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The Lounge / Re: I am a pillar of sorrow!
« on: August 10, 2020, 01:16:08 AM »

Perhaps you could channel your disappointment, sorrow and rage into following on from the famous son of Beaver, Butch Cassidy, rob some banks, go on the lam to south America just don’t die in a shootout, avoid Bolivia.


Stoker based much of the story on the John Polidori novel spawned at the same time and contest as Shelley’s Frankenstein, and released under Lord Byron’s name, called The Vampyre, and likely got his history from a brief friendship with Armin Vambery a Turkologist and traveller of the east.

Just a gothic story with a suitably gory piece of history attached as background, the history being sufficiently historic, and from a time drenched in blood and mystery certainly not within living memory of anyone at that time, and nowhere on the scale of the Armenian and Nazi holocausts.

Get over it.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Beirut explosion
« on: August 04, 2020, 02:22:21 PM »


"Lebanon's Prime Minsiter Hassan Diab has said it is "unacceptable" that 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate were being stored in a warehouse."


What do they have to do with King John and his beef with the Barons?

The Lounge / Re: I have very sad news. Rabinoz has passed away.
« on: August 03, 2020, 12:33:36 AM »

Goodbye Rab, warrior for truth, heartfelt condolences to his family.


2 years’ time, the western seaboard and the North east join the Greater United Canadian confederation, Trumpelvania starts the biggest wall building project in history.

And the pièces de résistance, Trump finally repeals that job killing 13th amendment.  The ultimate regulatory roll back.

TV evangelism centralised under tighter regulation with taxes filtered to the wall building project, announce that the Trump family are blessed by Jesus, Donald becomes the “True Pope”, first edict that incest is not a sin if she’s a looker, increases his popularity in the south.

2 years’ time, the western seaboard and the North east join the Greater United Canadian confederation, Puritania starts the biggest wall building project in history.

Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Perseverence
« on: July 30, 2020, 01:15:47 PM »

Is that a gopher?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« on: July 29, 2020, 04:15:05 AM »
Biden is a moron but he is also very old moron who probably not gonna live through his presidency. If Kamala Harris becomes the president I will for sure leave the country for the reasons I don't wanna be banned so I won't say LOL

Can't think where you think you would fit in.

This Kamala women seems like a good outside bet for making a good job of it, for me it should be Ocasio Cortez.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Neowise
« on: July 29, 2020, 12:59:17 AM »

In the face of mounting evidence and all his questions being answered, the intransigent has to conclude that those who responded in good faith are liars, whereas he, for fear of stumbling across something that would collapse his poorly made house of cards, makes excuses for not going out and finding some thing that millions of others did.

You are a man of no honour wise. 

The Lounge / Re: Werepenguin: Bodysnatcher Edition
« on: July 28, 2020, 08:54:27 AM »

Hey, you know what Boydsta? I think I might mosey on over and give it a go.

The Lounge / Re: What Would You Have Done . . .
« on: July 28, 2020, 07:37:12 AM »

I’d have probably, transferred  all my stocks from service industries into PPE makers and big Pharma and hung on as  long as possible before locking down to maximise my investments, in a few months I’d liquidise those and buy lots of cheap beach side properties from bankrupted holiday let companies and maybe a big jet.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Roll 20 D&D
« on: July 27, 2020, 02:21:25 PM »

So, A how do I generate a character and B, my best time is 8-11pm GMT which isn't an option 4-7EST, I realise that this maybe a big roadbump to playing as at weekends I'm usually not available either, to which I will say I am fine if this doesn't fit well with other players, and I'll watch.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: "Alone in universe"
« on: July 27, 2020, 06:54:30 AM »

Well look at us!

It’s clearly not a scientific position to take a singular example and extrapolate a universe, but there are surely certain baseline criteria for existence. For instance, everyone of us alive today is the ancestor of survivors, and I’m not being trite, this is vitally important for a number of reasons.

Psychologically it gives us a superiority complex, we’re survivors right, winners, and to the winners the spoils as everyone is aware.

But at the expense of true species introspection, because all those peace-loving navel gazers got rolled by our two-timing psychotic violent forerunners, and always will. Something like 16Million men from the Pacific through to the Caspian sea are said to contain DNA from Genghis Khan (, in 1,000 yrs time how many will have the Dali Llama’s?

The upshot of  this type of selection, is a species that will brag of it’s rise, consider that this was what it was born for but not realise that it has inherited a dying graveyard, with an over extended population and depleted natural resources until it is too late.

Too bleak a prognosis? I mean we are all moral people, able to see and condemn the failures of those before us, join Greenpeace and Amnesty, well look at the current crises, where were those morals in the people who stripped the shelves clean on pandemic day one?

We are governed by biological imperatives, It would be no different anywhere else, evolution would produce beings with survivability the same as fire ants, Cane toads and viruses, but if we are let loose from the constraints that normally hold our population under control, we will breed until either we consume all, and starve or some other organism arises and uses us as the foodstuff or vector of reproduction.

