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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: June 25, 2020, 09:52:49 AM »
I am not wasting anyone's time here in any way, shape or form.
You certainly are with statements like you make below!

Quote from: sandokhan
I am providing the required references.
Sure you provide references that do not say what you claim they say until you add a bit of your own unproven ideas.

Quote from: sandokhan
If you disagree, you must provide a reference which refutes that point.
You own references, when read correctly, usually do not support what you claim!

Quote from: sandokhan
You cannot explain mass now.
No one can.
But can you without dragging in totally unsupportable hypotheses?

Quote from: sandokhan
So you have nothing on this issue too.

mass = density x volume

density = specific weight/g

Everything comes back to the weight, always.
Says who? Not the following paper! It makes no mention of weight!
Not only that but g varies from place to place on the Earth's surface and in space is totally meaningless.
This makes your "mass = density x volume; density = specific weight/g" totally useless.

Quote from: sandokhan
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1409.1503.pdf Rotating Ellis Wormholes in Four Dimensions
The rotating wormholes attain a finite mass and quadrupole moment.
Gravity is described by quantum entanglement Ellis wormholes.
Who proves that "Gravity is described by quantum entanglement Ellis wormholes"? Nobody that I can find.

Have you even read the paper? Look at the Abstract:
Quote from: Burkhard Kleihaus and Jutta Kunz

Abstract
We present rotating wormhole solutions in General Relativity, which are supported by a phantom scalar field. These solutions evolve from the static Ellis wormhole, when the throat is set into rotation. As the rotational velocity increases, the throat deforms until at a maximal value of the rotational velocity, an extremal Kerr solution is encountered. The rotating wormholes attain a finite mass and quadrupole moment. They exhibit ergospheres and possess bound
orbits.

So sure, the paper says that "The rotating wormholes attain a finite mass".

Quote from: sandokhan
These wormhole must rotate and must be traversable. This is how an object attains weight.
But nowhere does that paper say "This is how an object attains weight".
1) The paper never mentions "weight".
2) The only mentioning of "mass" are in relation to the mass of the wormholes

Quote from: sandokhan
Now, I have the reference to back up this part of the aether mechanism.
These wormholes have throats on the order of the Planck length:
https://cds.cern.ch/record/350843/files/9803098.pdf (page 12)
Sure it says that "These wormholes have throats with radii of order of the Planck length, and could
serve as a model for space-time foam".

But you have no justification to claim "this part of the aether mechanism". The paper says no such thing!

See what I mean by "Sure you provide references that do not say what you claim they say until you add a bit of your own unproven ideas."

I completely agree with you. sandokan - just messing up our brains. With incomprehensible ideas.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: June 22, 2020, 02:07:32 PM »
Without an Ellis rotating wormhole you don't have gravity.

All quarks are connected by wormholes. The only working model for a traversable wormhole is the Ellis ether wormhole.

Now, we understand what Tesla was up to one hundred years ago: he was using wormhole technology to send faster than light signals.

Sorry, but all you are talking about is just the transitions between unmanifested energy in space into energy - manifested. And vice versa. Read the works of scientists about the wave nature of our world. And the source of the gravitational field is just an energy vortex. Which the planets have, and not the objects (therefore, objects do not have gravity, as the Japanese probe proved). Tesla - his phrases explain everything. * If you knew the magnificence of 3, 6 and 9, then you would have the key to the Universe *, * If you want to know the secrets of the universe - you need to think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. * And please stop talking about those things that Tesla never did ...

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: June 22, 2020, 01:49:30 PM »
Without aether theory, everything falls apart for you.

You can't explain gravity, nor can you escape the consequences of the missing orbital Sagnac effect.

It's a proven fact: gravity can only be explained through quantum entanglement, which needs traversable wormholes. All quarks are connected by wormholes.

To have a traversable wormhole, you need something beyond spacetime: aether.

https://www.techlibrary.ru/b/2q1c1a1o1p1c_3m.2v._2y1j1t1n1p1e1j1o1a1n1j1l1a._2007.pdf

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: June 22, 2020, 01:44:57 PM »
How does absorbing aether magically make the object fall?

