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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The full rotating earth

« on: August 09, 2022, 08:10:39 AM »

I think I can see my house.

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The Lounge / Re: A Friendly Chat

« on: August 09, 2022, 08:03:52 AM »

I believe your dressing table is demanding that you upgrade it to nice shiny new self closing ball bearing drawer slides.

While it is out of character for gothic furniture, a smooth closing drawer creates joy in the hearts of everyone.

You peasant!
No. my flabber is gasted, this is strictly wood on wood (that’s bound to attract an Aussie) with just a smidgen of linseed oil to avoid jamming, you’ll have me putting drawer stops on and treating the woodworm next.   

Another thought occurred as to the unexplained refit problem, it could be some sort of demon puzzle, that the drawers can only be returned to the carcass in a particular sequence, maybe even at specific phase of the moon otherwise not only will it refuse to be reassembled but an evil djinn will be unleashed, then again I might have overdone the coffee intake today.

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The Lounge / Re: A Friendly Chat

« on: August 09, 2022, 03:33:30 AM »

Many years ago, we inherited a huge gothic arts and crafts dark wood dressing table from my grandmother with a triptych of heavy mirrors mounted on crenellated towers sporting turned spires and little drawers.
Looking at it closely it was made not by a master craftsman, but more of a spirited amateur but it suited my spouse’s goth heart, the bedrooms iron candle style chandelier, wall manacles and metal bed so it stayed.

The years however had begun to show, cracks, chips and scuffs, broken handles, gaps in some of the drawers, all these things had eroded its appeal, I suggested we upcycled it, so I dismantled it rubbed it down, painted it satin black and put new silver handles and knobs on it and carried it all back upstairs.

Here’s the thing, none of the drawers fitted. I know what you are thinking you judgmental bastards but the carcass ‘s where the drawers go were sound and I didn’t touch them and only three of the drawers needed work, but now none of them fitted, not tight with paint, they don’t go in the holes.

This revelation coincided with me asking where the fittings I had taken off, including mirror hinges with butterfly tightening screws the like of which I had never seen, that I had put on the marble hearth, were. To be told they had been tidied, my loved one’s euphemism for thrown away where we both go through a pointless ritualised search both knowing her borderline OCD has overridden sense and she’s lobbed them in the bin, which had been collected that morning.

For sanity’s sake I made a cup of tea and sat in the garden to ponder things, not my crazy partners thought process, this I know to be beyond me, but the non-fitting drawers.

There is only one feasible reason I can come up with.

Sometime betwixt the dismantling and attempted reconstruction, the universe had transitioned from expansion to contraction, and this has been only partially grasped at this early stage by its constituents, the drawers and carcass now being in different phase states.
Hopefully in the time it will take me to find replacement mirror hinges, possibly ones of a type that have not been made for over 100yrs, they will synchronise and I won’t have to set about them with my plane, time, which is probably now in reverse, will tell. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: War

« on: August 08, 2022, 08:57:03 AM »

I just had a vision of an alternate reality where the next PM of the UK made it one of the things he campaigns on to be retaking "The Colonies".

Shit, don’t rule that out, this current crop are so wedded to the populist golden agist, no clue what the fuck a policy is unless fed to them by Rupert, just wave a flag and salute a hundred year old anachronism and everything will work out fine, but don’t read the small print because we are robbing you blind, mentality.
And should we wake up to this then a mass attack by hang glider championed by the Mail in response to you not returning to us that woman who ran over a motorcyclist because the rest of the world drive on the wrong side of the road, who then snuck out of the country in a diplomatic bag, would very definitely be on the cards and a good way to unite the plebs before they are massacred or drift off on the trade winds and are eaten by Orcas.

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA Astronauts Get A Stern Finger Wag

« on: August 08, 2022, 08:25:47 AM »

Remind me to decline if I am offered a seat on an Aussie spacecraft.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: War

« on: August 08, 2022, 08:18:08 AM »

I think its time to try again. They need someone sensible in charge.