That is why I think there is no spacefaring races, they did as we are doing, and died before they got there.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Neowise
« on: July 27, 2020, 04:12:45 AM »

So Wise, what is your conclusion, did you manage to get somewhere you could seriously look for this or are you happy to glance up at a light polluted sky and call bullshit in the face of all the evidence?

Flat Earth Debate / Re: What are comets?
« on: July 26, 2020, 01:17:58 PM »
Me, my family, photo taken on Saturday (11th July), from a 500ft high chunk of rock in the Bristol channel UK.

Got some landscape, water, city lights, sunset, clouds, and the comet. Little be of everything.  Nice shot.
I did take another shot at lower magnification the same night as that other one I posted with the hill across the valley, and a satellite I guess, in the shot.



How is it irrational? It's certainly more rational to question them than to blindly accept them. Furthermore, accepting any historical fact can be considered irrational, since the only real knowledge is one that's not based on experience, and the only way to know about historical facts is by experience. More mildly, what reason tells us has more weight than what history tells us, since history isn't based on reason, but on less reliable ways of knowing.

So reading the above, we are to question history because it isn’t based on reason (?), but you can confidently spout what your social science teacher has fed you without filtering it, despite (as Markjo points out) if society had been behaving “rationally” how come we have wars, famine, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, climate change, etcetera?

The troll is strong in this one. 

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Neowise
« on: July 23, 2020, 01:22:10 PM »
Anyway for those that appreciate this, taken Tuesday night by my son on Lundy Island (UK) between the old lighthouse and the keepers quarters

It has a satellite trail above left of the lighthouse

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Neowise
« on: July 23, 2020, 02:41:55 AM »

Wise, did you see the Hale-Bopp comet in 1997? That was clearly visible, with the naked eye for about 18 months, for a while it was brighter than all the stars bar Sirius and was stunning. 

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Neowise
« on: July 23, 2020, 02:07:40 AM »

So you agree that it is there then?

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Roll 20 D&D
« on: July 22, 2020, 02:27:08 PM »
I've never played other than boxed games of Stormbringer, is it something you need to have done or can you pick it up on the fly?

Mmm, 9pm EST is 1.30 in the morning here.

The Lounge / Re: First Virus
« on: July 22, 2020, 04:25:50 AM »

And spell check.


Whatever Shitfer, it’s patently obvious that post was aimed at the crowd photo previous, your faux outrage is sickening, all the more so as you are probably the nastiest person here, showing scant regard when labelling all and sundry with the worst of labels (racist, Paedophile), by twisting words and inventing shit in that dingy little mind you have.

You proscribing words and phrases on the basis of taste whilst calling people morons and retards is beyond absurd, the day you can take the moral high ground is the day the world truly is flat.


Thank you Dave, see Shitfer, it's not that hard.

He's being a deliberate snowflake and looking for any excuse to accuse people of stuff, but doing a poor job.


I do not think that the NASA fan Britishes among us join with this good activity.

This is at least true of me, being of sound mind I neither want to be social, at any distance, with the cerebrally challenged, or potentially assist in the spread of a virus that may kill someone.
Colour me societally aware?


What do you think of disability support workers? Not sound of mind?

WTF are you on about now Shifty?

Are disability support workers refusing masks? Spit it out you are becoming tiresome.


Is MAGA-Man someone’s alt or a Russian bot that has collated the sayings of the orange amphibian and his followers from Dumbfuckistan to wind up the Librals?

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Neowise
« on: July 21, 2020, 02:37:35 AM »
No. I look with the naked eye and I can't see anything. Maybe it's because I couldn't see it magically whats imaginary. Red pill may help me if this would be matrix movie.

That’s why it’s called Neo-Wise.
I am talking about satellites. You are either unconsciously or delibarely confusing two issue. I have no claim about Neowise. I question only whether it exists and why it was claimed discovered on 27 March, although it was discovered after being observed in July.

Oh, tough crowd.  I thought it was a pretty good pun. 

Besides, you asked about seeing the comet earlier.
Yes, I asked it too. There are three points here I have mentioned,
1- Seing the comet
2- The time comet has been discovered
3- Existance of satellites

If you are not allowed out, like Plat's said, then tell us (encrypted) and we will try and spring you.

If this is not the case, then stop being an idle spoilt child and make a concerted effort to actually check the facts yourself, because every photo we have posted constitutes proof that you won’t accept, and no one here if they have any sense will pander to your whims like your mother obviously has done.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Neowise
« on: July 20, 2020, 07:55:46 AM »

You really don't get out much do you? Just for a day or two, if your government lets you, take a trip to a dark sky area and look up an hour or two after sunset, there are shitloads, no need for anything other than your eyes.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Neowise
« on: July 20, 2020, 07:15:41 AM »
No. I look with the naked eye and I can't see anything. Maybe it's because I couldn't see it magically whats imaginary. Red pill may help me if this would be matrix movie.

He reminds me of this;


Well it’s official, Covid19 is a front for societal control and group manipulation, forget the masks, 5G and creeping consumerism, they have just put up speed restrictions in our village saying, “Social Distancing, 20 Is Plenty”.

20mph? I can do that on my bike, how are the little children going to learn the dangers of traffic if they don’t lose a few friends or spend the summer in traction? This is a step too far.

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