Here is the precise mechanism:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1409.1503.pdf

Rotating Ellis Wormholes in Four Dimensions

The rotating wormholes attain a finite mass and quadrupole moment.

Gravity is described by quantum entanglement Ellis wormholes.

These wormhole must rotate and must be traversable.

This is how an object attains weight.

Now, I have the reference to back up this part of the aether mechanism.

These wormholes have throats on the order of the Planck length:

https://cds.cern.ch/record/350843/files/9803098.pdf (page 12)

It was incredibly interesting, but again I did not understand anything.
I understand - this
Gravity drift and weight loss
We know only one universal force interaction between bodies - gravity (gravity). The bodies react to the gravitational field by moving in the direction of the source. But the immediate cause of the occurrence of motion is not in the presence of the field, but in the changes that occur in bodies under its action.
Any source of gravity imposes a vector deformation on the body, which the body seeks to get rid of in all available ways, one of which is the movement behind its own interference field. The result is a drift towards this source, which we interpret as free fall.
If the cause of gravitational drift is a frequency mismatch, then equalization of frequencies will inevitably lead to the cessation of the fall, i.e. to antigravity. The body will lose weight (but not mass) and freeze!

And what does * Rotating Ellis Wormholes in Four Dimensions have to do with it?

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: June 22, 2020, 10:42:22 AM »

...

The mechanism for a falling body has already been explained.

....

sandokan - Please explain again to me your mechanism - the fall of bodies. I somehow did not understand your this theory.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: June 22, 2020, 05:50:51 AM »
Here is the absolute proof that the zeta zeros are created by a sacred cubit fractal:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2082601#msg2082601

And wormholes and quantum entanglement and so on has nothing at all to do with your inability to provide a mechanism.

The aether mechanism has already been provided and wormholes and quantum entanglement are an essential part of it.

In order to solve quantum entanglement, one needs a traversable wormhole.

The Einstein-Rosen bridge is not traversable.

Only a rotating Ellis wormhole is traversable.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2260640#msg2260640 (four consecutive messages)

Of course, I understand what qubit is, but where does the qubit in this thread? Do we really need quantum computers to find out what really makes water stick to the surface of the earth.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: June 22, 2020, 05:13:39 AM »
GR has a hard time explaining anything quantum. This is well known. The quest for a theory of everything continues.

Yes, it seems there is already such a theory that even explains the notorious - gravity!
This is rhythmodynamics

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: June 08, 2020, 11:59:40 AM »
Not good enough.

...

A graviton is a string with closed loops.

https://cds.cern.ch/record/223258/files/9202054.pdf

Gravitons and Loops

Abhay Ashtekar, Carlo Rovelli and Lee Smolin

The “reality conditions” are realized by an inner product that is chiral asymmetric, resulting in a chiral asymmetric ordering for the Hamiltonian, and, in an asymmetric description of the left and right handed gravitons.

The first step towards this goal is to recast the Fock description of graviton also in terms of closed loops.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1010.3552.pdf

Chiral vacuum fluctuations in quantum gravity

Is made up of the right handed positive frequency of the graviton and the left handed negative frequency of the anti-graviton.

GR is a low level first approximation which necessitates knot theory, ether drainholes, repulsive gravity (antigravity) and Kaluza-Weyl spaces, to explain quantum mechanics and Bell's theorem.

Super! I knock hooves with admiration!
* A graviton is a string with closed loops. *
I will include this phrase in my story as: Scientific debate about complete nonsense. I hope you are a Sandokhan adherent of Stochastics ...

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Eratosthenes experiment
« on: June 03, 2020, 10:51:33 AM »
The complete demolition of the Eratosthenes myth: new radical chronology comes to the rescue.

http://www.ilya.it/chrono/pages/erdmessungen.htm

Uwe Topper, one of the best European new chronologists:

.....

sandokhan - well, you said ... you still add Nosovsky and Fomenko here - with their new chronology. My colleagues and I spent a month understanding this whole concept of a new chronology. As a result, we came to the conclusion that there is a lot of speculation regarding astrology. And in particular on solar eclipses.
No one knows the real real story that happened before the disasters, like the maps, but!
Eratosthenes is a real person. And he really determined the size of the Earth. In those days, it was not such a big problem - it turns out.
And in general, the new chronology of the alternativists is not at least any evidence, since they have no evidence.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: May 31, 2020, 09:38:33 AM »
They sure do.