I don’t think I would be considered sensible in the US, a good third would want me crucified for not believing in a god, others (or the same?) would consider me a commie for wanting a redistribution of wealth, I hate Budweiser and the whole Superbowl thing is one long dreary commercial interspersed with pumped up jocks dressed as space gladiators chucking themselves around for 15 minutes in a stadium filled with flags and fat people.
I’d hate the food, the TV, the heat, the cars, I think Marmite is illegal. There are about 400 million too many guns for a sane society, no proper health care or democracy, too many ice cream flavours, not enough U’s in flavour, the tea is made of dust, grits are a thing and there’s no cricket.

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA Astronauts Get A Stern Finger Wag

« on: August 08, 2022, 07:48:21 AM »

I’m with Wolfie on this and if asked I would have probably thought, messy and embarrassing and seriously not worth the inevitable questions, is this a testosterone thing?

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA Astronauts Get A Stern Finger Wag

« on: August 08, 2022, 03:15:07 AM »

Just sticking it to the space cowboys on the premise that any bad cover helps the anti-NASA narrative. Sloppy woolly thinking to think that men won’t be jerks sometimes wherever or whoever they work for, but hey desperation is a thing, right?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?

« on: August 06, 2022, 01:07:50 PM »

and leave Kinder eggs for the kiddies courtesy of uncle Sam.

Excuse you? I think you meant Hershey's milk chocolate candy eggs? Or maybe Reese's egg-shaped peanut butter cups? My freedom translator got confused and thought there was some kind of weird Cadbury egg shaped thing you might be referring to with toys inside and that is an abomination. I'll have to consult a Watchtower magazine to figure out the proper penance for this kind of blasphemy.

Colour me astonished and shamed. Kinder eggs are so irredeemably shit I just took it for granted they hailed from the US and not being aware that American children are incapable of reading instructions or have such shallow learning curves that they would just consume toy and all to their detriment and that said confection is therefore considered lethal, surprises me perhaps more than it should.
I stand corrected.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?

« on: August 05, 2022, 08:33:05 AM »

Rather than Ginsu it’s pure gonzo weapon design, the next one will play ride of the Valkyries, plant a flag where the body stood, and leave Kinder eggs for the kiddies courtesy of uncle Sam.

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The Lounge / Re: A Friendly Chat

« on: August 04, 2022, 12:54:31 AM »

I too am a fan of Wasabi peas, so much so that I am pretty sure that my subconscious would veto urination into them. A quick interweb check on the side effects of Ambien reveals a propensity for sleep walking, talking, and eating, maybe the pot and the dried nature of the contents triggered a pot-noodle response that was never fully realized.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: War

« on: August 03, 2022, 09:10:17 AM »

I tried that a few years back, nobody noticed.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Dall-E AI

« on: August 03, 2022, 07:22:58 AM »

The one where flash floods cut off the two bottom floors and Rachel gets 28 days later rabies.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: War

« on: August 02, 2022, 07:14:59 AM »

She will be a sacrifice to Satan, as she’s a catholic and represents (if my memory serves) San Francisco which is Sodom by the sea, and then we can get on with the real end of all wars instead of fannying around in Ukraine, the real Christians will get to see their rapture not appear, this will be blamed on the poor for not buying the clergy enough Lear jets and coke, Tucker Carlson will be the last president of the USA, and will declare radiation poisoning fake news, his plastic skin will protect him better than most and satellites will track him long after all others have perished as he walks amongst his dead congregation collecting teeth.

Animals will rejoice and the earth after 10,000 years will become a paradise, god will decide that intelligence is overrated and ban it in any animal capable of gripping stuff and the whales will fill the oceans with song.


So, maybe a good thing, if you are a cockroach.

Cheery little soul aren't you just. 

Got any other good news?

And there will be a wailing and a gnashing of whitened teeth, these are not my foretelling’s Razor, someone called Matt said it at 10 to 1.

Murica has, succumbed to its god bothering roots, whilst the rest of civilization has been shucking of the chains of religion, albeit slowly. Unfortunately, it (the US) has doubled down on this rubbish and is now peopled in large part by mythomaniacs who should the sky start to rain fire, instead of panicking or pausing to think “Well we fucked that up.” Will be grabbing their bibles and running out with glee on their vacuous faces shouting beam me up Scotty or the scripture equivalent.

