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Why would they make some fake and some genuine?
That's even sillier than the idea that they'd be trying to poison the people that listen to them. The anti-vax movement has been a devastatingly effective way of killing off the opposition. There are criminals, lies and manipulations here, but it's all based around encouraging people to think that denying vaccines is going against their wishes as opposed to playing into their hands. All the people who know the truth about the moon landing and about space travel and such, are all the people who're not going to be vaccinated.

You're doing their work for them. If you have any care about what you state on your website, you need to rethink your position.

So the antivax conspiracy theory is itself a conspiracy perpetrated by them?

Most antivaxxers objectively know that vaccines do not cause autism but are happy to perpetuate the myth as it gives them a sense of belonging. They know that when people go and eat fast food, sugary treats and wash it down with a soda, that that does far more harm to the body than a miniscule amount of whatever they fear in a vaccine. Yet they perpetuate that vaccines are dangerous and evil

I bet many of these people spare no thought to the rubbish they may put in their bodies from their diet. Yet a vaccine? That crosses a line!

Of course they know their claims are shit. Just like Heiwa knows. He just gets a rise from sounding like a total dumbarse and embarrassing himself
But COVID-vaxx is not a real vaccine!! COVID-vaxx is just a secret chemical mix that may kill you. Just check the producers and their medical background, if any. They are all criminals, IMHO.

No one gives a shit about your opinion. Honest or otherwise.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: If earth is round......
« on: June 17, 2021, 12:21:06 PM »
Is it original and uncompressed? Lets say it is - why throw in the other one unless you wanted to look like a condescending prick? Hardly a useful tactic to debate a flat earther with.

That other picture is not needed unless it is requested because the flat earther claims he doesn't see what you see. Normal people, not a problem to show straight up. Flat Earthers need more delicate handling because you are dealing with people who believe in a conspiracy and that they are being lied to by everyone. So taking into account that mindset, you need to debate catering for that.

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Eren, aka, you know...Has been watching too much Tucker again:
To think that guy used to champion against people watching TV and being told what to think by talking heads. Especially when it came to MSM shit

He's now a victim of it. What a waste

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Why would they make some fake and some genuine?
That's even sillier than the idea that they'd be trying to poison the people that listen to them. The anti-vax movement has been a devastatingly effective way of killing off the opposition. There are criminals, lies and manipulations here, but it's all based around encouraging people to think that denying vaccines is going against their wishes as opposed to playing into their hands. All the people who know the truth about the moon landing and about space travel and such, are all the people who're not going to be vaccinated.

You're doing their work for them. If you have any care about what you state on your website, you need to rethink your position.

So the antivax conspiracy theory is itself a conspiracy perpetrated by them?

Most antivaxxers objectively know that vaccines do not cause autism but are happy to perpetuate the myth as it gives them a sense of belonging. They know that when people go and eat fast food, sugary treats and wash it down with a soda, that that does far more harm to the body than a miniscule amount of whatever they fear in a vaccine. Yet they perpetuate that vaccines are dangerous and evil

I bet many of these people spare no thought to the rubbish they may put in their bodies from their diet. Yet a vaccine? That crosses a line!

Of course they know their claims are shit. Just like Heiwa knows. He just gets a rise from sounding like a total dumbarse and embarrassing himself

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: If earth is round......
« on: June 17, 2021, 11:15:08 AM »
I'm just telling you a better way to argue you point across to flat earthers man, I dont care if you succeed or fail in the end. If you found the raw image and got them to look at the photo themselves without the condescending help, you might better get your point across. Now you present this poor quality photo that's been through the 'photoshop' and expect serious answers?

More fool you

I can't even count how many times I had to post "condescending" pictures because people here were confused and swore up and down a curving line was straight.

Some people NEED those circles and zooms and arrows because they can't seem to understand simple concepts like... curves.

If you think that "posting the raw image" would get any more serious answers, well I've got some swamp land in Florida to sell you.

But sure. New rule, no using Photoshop or even saying the name ever again because is scares flat earthers or something. Got it.  ::)

Well then it's a catch 22 isn't it? They NEED the circles and shit which basically says the image was put through the Photoshop but then they wont take your answer seriously because the photo was in some way Photoshopped

So maybe the only way to win is not play at all

There is no winning with a conspiracy nut. They didn't come to their beliefs via logic and reasoning, so logic and reasoning can't lead them out of it.

All anyone can do is point out the obvious flaws and contradictions and sit back to watch the denials and just outright bizarre behavior.

Like deciding that visual aids made with 'Photoshop' are poison or something. :P

There have been several 'conspiracy theories' that have ended up being correct. That's not to say they are all correct, but not every conspiracy theorist charged with being a nutter has been a nutcase

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Favorite YouTube channels
« on: June 17, 2021, 10:33:49 AM »
If you want to know anything about cars from an honest mechanic, Scotty Kilmer is a legend



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Flat Earth Debate / Re: If earth is round......
« on: June 17, 2021, 10:14:16 AM »
I'm just telling you a better way to argue you point across to flat earthers man, I dont care if you succeed or fail in the end. If you found the raw image and got them to look at the photo themselves without the condescending help, you might better get your point across. Now you present this poor quality photo that's been through the 'photoshop' and expect serious answers?

More fool you

I can't even count how many times I had to post "condescending" pictures because people here were confused and swore up and down a curving line was straight.

Some people NEED those circles and zooms and arrows because they can't seem to understand simple concepts like... curves.