Experiments carried out by the greatest astrophysicist of the 20th century: Dr. Nikolai Kozyrev.

“Time is the most important and most enigmatic peroperty of nature. Time is not propagated like light waves; it appears immediately everywhere.” – Dr. Nikolai Kozyrev

"Dr. Nikolai Kozyrev, a respected Russian astrophysicist, announced almost fifty years ago that he had discovered a new force in physics that he called the “density of time.” He concluded that the rate at which time passes can be altered by other physical processes."

“After years of careful experiments, Dr. Kozyrev and his colleagues found that in a left-hand rotating system the time flow is positive-it adds energy. In a right-hand system the time flow is negative. ... In Dr. Kozyrev's view our world is a left-hand system and it has a positive time flow that adds energy to our universe.

Time not only has a pattern of flow, says Dr. Kozyrev, but also a rate of flow. He calls "the rate of flow" the difference between cause and effect. "As the rate of the time flow through a substance changes, weight is lost," Dr. Kozyrev told us.”

“Kozyrev theorized that the interaction of time with substance was responsible for the power generation of the stars in the universe. He observed that scalar energy was spiraling energy that was in itself a, “flow of time,” that acted upon the ether in order to generate power for the stars.

Kozyrev also demonstrated that a scalar energy force field had a direct effect upon the weight of objects leading him to conclude that scalar energy is the cause of gravity.”

Spinning Gyroscope Experiment

In order to verify his theory, N.A.Kozyrev conducted a series of experiments with spinning gyroscopes. The goal of these experiments was to make a measurement of the forces arising while the gyroscope was spinning.

N.A.Kozyrev detected that the weight of the spinning gyroscope changes slightly depending on the angular velocity and the direction of rotation. The effect he discovered was not large, but the nature of the arising forces could not be explained by existing theories.

In the 1970s, in order to verify N.A.Kozyrev's theory, a major research of gyroscopes and gyroscopic systems was conducted by a member of Belarus Academy of Sciences, professor A.I.Veinik. The effect discovered earlier by N.A.Kozyrev was completely confirmed.

Dr. Kozyrev (see The Pendulum of the Universe article in the Sputnik magazine) made sure that his experiments were screened from any factors usually taken into account in such experiments: air currents, mechanical actions/causes, electrical fields, e/m fields.
Dr Kozyrev's experiments began in the 1950s and were conducted since the 1970s with the ongoing assistance of Dr V. V. Nasonov, who helped to standardise the laboratory methods and the statistical analysis of the results. Detectors using rotation and vibration were specially designed and made that would react in the presence of torsion fields.
It is important to remember that these experiments were conducted under the strictest conditions, repeated in hundreds or in many cases thousands of trials and were written about in extensive mathematical detail. They have been rigorously peer-reviewed, and Lavrentyev and others have replicated the results independently.

“It turns out that the time pattern of our world is positive in a laevorotary system of coordinates. From this, we are afforded the possibility of an objective determination of left and right; the left-hand system of coordinates is said to be that system in which the time progress is positive, while the right-hand system is one in which it is negative. Hence, time possesses not only energy but also a rotation moment which it can transmit to a system. There also exists a variable property which can be called the density or intensity of time. In a case of low density it is difficult for time to influence the material systems, and there is required an intensive emphasis of the causal-resultant relationship in order that force caused by the time pattern would appear.”

Dr. N.A. Kozyrev

Time is a torsion potential or a scalar wave.

Time is the dextrorotatory scalar wave (subquark string), or terrestrial gravity.

Anti-time is the laevorotatory scalar wave, or antigravity.

The flow of time and anti-time can cause matter to either increase or decrease in weight.

The external rays which disintegrate matter are telluric currents of dextrorotatory spin.

Tesla stated that if any radioactive element were to be shielded from these rays, the material would cease to be radioactive.

