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How about a whirlpool at the center in the North Poll as it was described in "A Letter Dated 1577 from Mercator to John Dee"
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1150242
I wouldn't bother making the point if you aren't willing or able to defend it. Aren't you able to summarise the aspect of your model that justifies your statement, and apply it convincingly?I've done so. I'm willing and able to defend it, but if you're too lazy to click a link what would the point be in expecting you to engage with an actual discussion?
I find it interesting there are more anti flat earth trolls on this site than there actually are flat earthers. They say the elite always control there opposition by taking a lead in their movements, and thereby confuse and misdirect the people who are actually onto the truth, and this site is a prime example. If you thought something was completely ridiculous, would you spend hours of your time posting and talking about it? Im not on the bachelor forum talking about whether or not the show is fake, because I know it is, so im not going to waste my time, whats your guys excuse? Gotta earn your pay cheque I guess
On another thread, you have eloquently defended this site as being a site of scientists, where evidence in support of FET arises from comparing different models. Your post above would have been a perfect place to include a bit of science.I can provide bucket loads of evidence that would appear to reject your claim. Can you provide evidence that supports your claims?Click my sig. I'm not going to outline my model from scratch every time something related gets brought up.
What? Do you care to substantiate your claims, or do you always just make stuff up and try to pass it off as some kind of evidence?
According this map, why does it take longer to fly from Argentina to Moscow than from Argentina to Australia?
To Moscow 18 hours
To Australia 15 hours
Nobody claimed that the distances on that map are exact. The map is a general representation of the layout of the continent.
It has nothing to do with rocket technology, space itself would tear anything apart that got too high.Imagine you run a space agency, you firmly believe space travel is possible and has been done, and you fail; no matter how you adjust and correct, you fail.What if you get a bunch or really smart people together and they incrementally improve rocket technology until they are finally able to get into space successfully?
To Jwrichins,
If you don’t believe my temperature information, I suggest that you read the webpage of UCAR Center for Science Education, which has and edu ending and thus is some type of university. - https://scied.ucar.edu/shortcontent/thermosphere-overview
Also I would like to point out to you, that the companies that “develop” the satellites have very close relationship with NASA and NASA gives projects to them.
Do you really want me to Google the distance of the said flight .
That's what it will be as the earth is Flat REtard
The link provided proves this there 1000's of flights full flights shown in the Northern Hemisphere.
There are hardly any full flights shown in the southern hemisphere.
If they shown the full flights in the southern hemisphere it will debunk their IMAGINARY GLOBE
The link to flight tracker 24 below proves this:
https://www.flightradar24.com/-31.45,-286.71/2
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Yes please. And then I'd like you to explain how the flightpath and distance could possibly be the same if the Earth were flat as they are on a globe.
The Earth is Flat REtard.
So the flights paths are correct on a flat earth which is why they can't show the southern hemisphere flights as it would debunk your IMAGINARY GLOBE.
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
You know Australia's in the Southern Hemisphere, don't you? How can a Dubai - Sydney flight path be correct on Flightradar, but a Jo'burg - Sydney flight path not be correct?
What are you talking about?
It is not possible to see the full flight path from Sydney to joburg.
Any full flight shown across the southern hemisphere oceans will debunk your IMAGINARY GLOBE as we can see from the link provided.
https://www.flightradar24.com/-31.45,-286.71/2
These two videos might help you understand the true shape of the Earth.
Flight paths Explained.
Six Emergency Landings that debunk the globe.
Do you want some more or are we finished here ?
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Do you really want me to Google the distance of the said flight .
That's what it will be as the earth is Flat REtard
The link provided proves this there 1000's of flights full flights shown in the Northern Hemisphere.
There are hardly any full flights shown in the southern hemisphere.
If they shown the full flights in the southern hemisphere it will debunk their IMAGINARY GLOBE
The link to flight tracker 24 below proves this:
https://www.flightradar24.com/-31.45,-286.71/2
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Yes please. And then I'd like you to explain how the flightpath and distance could possibly be the same if the Earth were flat as they are on a globe.
The Earth is Flat REtard.
So the flights paths are correct on a flat earth which is why they can't show the southern hemisphere flights as it would debunk your IMAGINARY GLOBE.
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
Do you really want me to Google the distance of the said flight .
That's what it will be as the earth is Flat REtard
The link provided proves this there 1000's of flights full flights shown in the Northern Hemisphere.
There are hardly any full flights shown in the southern hemisphere.
If they shown the full flights in the southern hemisphere it will debunk their IMAGINARY GLOBE
The link to flight tracker 24 below proves this:
https://www.flightradar24.com/-31.45,-286.71/2
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
What would that prove.
I would need a flight from UK to Australia and then a Flight from Australia to South Africa.
I would of thought it would cost a fair bit more than £900 .
I wouldn't be able to go anyway the only spare weeks I have are already filled with booked holidays.
So long as you travel by way of the Middle East, a flight to Australia will do just fine (sorry Rabinoz!) - it's got a nice long segment over the Indian Ocean where flights "disappear" and "reappear" on Flightradar. Don't worry about dates, I'm sure no one reading this minds waiting a bit until you've got a week or two free.
But in the meantime, it would be really interesting to hear what you think will happen. Let's imagine your Dubai - Sydney flight has just reached cruising altitude. The seatbelt sign is off. What happens now? What direction do you fly in? For how long and at what speed?
No that is incorrect.
The route in dispute is the alleged none stop direct flight from Sydney to joburg the flight from Uk to Dubai to Australia makes perfect sense on a flat Earth Map .
To verify this alleged direct route from Sydney to joburg I would switch on my GPS and I'm sure it would debunk your IMAGINARY GLOBE.
