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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: China to land on Mars
« on: May 14, 2021, 08:25:05 AM »
When the United Arab Emirates' Hope (Al-Amal) mission successfully entered Mars orbit, it was Fake News as usual!

Fake News = "I don't want it to be true! Waaaaaaaah!"

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: China to land on Mars
« on: May 13, 2021, 08:51:11 PM »
but a coloured nation making headway in space? Nah, shove an ominous headline somewhere in the middle

Your belief is irrelevant. You speculate what will happen, but fail to notice what has happened. When the United Arab Emirates' Hope (Al-Amal) mission was  launched and successfully entered Mars orbit, it was prominently featured in major US news outlets.

Maybe the news outlets you frequent have as much disdain for little Tonka trucks with 25-year old technology playing around on Mars as you do for little toy helicopters. Pick a thing to be outraged about ... a country wasting money on an irrelevant space mission or a country boasting about its technological achievements. Kinda fun to pick and choose which one you happen to be outraged about, isn't it?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: debate
« on: May 10, 2021, 02:48:18 PM »
Because they are really bright
If one lives, say, on the east coast of the U.S., in the middle of a dark night shouldn't the top of Everest be really bright? Covered in snow and in direct mid-day sun approximately a milliradian above the horizon? And an extended source, not a point source. Far brighter than faint little stars.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Non-fungible tokens
« on: April 30, 2021, 10:07:28 AM »
Does that mean I can now go after each and every one with a copyright infringement gambit?

Not unless the contract, terms and conditions transfer the ownership of the copyright to you, which is not usual for NFTs (although certainly allowable). In most cases you "own" the original, but not the rights to the original. And for copyright infringement, prosecuting a claim takes a reasonable amount of money, so the only upside would be if someone were using it and making a lot of money off of it, which is not the case with your example. If you just wanted to be a rich dick that pissed people off, you could throw money away doing that, but the result would likely be you would prevent them from using it in future, with little to no recompense for past violations.

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[H]is ideas are plentiful being an eccentric personality but has a lot more 'miss' than 'hit' ideas (like his stupid submarine idea to rescue the kids trapped in a cave)

And what's wrong with that? Most entrepreneurs have more misses than hits. Musk took large gambles on ideas; luck played a part in that the ones he took the largest gambles on (technologically, business-facing, customer-facing) paid off. He did not sink billions of dollars into a submarine rescue; using that as an example of a bad idea has nothing to do with business success.

Being a genius does not make you as successful a money maker as Musk. Law of large numbers ... lots of people take huge risks. Most fail. Someone will make the exact right choices and land on the top of the heap. If not Musk, someone else.

At which point Shifter would be complaining about how much of a douchenozzle that person is.

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BTW, a family with US median income, that pays $6600 in federal taxes would spend a whopping $0.15 towards that $82M.

So sorry that kind of money is out of your price range. Maybe we can take up a GoFundMe for you?
What makes you think that Shifter is a US taxpayer? ???
Nothing. I don't. I was just commenting on Shifter's apparent lack of disposable income that makes $0.15 such a burden on his wallet and his brain.

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So you think 82 Mil is value for money? I suppose when they spend millions inventing a pen where the ink writes in low gravity environments maybe it is


Shifter loves to toss out "facts" that sound good but have no basis in reality.

Paul C. Fisher of the Fisher Pen Company reportedly spent $1M to develop a pen that could write in zero gravity as well as from -50F to 400F and underwater.

The pen was offered to NASA who initially declined it.

After extensive testing, NASA bought 400 pens ... at $2.39 each.

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BTW, a family with US median income, that pays $6600 in federal taxes would spend a whopping $0.15 towards that $82M.

So sorry that kind of money is out of your price range. Maybe we can take up a GoFundMe for you?

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Still, I could think of better ways to spend billions of dollars than to hover a drone for under a minute.


You've already been corrected on the price ...

Orville and Wilbur Wright's first flight of a powered aircraft in 1903 was 120 feet in 12 seconds. What the f*** was the use of that?