Radioactive materials are the dense targets of external energetic streams.

http://depalma.pair.com/gyrodrop.html (experiment carried out by the team of researchers which worked with Dr. Bruce DePalma)

Gyro Drop Experiment

In this experiment a fully enclosed, electrically driven gyroscope is released to fall freely under the influence of gravity. The elapsed time taken to fall a measured distance of 10.617 feet was measured, with the rotor stopped and also with the rotor spinning at approximately 15,000 RPM.

Data was gathered on a Chronometrics Digital Elapsed Dime Clock measuring 1/10,000 second, actuated by two phototransistor sensors placed in the paths of two light beams which were consecutively interrupted by the edge of the casing of the falling gyroscope.

A fully encased, spinning gyroscope drops faster than the identical gyroscope non-spinning, when released to fall along its axis.

Runs 3-7 show clearly what is going on: the rotating gyroscope is falling faster than its non-rotating counterpart.

Sorry, sandokhan could not help saying again that if you do not understand something, it is unnecessary to bear nonsense. You put together so many things that I just felt funny.

I will always pull you sandokhan when you speculate data from the Russian sector.
N. Kozyrev noted that a change in the weight of the gyroscope could be detected in late autumn and winter, and even in this case the readings changed throughout the day. Obviously, this is due to the position of the Earth relative to the Sun.

N. Kozyrev conducted his experiments at the Pulkovo Observatory, which is located about 60 ° north latitude. In the winter season, the position of the Earth relative to the Sun was such that the axis of rotation of the gyro in the daytime was almost parallel to the axis of the ecliptic plane - this is approximately (7 °).
Many tried to repeat Kozyrev's experiments - but this was not always in winter for the northern hemisphere. Therefore, for someone, something came out, for others - not.
So gentlemen! Doesn’t it remind you of anything? But it reminds me of a well-known experiment. You are aware that in winter at baptism, the angle of refraction of the sun's rays of light in the water changes. This is a real fact, according to which the position of the planet in the solar system has always been determined in Russia. Moreover, very simple methods - a bowl with a hole.

These two facts: gyroscopes with weight loss in winter and the change in the refraction of light in water are interconnected. The position in which our earth is in relation to the stream of ether wind.
So we can conclude that weight loss by a gyroscope is in fact in no way connected with gravity (since gravity, according to ether dynamics, has a completely different nature than you all write here). Weight changes are associated with the passage of time in the stream of ether wind, which affects all bodies. Therefore, there is a dependence of this change on: the direction of rotation of the gyroscope, time of day, time of year. And in the end the situation on our globe.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: May 25, 2020, 12:37:42 PM »
Moderators asked me not to participate in disputes. Yes, and I myself do not really want it now. Since vsm do not give a damn about my comments. Since they make you think, not wave your fists.
I’m waiting for the last comment from Sandohan to tell you my thoughts about the gyro. And that’s all.
I don't think that SCG meant for you not to "participate in disputes" but just that your posts in the Debate Forum were not appropriate for that forum.

I'm no authority but I imagine if you stick to "debating how water sticks to a globe again" in this thread you should be OK.