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
What would that prove.
I would need a flight from UK to Australia and then a Flight from Australia to South Africa.
I would of thought it would cost a fair bit more than £900 .
I wouldn't be able to go anyway the only spare weeks I have are already filled with booked holidays.
What are you talking about?
I suggest you click on the flight tracker link.
https://www.flightradar24.com/-31.45,-286.71/2
You will observe that there are 100's of flights above oceans in the Northern Hemisphere.
You will also observe that there are No flights above the large ocears in the southern hemisphere this is because if they show these flights it will DEBUNK YOUR IMAGINARY GLOBE.
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False .
You are funny. I've just had a look on Flightradar, and there are flights visible over oceans all over the southern hemisphere. Rabinoz has very gallantly tried to help you out by explaining how Flightradar tracks flights, and the impact this has on how transoceanic flights appear in both the Northern and Southern hemispheres. Flightradar itself has a handy "How it works" page https://www.flightradar24.com/how-it-works which explains the factors that limit its ability to show actual aircraft positions. There is, in short, plenty of information available to explain how this works. If you were to read it, it might save you the trouble of posting a few of those "your strange heliocentric religion is false!"s.
Oddly, you have consistently failed to engage with the most basic point of all - which is that if the Earth were flat, as you suggest, most flights in the Southern hemisphere would cover greater distances at much higher speeds and follow completely different headings than they do in reality. In many cases, the aircraft that fly the routes in question are not capable of the speeds and distances that would be required. And every one of those aircraft is full of hundreds of people, who are all witness to the actual course and speed followed by that aircraft. When I flew to Australia a couple of years back, I could see the Gulf of Oman, the Southern tip of India, Sri Lanka and then Australia itself at exactly the time that the plane's moving map display said I would. I'd actually be interested in hearing how you think that could be so.
I'm not interested in your Heliocentric nonsense.
I'm not interested in your Heliocentric stories.
The readers can make their own minds up when they look at this flight tracker link:
https://www.flightradar24.com/-31.45,-286.71/2
The reason they can't show full flights in the southern hemisphere is because it will DEBUNK THEIR IMAGINARY GLOBE.
This is why they disappear then reappear near their destination.
As the readers can see from the link their are 100's of flights shown over the oceans in the northern hemisphere.
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
If we crowdfunded you a flight to Australia, would you go?
What are you talking about?
I suggest you click on the flight tracker link.
https://www.flightradar24.com/-31.45,-286.71/2
You will observe that there are 100's of flights above oceans in the Northern Hemisphere.
You will also observe that there are No flights above the large ocears in the southern hemisphere this is because if they show these flights it will DEBUNK YOUR IMAGINARY GLOBE.
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False .
A question for you Heliocentrics :
If the Earth is a Globe like you say why do you feel the need to lie all the time?
And because you have been proven to be Liars why should anyone believe a word that you say ?
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
#shutdown.
You have already established that different conditions etc lead to differences in the appearance of the atmosphere...You're saying I established that different conditions etc. can lead to the total apparent absence of the blue atmospheric layer? Please quote where I established this.You have accepted the much more obvious difference between the appearance of the atmosphere over the planet's dark side in the ISS video and the low earth orbit photographs without comment.I have accepted that the earth exhibits a visible atmosphere, even at night. How exactly does this mean I've established that different conditions etc. can lead to the total absence of a visible atmospheric layer?The odd thing about your original post is that you've then gone on to suggest that differing appearance means that the "blue marble" photograph is in some way fake. That's a big claim for you to make, and doing so on the basis that it looks a bit different to you doesn't really cut it.My claim isn't that it merely looks different, but that it is totally absent; it is on the basis of this inconsistency that I am positing it must be an artist's rendering. Incidentally, a corollary to this position is that all images of the earth that depict this absence must also be artistic renderings.
You need to re-read the thread. You are not at all getting what is being discussed here.
Other than that the atmosphere looks different...Here's the difference: Present VS absent. Is that not a significant difference?
The burden of proof is on you to establish that different conditions, different distances, different equipment, and whatever additional factors you'd like to include account for this incredible difference.
After surfing through the forums, I came across this post by annoying forum spastic rabinoz, which included The Blue Marble, and noticed something that never caught my attention before: The familiar blue haze we see that separates the atmosphere from the black sky in all high-altitude photos/videos is absent. Let me provide some photos to demonstrate what I'm talking about.
In all these photos, a distinctive blue glow is visible all along the earth's edge/circumference.
Even this photo, taken from the cockpit of a fighter jet at high altitude, clearly shows the separation between the blue atmosphere and black sky:
Further, in this video, one of the most beloved of the roundies, we can see the said separation and even that between the light-polluted, yellowish nighttime atmosphere and the black sky:
So there is a clearly visible atmosphere surrounding the earth, regardless of whether it's daytime or nighttime; this is an incontrovertible fact. Yet, in the famed Blue Marble photo, not a lick of atmosphere is seen:
Keep in mind that, aside from the cockpit photo, this is all NASA material. So what accounts for the inconsistency here? Why is the bluish atmospheric glow absent in the Blue Marble, but present in all other high-altitude photos? My contention is that the Blue Marble is an artist's rendering rather than a legitimate photo of the earth. What do you think?
(PS: I know that doubting the authenticity of NASA photos doesn't necessarily make one a flat earther and that the converse is also untrue, but there is nonetheless some relation between the two. At any rate, revealing NASA fakery does call the entire organization's credibility into question, which, as much of RET is supported by NASA evidence, punches a sizable hole into RET altogether.)
You Heliocentrics can believe what you want just don't expect me to believe in your religion.
Your Strange Heliocentric Religion is False.