Ingenuity's 3rd flight was 160 feet out and back in 80 seconds.

Sounds like they're progressing pretty well.

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At first they claimed mars has so little atmosphere as to be as near to a vacuum, as they tell it.

And we have to believer this drone can hover in a supposed near vacuum, as they tell us?


I can't help that you can't interpret information.

There has been a consistent dissemination from reputable sources that Mars has an atmosphere ~1% of Earth's.

Yes, if you're talking about trying to breathe, 1% is a near vacuum.
No, if you're talking about typical vacuum applications, 1% is nowhere like a near vacuum.

Rather than throw around ill-defined terms like "near vacuum", why not talk specifics? Can you fly a rotorcraft in 1% atmosphere? Yes. Of course. Easy to show analytically, and has been empirically demonstrated.

Would you like to reference your claims about what THEY say? From what I see it's only what YOU say.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Facebook hacked
« on: April 06, 2021, 07:49:17 AM »

Don't use Facebook!


Never have.

Never will.

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Flat Earth General / Re: South Polar Centered Flat Earth is VERIFIED
« on: April 06, 2021, 07:45:44 AM »
Rarely happened, the 1st reply came after 2 days from the initial post.
Perhaps because you haven't really provided anything.
You have a video of a bright sky.
It proves literally nothing.
Danang has a video of an extremely cloudy sky with patches of clear sky and patches of completely obscured sky.

Danang does not understand the meaning of the word verified. He can't even explain his fantasy.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Mars? Are you sure?? :D
« on: March 09, 2021, 02:00:29 PM »

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Flat Earth General / Re: Mars? Are you sure?? :D
« on: March 08, 2021, 07:26:29 AM »
I'm waiting for an actual coherent question or statement from danang, rather than toddler-like blurtings.

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Got my Pfizer dose 1 yesterday. Props to Walgreens for a well-executed web site and on site experience.

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Secrets are hard to keep and if you have something that could be easily reverse engineered and you don't patent it, well then anyone could produce it.


That's the rub. CF has been around as an idea for decades but no one has been able to show it reliably. That points to the idea that a reliable system has to have some "secret sauce" ... a process that is not obvious and could be kept secret that is a key.

You can take apart a telephone and easily see how it works. There is no manufacturing process that is crucial to its operation that can't be understood. But, for instance, a method or technique that prepares the platinum and palladium anodes ... that's not something that is necessarily obvious by taking a CF device apart.

Or the inventors could actually produce a working model.

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Re:  The discussion about patents.

Why are so many people hung up about patents and the ability to get or not get them?

Patents are one method by which to protect intellectual property.

Another is trade secret. If I have a way of doing something that is very difficult to do without having precise knowledge of how to do it (something that seems very much relevant to producing cold fusion energy) you simply keep the process a trade secret. In some ways, trade secrets are even more useful than patents. With a patent, you must disclose enough that someone else can make your product, process, etc. You are granted exclusive rights for a time. With a trade secret, you maintain the ability to keep being the only supplier of a device/process indefinitely.

(A quick example that showed up at the top of Google search ... BTW an example of a trade secret rather than a patent.)
https://www.mondaq.com/india/trade-secrets/783558/what-to-choose-between-trade-secrets-and-patents

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Lunar Eclipses?
« on: February 22, 2021, 12:52:14 AM »

All the other models I've seen look like this.


Maybe you shouldn't make all-encompassing statements based solely on what you have seen.

'based on what I've seen'. Does that mean research? 'Cause at least I do it instead of assuming that everything that the Flat Earth Society says is true. The Earth isn't flat. There are multiple do-able experiments to prove such a thing.

OK. Tell us which of these experiments you're going to do, and let's come to an agreement on the hypothesis, validity of the method, and what constitutes a passing and a failing experiment.


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Earth's Curvature on a Smaller Scale
« on: February 22, 2021, 12:46:52 AM »
Some people of the F.E.S ask, "Why can't I look across an Olympic-sized swimming pool and see curvature?".