This is not my fault; I am but a humble chronicler.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: War

« on: August 02, 2022, 03:54:52 AM »

She will be a sacrifice to Satan, as she’s a catholic and represents (if my memory serves) San Francisco which is Sodom by the sea, and then we can get on with the real end of all wars instead of fannying around in Ukraine, the real Christians will get to see their rapture not appear, this will be blamed on the poor for not buying the clergy enough Lear jets and coke, Tucker Carlson will be the last president of the USA, and will declare radiation poisoning fake news, his plastic skin will protect him better than most and satellites will track him long after all others have perished as he walks amongst his dead congregation collecting teeth.

Animals will rejoice and the earth after 10,000 years will become a paradise, god will decide that intelligence is overrated and ban it in any animal capable of gripping stuff and the whales will fill the oceans with song.


So, maybe a good thing, if you are a cockroach.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: And down goes Uhura!

« on: August 01, 2022, 12:39:22 AM »

I think Chekov is still going.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: And down goes Uhura!

« on: August 01, 2022, 12:31:47 AM »

God i loved Uhura.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Status of Heiwa

« on: July 29, 2022, 08:58:19 AM »

Shit! Maybe a deity of some kind was trying to tell you something Boydsta, you don't want to piss off the god of mossy toenails or undiscovered spices or shaving! I suggest you quietly reimpose it and walk away.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Will it be our undoing?

« on: July 27, 2022, 01:01:52 AM »

You clearly didn't read the link I provided.

Yeah no I did, two things.

If you scroll down to the “Median technology costs by region” graph, onshore wind and Solar are cheaper in 4 of the 5 regions.

The report is done with the help of the nuclear energy agency, and it does state “For the first time, information on the costs of storage technologies, the long-term operation of nuclear power plants and fuel cells is also included.” What I would say about this is that these costs have been consistently undervalued, see the predicted costs of clean up I posted before, see also the list of ways that the lobbyists have wangled tax break after tax break where renewables are largely not able to do this.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Will it be our undoing?

« on: July 26, 2022, 02:18:42 PM »

Unless you use the levelised figures which take all costs into consideration.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Will it be our undoing?

« on: July 26, 2022, 07:29:03 AM »

Nuclear power is way more expensive than all other options, unless you use the industries figures that take out decommissioning and take the subsidies as free money.

If you were to add in provision for another Fukushima, the current estimate  from Japan’s ministry of economy, trade and industry of $223.1 billion would rightly scupper any right minded investor, and this figure is just an estimate and doesn’t include money spent on sorting out the other methods of power generation and savings already mentioned and is tellingly already 4 times the 2011 guestimate.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Will it be our undoing?

« on: July 26, 2022, 06:36:57 AM »

What happened in Japan after Fukushima? Well as of 2019 only 9 of the 37 reactors had restarted commercially (because they are shit & dangerous & built over a seismic hotspot),
So they had to change the way they did things, by enacting energy efficiency principles and conservation they garnered 246 TWH (terawatt hours) which offset against the 233TWH from the loss of  nuclear power, on top of that they gained 70 TWH by renewables (mostly solar) so a net gain for a fraction of the cost in a time frame impossible for new nuclear.

This, Japan Change in Electricity Generation and Consumption FY2018-FY2010

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Flat Earth General / Re: Will it be our undoing?

« on: July 26, 2022, 02:27:41 AM »

But by any metric nuclear is not competitive or able to come online quick enough, the only reason people are sucked into this dead-end thinking is the nuclear lobby is well funded and riddled with money options for investors whereas solar and wind can’t make investors as happy because they have no control of the source.

If this time lag and expense were factored into the equation, nuclear wouldn’t be on the table.

This from Forbes about US subsidies.

