing the most widely used mapping system, perhaps globally. In their documentation, source code if you will, they state that the presentation layer, what we see, uses a Mercator projection. And we all know how one creates a Mercator Projection, it's a projection from a globe. Look it up. It's been beyond proven. It's ok, I know, I'm not judging, you're just super high and that's why you write such ridiculousness.

Challenge for you: Find a map that is commonly used today and is accurate, for long hauls, say LA to NYC or maybe NYC to Paris, that is not rendered from a globe projection.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Where is Biden's promised Socialism?
« on: September 21, 2021, 11:45:20 PM »
Without nationalism there is no nation.

That is the most vapid thing written around these parts in a long time. And you held the former record for such lowbrow idiocy.

We’re talking about identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

The nationalism that has been promoted for the last 5 years is not only a detriment to the globe, but internally to America. One need look no further than J6. We are a xenophobic, ill informed, devoid of reason & facts monstrosity at the moment tearing ourselves apart at the seams. And your attitude and outsized warped belief system is largely to blame.

Drop the 1950’s rhetoric and embrace the melting pot we have always been. And pay attention to facts and stop making up your own ala Kelly-Anne style. You’re basically like some outdated and outmoded relic that is already inconsequential to the 21st century. That’s probably where all your fear comes from; you’ve been passed by.

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Flat Earth General / Re: New model of the Universe.
« on: September 21, 2021, 08:04:44 PM »
The name of the country “Mexico” and the city of Mexico City are believed to be derived from the words metztli (“Moon”) and xictli (“navel, middle”), thus meaning “middle of the Moon”.

What about Bologna, Italy:

"The Romans called Bologna (actually, Bononia, as it was known then) ‘Moon City’"

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Learn more ......................
« on: September 21, 2021, 03:01:13 PM »
Why didn't Christ, peace be upon him, walk in the procession of adulterers or homosexuals?!

What do adulterers have to do with homosexuals?

How do you know Jesus didn't walk in procession with homosexuals. How would he know that he didn't?

And what does Jesus have to do with with this anyway? We're talking about Islam. I'm not going to defend either book as they are are just books that have been weaponized for over a millennia.

Is Coronavirus COVID 19 a Punishment from Allaah? - ...

- If it is a punishment, Allah is an asshole. Basically massacring innocents for no reason
- If it is a test, Allah is an asshole. Basically massacring innocents for no reason

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So much morons in the same place, it can only mean one thing : all of you CIA agents. Admit it!
OK, you caught us.  Your work here is done.

PART 1: Federal Govt HHS Whistleblower Goes Public With Secret Recordings "Vaccine is Full of Sh*t" :

Garbage

I just watched it, I'm not so sure what's so "whistleblowing" about it.

- The Nurse whistleblower is saying they in their federally run Indian hospital aren't reporting side effects from a vaccine? I didn't catch why they aren't reporting side effects. Seems like a lot of other places do. I must have missed the why.
- Then they loop another Nurse who says the vaccine is shit. Ok, so what?
- Then there's what looks like a slightly under cover vid clip of the whistleblower talking to another nurse and asking her why she can't administer Ivermectin to a patient. The nurse says that it's against protocol and she'll get fired if she does. So what?

In other words, a nurse, in a hospital, in the US, says a vaccine is "shit". I guess we should take her sole word for it and tell the world to stop with this vaccine business.

Seriously, this is the kind of lame crap you hang your hat and reputation on?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Where is Biden's promised Socialism?
« on: September 21, 2021, 01:53:01 PM »
Yes Trump's image is of the violent and masculine America






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All maps are wrong.

How are all maps wrong? Have you ever used a map before?

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Which English did you use?
"Port to Port" means "Door to Door"??? 👍

Weird, shipping by plane can take 1 to 3 days. I guess at the outer range the planes are flying at 65 mph?


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Flat Earth General / Re: North star proves flat earth
« on: September 21, 2021, 01:31:08 PM »
But anyways according to my research in order for that to happen the earth must stay in one place therefore proving that earth is flat.

What research are you referring to?

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Learn more ......................
« on: September 21, 2021, 11:31:12 AM »
Learn more...The times they are a changin'...


People attending a LGBT pride parade on June 30, 2013 in Taksim Square, Istanbul, Turkey.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: AUSTRALIA
« on: September 21, 2021, 11:20:20 AM »
Oz folks have big hearts...

Family reunited with war medal 100 years after it was lost at a Melbourne beach
A police officer has tracked down the descendants of a soldier who lost his war medal at a Melbourne beach almost 100 years ago.

A war medal lost at a Melbourne beach almost 100 years ago has been reunited with the family of a World War I digger just in time for Anzac Day.

Sergeant Atherton recently located two living descendants of the family line and reunited the war medal with its rightful family.




https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/family-reunited-with-war-medal-100-years-after-it-was-lost-at-a-melbourne-beach/news-story/696f73c16e00e55d1aa2ab23594338fc

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What are meteors, if space doesn't exist?
« on: September 21, 2021, 10:20:05 AM »


Skip to about 2:00. He shows some math so beware…;)


Another one who uses, suck.
He's not really explaining a lot about what's happening.

I don't suppose you can, can you?

Everyone uses "suck". It's just language.

There's not much to explain. He's really just demoing the effect and showing the math used to calculate how much force would be required to pull the hemispheres apart. Which is kinda cool.

- In any case, when the hemispheres are placed together with a good seal, the air pressure inside and outside is basically equal.
- When he evacuates the majority of the air from inside the orb, the air pressure inside and outside are now unequal, high pressure outside, very low pressure inside.
- There's no pressure (very, very little) on the inside so all of the regular air pressure (much higher) on the outside is clamping the two halves together because there's no resistance on the inside to push out.
- When he pops the valve allowing air to re-enter the orb, all things equalize inside and out and voila, one can easily pull them apart.

I think that fits with conventional wisdom and denpressure. But you'll tell me if I'm wrong.

The question for you is how does the vacuum pump work? How does it create the little to no pressure in the orb to kick off the experiment?
The pump pushes away the external atmosphere by compressing it with the use of the natural decompressing and expanding atmosphere inside the sphere.

Action and equal and opposite reaction.

Compression externally and decompression internally.
The air inside the sphere will expand into itself, Into each molecule if the pump continues to compress the external atmosphere with that pushing out decompression of the air inside the sphere.

This is why there is no such thing as sucking, so it really shouldn't be used in terms of trying to explain this because it's wrong.

I know, I know, "suck" is kind of a misnomer. But whatever.

I'm not following all of this "compression"/"decompression" business. The way Plat explained it is way more comprehensible:

...when the pump is connected, the valve opened, and the pump turned on, each cycle of the pump adds the volume of the pump chamber to the volume of the sphere.  This allows the air to expand into the pump chamber, and since P*V/T has to stay constant, and the total volume has increased, the pressure inside becomes slightly smaller.  The pump then expels the air from the pump chamber and the cycle repeats, each cycle reducing the pressure inside. At some point the valve is closed and the pressure inside the sphere is much lower than the atmospheric pressure outside.

Are you and he saying the same thing?

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