Could you please cite a reference? I have not seen that argument before.

Here's why: there is curvature, but very small, small enough to not be seen with human eyes.

Earth curves at around 8 inches per mile, which means that for every mile, the Earth curves around 8 inches.

Wrong. A sphere with a radius of 4000 miles will have a curvature of 8 inches per mile *squared*, not 8 inches per mile.

A surface that "curves" at 8 inches per mile is a slightly tilted flat plane. Congratulations. You've just stated that the Earth is flat.

Dividing 8 by 63,360 (number of inches in a mile), we get 0.000126 inches per inch (rounded).

The division is correct, but the interpretation is correct only if the surface in question is flat.

0.000126 inches is 3.2 micrometers, or 3.2 millionths of a meter. So for every inch, Earth curves 0.0000032 meters or 0.000126 inches.

Again, correct arithmetic, but faulty interpretation.

This means for every foot, the Earth curves by 0.001512 inches (0.000126 multiplied by 12), or 38.4 micrometers (0.0000384 meters).

Nope. The appropriate formula to use for drop of a spherical surface from a point at a distance is (using the approximation when distance << radius)
drop = (2 * distance)^2 / (8 * radius)

For a distance of 1 mile, the drop is 8 inches
For a distance of 1 foot, the drop is 3E-07 inches
For a distance of 1 inch, the drop is 2E-09 inches

An Olympic-sized swimming pool (my example for this) is 164 feet in length (long-course). Multiply 0.001512 by 164 and you get 0.247968 inches, or 6,297.6 micrometers (6.2976 millimeters, or 0.0062976 meters). That's very small.

Your idea of small is relative. With good surveying equipment, at that distance you should be able to see a few thousandths of an inch.

For a distance of 164 feet, the drop is .0077 inches.

For comparison, a US dime is 0.705 inches in diameter (17.91 millimeters, 0.01791 meters). So no, you wouldn't really be able to see a curvature in an Olympic-sized swimming pool.

If that curvature drop was 1/4 inch, I assure you, it would be easily detectable by equipment I have at home.

Too long, didn't read: An Olympic-sized swimming pool will curve at less than half of the diameter of a US dime, not really visible.

So, a full paragraph of nonsensical calculations that have nothing to do with a curved surface, culminating in a conclusion that is totally faulty (that you can't measure 1/4 inch at a distance of 164 feet).

Please tell us again why we should take anything you say seriously?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Lunar Eclipses?
« on: February 20, 2021, 12:37:20 AM »

All the other models I've seen look like this.


Maybe you shouldn't make all-encompassing statements based solely on what you have seen.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: R.I.P. Rush Limbaugh
« on: February 19, 2021, 09:21:32 PM »
Early on in his career, and when the internet was a baby, I kept hearing the name Rush Limbaugh, but only in comments like "Rush Limbaugh is great!" and "Rush Limbaugh sucks!" I knew nothing about him.

I then saw that he had a late night television show. I watched it one night and thought it was genius.  I thought "This is the greatest parody of late night television since 'Fernwood Tonight'."

I watched the next night and slowly realized that he was not parodying conservatism. I had apparently caught him on a light and playful mood the first night (as I recall, he had his mother on the show) and had mistaken his rhetoric for parody, much like Steven Colbert would do with "The Colbert Report" a decade later. The second night was all trademark Limbaugh vitriol.

I spoke to him on his call-in radio show once asking about a quote he made early in his career to the effect that he knew his bombast was a schtick designed to get and keep an audience. He, of course, deflected while his producer hung up on me.

The damage he did to the country was at the time, tremendous. He has since been eclipsed by paramount provocateurs and agitators who far outstrip him.

I am, however, not sorry he is gone. Burn in one of the hells, Rush.


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Lunar Eclipses?
« on: February 19, 2021, 08:51:57 PM »
On Flat Earth day-night models, the sun and moon are always shown opposite of each other

If your premise is invalid, how can you expect people to take you seriously?