the industry’s immense lobbying power has now hatched a brazen new way to make taxpayers or customers pay for existing nuclear plants for a seventh time, and disadvantage their most potent supply-side competitor (modern renewable power), and reduce and retard climate protection while claiming to increase it. Rarely have so many been so deceived so thoroughly, for so long, at such cost.
The previous six forms of payment were:
1.     Taxpayers paid to create the nuclear industry, build its fueling infrastructure, and finance the reactor fleet via a vast array of often opaque and generally permanent federal subsidies that cost more than building the plants and more than the value of their output.
2.     Through generally regulated utility tariffs, customers paid for the plants’ construction and financing, including a just and reasonable return on capital.
3.     Customers paid over decades for the plants’ operation, including major repairs, power upratings, and safety upgrades.
4.     Many customers reimbursed owners for “stranded-asset costs” totaling upwards of $70 billion to support the owner-demanded transition to competitive wholesale markets.
5.     Over the past few years, when reactors generating 2 percent of U.S. electricity proved unable to compete in those wholesale markets (though most of their owners kept their finances secret and kept reporting profits to investors), the owners persuaded state legislators in Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Ohio to vote billions of dollars a year for new multi-year operating subsidies.
6.     Exelon, the nation’s largest nuclear operator and the leading player in the previous two steps, successfully sought Federal regulatory approval for greater capacity payments from power pools whose auctions found nuclear power uncompetitive and whose own rules were thrown off-balance by the new state subsidies. And now, as the annual logrolling season of “tax extenders” rolls around in Congress:
7.     For the third year, Exelon is advancing a “Nuclear Powers America Act” to create a new federal investment tax credit on nuclear fuel and maintenance expenses to “help level the playing fuel with other clean energy sources”—whose temporary tax credits are meanwhile being phased down or out. This follows a longstanding pattern of giving different kinds of subsidies to renewables than to nuclear, then “leveling the playing field” by trying to duplicate renewables’ specific forms of subsidies with new ones for nuclear, but never the reverse.
This saga of selling the same hay seven times—and those clever lawyers aren’t done yet—doesn’t include many additional federal and state subsidies. It also doesn’t include an emerging potential scam that could end up with ratepayers’ and federal taxpayers’ getting stuck with vast decommissioning and waste-management liabilities. This emerging pattern has an LLC buy a closed reactor. Absent oversight or rules to stop misbehavior, the LLC could then choose to strip the accumulated customer-funded multi-billion-dollar cash decommissioning fund, not finish the job, and walk away, leaving the parent company whole and electricity customers or taxpayers holding the bag. Watch this space.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Will it be our undoing?

« on: July 26, 2022, 12:59:39 AM »

Yeah, but you seem to be missing the main points.

After 3-mile Island they said lessons were learned, after Windscale, the same, after Chernobyl and Japan guess what? Saying the next generation will be better is to ignore that we still have the old ones running, manned by people and beset by the same problems, many are on coastal sites that will be vulnerable to the same kind of inundation as Fukushima as the seas inevitably rise, France had to turn down production this year due to cooling problems due to heat and drought across Europe, which will only get worse.

The expense and time taken to get anything like enough power online is ridiculously costly and way too late, the same money spent on renewables and proper insulation of homes and businesses, could be done almost immediately, a comprehensive effort to insulate all premises would slash the need for as much building of plants as needed now, a far better option and way way cheaper.

This push for nuclear comes from an industry that thought it could make and suck in money and may well do in some far future but at the moment its like saying world hunger is a problem give shit loads of money to the caviar producers rather than wheat, except that sturgeon are less likely to explode and make a city uninhabitable for the foreseeable future.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Will it be our undoing?

« on: July 25, 2022, 01:51:25 PM »

While it is true that spent nuclear fuel is being recycled this has not meant that permanent deep repositories will not be needed.

 If used reactor fuel is reprocessed, the resulting liquid HLW must be solidified. The HLW also generates a considerable amount of heat and requires cooling. It is vitrified into borosilicate (Pyrex) glass, sealed into heavy stainless steel cylinders about 1.3 metres high, and stored for eventual disposal deep underground. This material has no conceivable future use and is universally classified as waste. France has two commercial plants to vitrify HLW left over from reprocessing fuel, and there are also plants active in the UK and Belgium. The capacity of these Western European plants is 2500 canisters (1000 t) a year, and some have been operating for three decades. Sellafield, UK, has produced over 6000 canisters of vitrified HLW. (From the World nuclear association).

The argument over where and how this should be done, whether or not to make these retrievable either because of unforeseen problems or new tech' that can use the material or make it safer, is ongoing and unresolved.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Will it be our undoing?

« on: July 25, 2022, 09:04:36 AM »

So, (As I said when I started this), we agree to differ on just about everything, because I don’t support nuclear means I’m a coal backer!

Until only the last few years, your options to power the world was a mix between coal or nuclear. There was no option 3. Being anti-nuclear meant preferring coal as an alternative. And this alternative was worse. Both for human life lost and environmental damage. The correct approach is to look at all the evidence in front of you, and make a decision on that. Not look at one piece of evidence "radiation is magic murder dust" and base everything around that.