I respect your opinion rabinoz. But probably I really have nothing to do here. I have a completely different mindset. Therefore, I will continue to fall into such situations. I think with figurative pictures that connect all possible facts for each case. Because of this, my statements do not have a definite vector (such as I see in the discussions here), but they impoverish the whole direction with all the known facts on this issue. From which, sometimes it seems that I am moving away from the topic of discussion. And it sometimes baffles you. You rabinoz recently encountered this, looking at my picture, which, in addition to visible, also had hidden information. In general, all my pony pictures have a deep meaning, and not just entertainment.
So about the gyroscope itself ... The very idea that I touched on this experience is logic. It is proved that such a gyroscope behavior is possible only on a rotating ball - since this is determined by the very essence of the experiment. That further debate about how water can stick to a rotating ball is exhausted. And the flat earthlings lost.
In general, I read so much garbage here that is not related to the topic of discussion at all, that I will say so. Read the Efirodinamika - everything is painted there and mathematically justified. This is a topic that flat earthlings cannot overcome.
To whom it is interesting to write in a personal letter - I will literally explain on the hoofs in a couple of sentences what gravity is and what our earth really looks like.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: May 25, 2020, 12:10:02 PM »
In general, I state the fact sandokhan - - merged. And this is the second time in a dispute with me. Well, man doesn’t know how to lose - pony. I think sandokhan needs to think about not misleading other people with his super scientific articles.
Postscript - Kozyrev’s experience with a gyroscope that responds to entropy undoubtedly proves that the earth is a spinning ball. Therefore, already as a fact, we have adhered water to the surface of a rotating ball.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: May 24, 2020, 08:50:19 PM »
Moderators asked me not to participate in disputes. Yes, and I myself do not really want it now. Since vsm do not give a damn about my comments. Since they make you think, not wave your fists.
I’m waiting for the last comment from Sandohan to tell you my thoughts about the gyro. And that’s all.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: A simple unbiased poll to determine the membership's opinion on Earth's shape.
« on: May 24, 2020, 08:44:21 PM »
This is when Twilight Sparkle told her that the earth is flat. And the globe that she sees in front of her is just a fake. After all, princesses rule the sun and moon! And this is only possible above flat ground. Poor Princess Twilight Sparkle ... And Wise ...
Your comment in youtube is hidden on the channel because your comment is silly, but the video is not. Be rational, be fair. Your imaginary world is the most silly idea here.

Believe me friend. Living in a fairy-tale world is better than reading like that.
** Is not my dick cheney curved? Yes But this situation can not make my dick cheney neither a globe, nor a curve, nor a spheroid. Having some common points can not make different objects same.**
Moreover, imagine that I need to translate all this and think about why it was said ... you want to puke

It’s not better to live in a fairy tale. Than in such a real world, when there is nothing besides senseless disputes.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: May 24, 2020, 02:12:17 PM »
The relationship between a gyroscope and entropy was initiated by Dr. Nikolai Kozyrev.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1922302#msg1922302

It turns out that the time pattern of our world is positive in a laevorotary system of coordinates. From this, we are afforded the possibility of an objective determination of left and right; the left-hand system of coordinates is said to be that system in which the time progress is positive, while the right-hand system is one in which it is negative. Hence, time possesses not only energy but also a rotation moment which it can transmit to a system. There also exists a variable property which can be called the density or intensity of time. In a case of low density it is difficult for time to influence the material systems, and there is required an intensive emphasis of the causal-resultant relationship in order that force caused by the time pattern would appear.”

Dr. N.A. Kozyrev

Time is a torsion potential or a scalar wave.

Time is the dextrorotatory scalar wave (subquark string), or terrestrial gravity.

Anti-time is the laevorotatory scalar wave, or antigravity.

Space-time fabric is the aether (the medium) through which scalar waves propagate (ether), these scalar waves are called time and anti-time (terrestrial gravity and antigravity).

The flow of time and anti-time can cause matter to either increase or decrease in weight.

The external rays which disintegrate matter are telluric currents of dextrorotatory spin.

Tesla stated that if any radioactive element were to be shielded from these rays, the material would cease to be radioactive.

Radioactive materials are the dense targets of external energetic streams.

Bravo sandokhan - but do you know what your answer is called? I hear a ringing, but I don’t know where he is .... I’m Russian and read in the originals almost all the articles related to Kozyrev. Including those years when Kozyrev himself lived. Your material that you published and to which you refer is of little use for the scientific explanation of something, since it carries pitfalls. Those who threw into the stream of the river are already those who in their own way interpret Kozyrev. It’s like Kozyrev’s mirrors - everyone shouts about them, but in reality they have nothing to do with Kozyrev.
In addition, I did not see in your statements even a hint of an explanation of why the gyroscope reacts to entropy. A link to Kozyrev is a dummy! Since Kozyrev did not connect torsion fields with this experiment. The nature of this phenomenon is completely different. Here the donkey understands that if there is entropy, that is, the passage of time. But try to explain the essence of it yourself, without links to empty articles.
Your answer - once again shows that your theories are just an empty phrase. You fell completely in my eyes, below the plinth.