Clearly the sun and moon are not opposite each other, so your statement "On Flat Earth day-night models, the sun and moon are always shown opposite of each other" is incorrect.

From:
http://www.geologyin.com/2017/08/flat-earthers-claim-solar-eclipse-just.html

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Flat Earth General / Flat Earth interest
« on: February 07, 2021, 09:22:26 AM »
Former "Flat Earth Scientist" wise used to put a lot of stock in how popular flat earth searches were on Google, and claimed that they not only showed interest, but acceptance of FE.

Being both curiouser and curiouser, I looked at recent Google trends.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=%22flat%20earth%22

As of 7-Feb-2021 looks like fewer people are interested in this conspiracy. Maybe they have other things on their minds.

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The Lounge / Re: Star Trails
« on: February 07, 2021, 09:09:01 AM »
Awesome photo. Could you share details of what equipment and what settings? Thanks!

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Quote from: Danang
Why is it you still claim pi is wrong and that PHEW = 3.17157 and yet you still haven't refuted a single thing in my video?  I even did you 6 radian challenge.  I proved that pi is correct and phew was wrong. 

If you really believe your claim then why don't you reply to my demonstrations?  If you're right is should be a simple debunk...right?

Mike

Yeah, but you didn't do it with the tools that danang understands ... a drinking glass and a flimsy plastic ruler.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: SHOULD I BUY BITCOINS?
« on: February 07, 2021, 08:59:05 AM »
I tossed $2500 at Ethereum a couple months ago. Somewhere between 150%-200% return at the moment; it's pretty volatile. But I'm keen on the dApp concept and think in the long term there will be a move to decentralized implementations of more global functions.

Then again, SkyNet ...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Proof
« on: February 04, 2021, 11:54:32 PM »
Authorized access to information classified Top Secret has nothing to do with rank, nor is limited to the military. A private (with the appropriate clearance level) can have access to information a general does not have, because access to classified information is based on both clearance level and need to know.

Flat Man, ever consider that your father was pranking you? Old Air Force guys love that stuff, especially if they know they have sons that are particularly gullible or conspiracy minded. Is this a last "Here, pull my finger!" from the old man?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Why Should I Believe the Earth is Flat?
« on: February 04, 2021, 11:29:43 PM »
I am going into this as openminded as possible.
As openminded as possible for you doesn't appear to go very far, given the disdain and haughtiness you show in your other statements.

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The Lounge / Re: Air Fryer
« on: February 02, 2021, 12:17:37 AM »
The larger convection/toaster ovens (that have an air fryer setting) are amazing. I had to replace an ancient toaster oven, was curious about air fryers, and the Cuisinart TOA-60 not only replaced the toaster oven, but I hardly now ever use my standard oven. Fries (chips) made from raw potatoes come out wonderfully brown and crispy in about 25 minutes - I've never parboiled them. Toast is preternaturally uniform. Chicken thighs roast/fry amazingly. Small casseroles, roasted veggies, small batches of cookies - all come our great. But the reason is it's got room for stuff to cook - the tray/rack size is 12" x 10". I can't imagine those little upright ones with a 5-6" diameter basket are good for anything other than crisping up a half dozen frozen chicken nuggets.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Re: The attack on 'free speech'
« on: January 17, 2021, 12:09:12 PM »
Still waiting for a direct quote from Trump. I linked a direct link to the transcript above. Trump says to be peaceful. Show us where he incites violence. If you cannot do this then you have conceded your position.

Your inability to read and comprehend in context the entirety of the transcript you yourself linked to and insist on seeing short bites taken out of context is your problem, not mine.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Re: The attack on 'free speech'
« on: January 17, 2021, 11:55:02 AM »

Here is the transcript: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-13/transcript-of-trumps-speech-at-rally-before-us-capitol-riot

Trump says in that: "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."


As the saying goes: "Put a tablespoon of shit in a barrel of fine wine and you know what you have? A barrel of shit."

You want the quote that he incited violence? You have pointed to the 70-minute long quote above.

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