Now that we have other sources, Im open to us pushing more towards them over Nuclear, and especially any fossil fuel.

check out Hanford nuclear reservation 2017) and how you interpret the phrase “failed to show any direct correlation between their radiation exposure and cancer or other disease”

The Hanford nuclear reservation is ancient when no one knew anything about the dangers of nuclear waste. How about looking at modern examples of waste disposal and management. Most radioactive waste also has half-life of a few years. Not everything has a 100 000 year half life. It matters what kind of waste it is.
The study I showed was a 50 year study that look at actual measured increase in cancer rates. So its pretty much accurate. A lot of studies are bad, it does not mean they are all bad.

I agree, nuclear would arrive too late to do anything. If the anti-nuclear rhetoric never took off, we would be in a much better world today. Pity it never did.

Yes, but Hanford and all the other cold war facilities along with Sellafield in the UK are still there and causing problems, look up the amount the US thinks it will have to spend on decommissioning Hanford and then realise that no one in the industry thinks this is anywhere close to the final number. And then look at Russia.

And you are right that high level waste is a fraction of the total, in the UK, for instance, high-level waste amounted to less than 3 percent of nuclear waste’s volume, but almost 97 percent of the inventory’s radioactivity, and not one country has a purpose-built facility to store that stuff after 70 odd years of nuclear power, not one.
(Finland is close but not done).

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Flat Earth General / Re: Will it be our undoing?

« on: July 25, 2022, 06:06:14 AM »

So, (As I said when I started this), we agree to differ on just about everything, because I don’t support nuclear means I’m a coal backer!, (I’m not, mass insulation and other non-fossil) , also, do we we believe that just because they say we have learned our lessons that means a damn (check out Hanford nuclear reservation 2017) and how you interpret the phrase “failed to show any direct correlation between their radiation exposure and cancer or other disease”. Because to show a direct correlation is impossible in the case of a stray particle and a damaged cell, and as the industry and its backers are pushing for the dropping of the precautionary principle of Linear No threshold, based on the argument above and the science largely carried out by the industry itself or by the Woods hole institute, itself partially funded by grants received from the nuclear industry via the Department of Defense,

And remember that much of the past details are covered by national interest legislation that forbids disclosure, that very rich interest groups such as the Heartland institute funded by Koch are running the exact same level of interference that agri-business did with DDT, including pushing that low levels are safe without recognising that it bio-accumulates and moves up the food chain, the same mechanism that made DDT dangerous and got it banned, and the tobacco industries amazing claims that a little is even good for you as the slowly emerging radiation hormesis theory, what’s that saying about history repeating?

That nuclear would arrive too late anyway to save a drowning world, about 14 years to get one up and running, that in any case the 150 or so already built on shorelines will have to be decommissioned or risk being inundated by the baked in sea-level rises in the pipeline, and that all through from excavation to disposal it produces (whether you like it or not) hazardous conditions and material, then renewables and insulation, plus ploughing R&D into battery and storage makes way more sense to me.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Antarctica - A wall of ice?

« on: July 22, 2022, 08:44:04 AM »

911 or a Taycan?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Will it be our undoing?

« on: July 22, 2022, 06:49:53 AM »

And there we are, I don’t fully trust the Japanese about this, losing face in front of the world is humiliating to the country in a way westerners do not understand.

When the Chernobyl explosion was making that wonderful wildlife refuge it was dosing Europe in a mixture of radioactive dust, if it hadn’t had been for the Swedish thinking they had a leak at one of their plants and then tracing back the plume with satellite imagery, the Russians would probably not admitted it happened.

Even so 10,000 British upland farms were put on restriction, 4 million sheep that couldn’t be sold unless checked for radiation and the ban not lifted for 26 years.

The death and injury toll depends on who is collating the figures as radiation kills by mutation and you can’t say one cancer is down to radiation, you can look for rises in figures against “normal” times, but what’s normal.

And this goes to the heart of how denialists/sceptics work, when does one become the other, is that scientist working for a think-tank funded by a guy who gets a cheque-book from an interested party? Or is that government minister tanking a green initiative going to end up on the board of a firm being paid millions as a consultant, that if you could follow the funding of that company through shell and offshore accounts, derives from one that made a killing on that decision 15 yrs ago?