Kozyrev’s tortional weights really showed the passage of time, but I'm sorry, they also showed a lot of things that cannot be explained with the help of your arguments about * Time is a torsion potential or a scalar wave. Time is a right-handed scalar wave (subquark string), or terrestrial gravity. Anti-time is a left-handed scalar wave, or anti-gravity * For example, how tortional weights reacted to moonlight, sunlight, and the position of stars. Read Kozyrev in the original pages, not reviews of him.

Your move and excuse is sandokhan.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: I guess we're debating how water sticks to a globe again
« on: May 24, 2020, 09:42:34 AM »
Unless physcists have figured the quantumness of gravity you will not be able to answer his question.

What?!

You are admitting that modern physics cannot explain attractive gravity?

Then, you cannot explain the outrageous claim that trillions of tons of water adhere to the outer surface of a sphere.

sandokhan - Flat Earth Sultan - Flat Earth Scientist you really pleased me! You also cannot explain why these trillions of tons of water have not yet fallen from the edge of flat earth!
I think you will never explain this!
At the same time, the answer to your question why water is held on the surface of the ball is obvious. The principle is the same as that of a gyroscope that responds to entropy! Check for yourself, take the gyroscope and bring a cup of hot tea to it. And you will see how in a couple of minutes, as the tea cools, the gyroscope itself will begin to turn! Lol - I do not lie and do not invent, this is a documented fact. And this physical principle just explains why the water is held on a ball! But you are a sandokhan - a connoisseur of flat land is unlikely to answer such a very simple question about a gyroscope.
But if you are a sandokhan - still answer it correctly - I will become your fan.
This is a very interesting topic with a gyroscope that responds to entropy. The answer is so banal and simple - how to add two plus two. Although, you remember me sandokhan that you could not even explain the gyrocompass on flat ground, although I gave you a mathematical hint for this.
So sandokhan - how can you explain why a gyroscope reacts to entropy, or how? This is a battle!

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: A simple unbiased poll to determine the membership's opinion on Earth's shape.
« on: May 24, 2020, 08:29:22 AM »

The deviation from sphere goes between -0.235% and +0.11%.

So, we can freely say that within the tolerance well under 0.5% the Earth is a sphere.
No, you are lying. We can not say something like  that a lie. Because you have not measured it and all your measurements are imaginary.
You haven't measured or even seen much of the Earth so you cannot say it is flat!
This is not the isse. Cut to jump the queue. Do you have to throw spherical world propaganda everywhere? You did not measure it so it is not round. Okay now?

This is when Twilight Sparkle told her that the earth is flat. And the globe that she sees in front of her is just a fake. After all, princesses rule the sun and moon! And this is only possible above flat ground. Poor Princess Twilight Sparkle ... And Wise ...

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: Sun, a light bulb
« on: May 24, 2020, 07:39:38 AM »
I definitely think horizontally stacked atmosphere could produce vertical light effects.

Show us how you think that might work?

I imagine it like that! And not otherwise

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: A Poll: How did you get the reality of Flat Earth fact?
« on: May 22, 2020, 09:03:35 PM »
Wise,

It's ok. Rab and Jack were radicalized by conventional wisdom, many decades ago. They aren't open to new or old viewpoints, and equally astonished today as the first moment they entered this forum, to find members who propagate the flat earth idea. It's too ingrained on them. They are too intolerant. If you were to tell them, you succumb and concede the earth is a ball,(joking ofcourse) they would likely never return. So obsessed with winning the debate, are they.

But, they will be the first to admit, thanks to this forum, they are smarter individuals than they were, prior to coming here. Wise, they have you and Sandy to thank for their increase in knowledge and brain power.

Jack thinks you and Sandokhan may be planning on sailing to the ice wall and then catapulting yourselves over the top into the dome, just to prove your point. Personally, I can't see that happening, but so extreme and irrational are their concerns.

I'll tell you a secret ... all the Princess Luna conspiracy

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: A Poll: How did you get the reality of Flat Earth fact?
« on: May 22, 2020, 08:45:45 PM »
I concluded the earth is flat as a result of a number of observations I made of the Earth, which left no other logical possibility.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: A Poll: Why do you believe the earth is a ball?
« on: May 16, 2020, 12:07:50 PM »
What kind of nonsense? Is everything really so sad for flat earthlings?