We could go back and forth on nuclear power, its financial cost, its cleanliness, and safety against other comparable industries and neither of us would probably budge, ultimately on the judgment of could this (Chernobyl) happen again only worse, we have come to different conclusions.

Many denialists come to believe in the batshit stuff via these sorts of debates, seeing a glimpse of hidden forces where once they took things at face value can undermine a whole world view.

Radiation is not some magical murder dust that kills you on sight.

This is exactly what the point of the whole discussion here is about. Science vs some belief generated from other random sources.
And here you have yourself admitting that you dont trust X, Y or Z scientific communities due to it not fitting your prior beliefs.
Go read the actual research. There are entire communities that live without any detectable ill effects in areas with naturally occurring radiation higher than what most nations allow anyone to be exposed to. There is a lot of "radiation is murder dusts" belief going on, and your caught in it.
The TOTAL follow up death and mutations following Fukushima, Chernobyl, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are less than what coal plants cause in deaths per YEAR. Realistically, if you have been against Nuclear, you have been pro coal. Only now are we developing an alternative to either. So yeah, Green Peace have been pro-coal for at least 2 decades.

I don’t think you read the words I wrote, and yes this is where bias enters, for both of us.

There were scientists working for the tobacco industries and the makers of DDT and a host of other examples of where a large industry and/or government has pushed an agenda ahead of public health.
When I said I didn’t trust the figures coming from the Japanese it was for this reason not that I don’t trust scientists per-se.

Take this, The International Atomic Energy Agency, said that health studies on liquidators have “failed to show any direct correlation between their radiation exposure” and cancer or other disease.
The people – who became known as “liquidators” due to the official Soviet definition of “participant in liquidation of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant accident consequences” were cleaner uppers, 100’s of thousands of firefighters, engineers, military troops, police, miners, cleaners and medical personnel.
If you are a fan of nuclear this would be enough, but as an “intergovernmental forum for scientific and technical co-operation on the peaceful use of nuclear technology and nuclear power worldwide.” Should I take their word when:

Viktor Sushko, deputy director general of the National Research Centre for Radiation Medicine (NRCRM) based in Kiev, Ukraine, describes the Chernobyl disaster as the “largest anthropogenic disaster in the history of humankind”. The NRCRM estimate around five million citizens of the former USSR, including three million in Ukraine, have suffered because of Chernobyl, while in Belarus around 800,000 people were registered as being affected by radiation following the disaster.
Even now the Ukrainian government is paying benefits to 36,525 women who are considered to be widows of men who suffered as a result of the Chernobyl accident.
Mortality rates in radiation contaminated areas have been growing progressively higher than the rest of the Ukraine. They peaked in 2007 when more than 26 people out of every 1,000 died compared to the national average of 16 for every 1,000.

Should we trust the people who are there to forward the use of something? You would hope so. Or the NRCRM (hardly a random source!) dealing with the aftermath?

So, no I don’t consider that I am caught up in anything, I notice you glossed over the centuries to 120,000 year time line for the habitability of Pripyat, this alone questions your implication that it’s not that bad to live in a nuclear fallout zone, maybe you could canvas the 36,525 widows.


Most of this was from an article by the BBC from a report by Kate Brown, a science historian at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), you know, just random stuff.
ttps://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190725-will-we-ever-know-chernobyls-true-death-toll

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Favorite YouTube channels

« on: July 21, 2022, 02:51:50 PM »

Okay, while Peterson is a prig and shouty with it, and his dragging in of his hatred of gender politics  as an important reason for the war is a stretch, I find myself agreeing on several points.

We, (the west) will not win the war. It would appear that the west thinks that the slow degradation of Russia's military will conclude in a capitulation of Russia's ambition there, this will never happen.

The underlying basis's for the conflict, (and as he says, including Putin's unconscionable action and his hubris) do include the west's appropriation by assimilation of former soviet countries with their vast importance in its history and their equally vast strategic and economic value. This was a monumental stupid and arrogant misreading of geopolitics.

The consequences he extrapolates are undeniably happening already and are liable to snowball in the very near future.

To imagine that the good guy wins this, or even that the good guy really exists in this context is massively delusional.

All the same, he is very difficult to watch.