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Question for Rabinoz
« on: May 15, 2020, 08:41:49 PM »
there's an explanation - refraction.
repeatably observed phenomena.

what does NOT have an explanation?
look at wise's recent response to where the sun is.
- "it's either here, or there, or in between, or unknowable".

The most interesting thing is that when people do not have answers to questions, they stop arguing. You can be convinced of something for years and prove your case. But when you understand that you are not able to answer questions, then no one bothers to figure out whether all that you once knew really makes sense.
So it is here. Everyone knows about zooming in the mountains. But for some reason no one pays attention to it. For hours, days, years - you argue about flat earth, but nobody wants to deal with the scaling of inclined surfaces. Maybe this is because then this site will not be needed? And you will have nowhere to spend time in the evenings? Exercise, do it, it will be more useful.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: Can a Black Hole be flat?
« on: May 15, 2020, 11:09:59 AM »
Pancake. You have nowhere to put the time here? Then please tell me then - Can an attractor be flat?

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: If the moon is flat(question from Chinese flat earther )
« on: May 10, 2020, 09:19:24 PM »
Sorry - spoke incorrectly; the moon is indeed flat.

Ha ha, and the ground is flat and the moon is flat... Then what about radio communications through the moon? You don 't deny that radio waves exist?

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: If the moon is flat(question from Chinese flat earther )
« on: May 09, 2020, 08:01:41 AM »
If the moon is flat, why don’t the moon appear oval when people observe it at the same time?

Due to its dome structure, it is like a plasma TV screen. Regardless of which side and at what distance you look, the object on it appears the same size. but depending on your viewpoint, the object can be straight or inverted.

The angular dimension is the inverse trigonometric function, and there must be more than 2 times the difference in order to decrease or increase the direction in one direction. Otherwise, the dimensions in the two directions will look the same. For example; So what I mean is that you have to be at least 10000 kilometers away so that you can see one dimension of the sun, higher than the other, that is, oval which is 5,000 kilometers distant. but when you get 6,000 kilometers away, you see that it set due to the insufficient angular size and some other reasons. so you can never see it oval. already the distance of the sun and the moon is set at a distance where they will not appear oval.

If you understand what I have written, you will fully understand the subject. never mind what others say. they're just here to scam.

Well, nonsense. When we look at the moon, we see it, but there is no dome. Answer question. What is the signal of the radio station reflected when lunar communication from the dome or moon? It is proved that only by directing a beam of radio waves in the center of the moon you will receive an answer. Otherwise, due to the fact that the moon is round, you will not receive an answer. It is not possible to synchronize the operation of the dome and the moon at each point of radio communication through the moon! Unless you are a magician - alicorn ....

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Question for Rabinoz
« on: May 09, 2020, 07:20:45 AM »
The funny thing is that space bends if the reference point deviates from a straight line into the distance. This is officially confirmed by scaling distance measurements for hilly terrain. So when you look ahead and only, then you can see the point further than the side view. But this is of little use to anyone. We need a general picture and not a narrow beam of vision. No one has yet explained how the prospect works.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: Alien Life
« on: March 06, 2020, 11:07:26 AM »
Does believing in FE mean not believing in any other forms of life outside of Earth?

Do you believe in intelligent ponies?

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##### The Lounge / Re: RIP Mike Hughes
« on: February 22, 2020, 11:02:32 PM »

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Sandokhan's date of the great flood
« on: January 24, 2020, 07:27:47 PM »

The 1700s were a wild time to be alive!

I do not agree. These were just other times with a different understanding of life. And I wanted to be there, I don 't like living here...

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: Globe Earth debunk
« on: January 11, 2020, 09:44:40 AM »
Jack, note the name of our "opponent" - non.flatearther. Maybe a little suspicous ?

I's advise treating Mr non.flatearther in a "suitable manner".

Fluttershy ....

I am disappointed with the attitude towards the creation of nicknames, it sometimes sounds silly. The truth is stupid.

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