If you think that "posting the raw image" would get any more serious answers, well I've got some swamp land in Florida to sell you.

But sure. New rule, no using Photoshop or even saying the name ever again because is scares flat earthers or something. Got it.  ::)

Well then it's a catch 22 isn't it? They NEED the circles and shit which basically says the image was put through the Photoshop but then they wont take your answer seriously because the photo was in some way Photoshopped

So maybe the only way to win is not play at all

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: If earth is round......
« on: June 17, 2021, 09:46:29 AM »
Yay, no reasoning, no explanation of what was "photoshopped", just a standard claim of fake photos when they don't show what you want. 
Same programmed responses from brainwashed cult members as usual.

If you think that photo wasn't manipulated then you're a moron

The black line along the bottom abruptly 'ends' and then the gradual line at the top which follows a gentle angle towards the centre suddenly has a sheer drop off to nothingness. I would also say the ocean looks to have a blur job around its edge as well as if it is being patched over something else

Also I'm pretty sure the giant white circle wasn't in the original photo :P But in seriousness it would have looked better to you the stock photo and ask the user to zoom in themselves. Think about the people you are debating with here and how much aversion they have to any manipulated image.
So you have no idea how photoshop/refraction/magnification works and you want to claim photoshopped in the way that makes it seem like you mean altered to show something that was never there but then when questioned you point to the magnification highlight that was added.  Yeah we know the circle wasn't there in the original image, it is a zoomed in portion to highlight an area.  Way to prove how dishonest and petty you really are yet again.

So discussing the refraction present in the image where you mentioned the "black line".  What do you think we're the temperature conditions of the water vs the air above?  How pronounced was the temperature gradient for a few feet above the water surface?  Your best guess please.  Then I may explain how refraction and mirages work, not for you, you are just another worthless dishonest FE sheep or internet troll, for anyone who actually is undecided.

I'm just telling you a better way to argue you point across to flat earthers man, I dont care if you succeed or fail in the end. If you found the raw image and got them to look at the photo themselves without the condescending help, you might better get your point across. Now you present this poor quality photo that's been through the 'photoshop' and expect serious answers?

More fool you

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: If earth is round......
« on: June 17, 2021, 07:26:23 AM »


How does posting a clear photoshop job advance the integrity of your position?

What part of the photo do you take exception to?  Is it the magnified detail or something else?

If you are debating with flat earthers who take exception to any photoshopped job, it is better practice to show them a raw unedited picture and invite them to zoom in on the part in question you want them to examine

Once you modify it with circles, arrows and a zoom, not only is it immediately condescending (which will always put the other off side), but it is a tactic people use when they want to disguise photoshopped jobs elsewhere. By making it apparent that the picture has been edited (even if in a harmless and honest way)

So you get the raw photo and you give them that. That would be better

Zooming in on a compressed picture always looks dodgy. You are not increasing the resolution with the zoom so it's not actually showing anything more anyway

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: If earth is round......
« on: June 17, 2021, 05:19:31 AM »
Yay, no reasoning, no explanation of what was "photoshopped", just a standard claim of fake photos when they don't show what you want. 
Same programmed responses from brainwashed cult members as usual.

If you think that photo wasn't manipulated then you're a moron

The black line along the bottom abruptly 'ends' and then the gradual line at the top which follows a gentle angle towards the centre suddenly has a sheer drop off to nothingness. I would also say the ocean looks to have a blur job around its edge as well as if it is being patched over something else

Also I'm pretty sure the giant white circle wasn't in the original photo :P But in seriousness it would have looked better to you the stock photo and ask the user to zoom in themselves. Think about the people you are debating with here and how much aversion they have to any manipulated image.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: If earth is round......
« on: June 17, 2021, 04:17:37 AM »


How does posting a clear photoshop job advance the integrity of your position?

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There is a little difference between vaccine and vaxx.
A vaccine contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. The agent stimulates the body's immune system to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, and to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future. Most babies are vaccinated at birth.
A vaxx is a man-made chemical mix that contains a magic, man-made, patented molecule that prevents  or stops fever, coughing, aches of all sorts and similar symptoms (incl. death) of the mysterious COVID-19 disease just discovered 2020. A side effect may be that you die early.

What kind of brain dead twerp are you. Vaxx is just a shortened nickname for lazy people who dont care to say 'vaccine'. Of course you know this and are trolling. Stick to the topic or GTFO

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Yeah the main government agent who organised the Jan 6 insurrection (let's call it for what it was and not soft peddle with weasel words like 'riot') was Donald Trump.

That guy is a cancer to democracy. F him

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Sci-fi nonsense.

Does light impart momentum on reflection - no. 

End of transmission (and fantasy).

Tell that to the bozos then who think painting an asteroid white could alter its path
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/223520/20180323/nasa-can-use-paint-to-save-earth-from-asteroid-impact.htm


Also read here regarding using lasers to propel a space craft
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_propulsion
Well someone thought a nuke could stop an asteroid but then it would break apart and still come at us.
And white paint is stupider than the nuke.

Well if you smashed a lot of white paint on an asteroid to cover it decades before a collision with Earth, it might be enough for the sun to nudge it ever so enough it avoids the Earth. Of course, decades before a potential collision is always a game of chance. You just can't get that level of assurity that far out

Nukes are dumb because now you have an irradiated asteroid and debris smashing into the Earth.

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Sci-fi nonsense.

Does light impart momentum on reflection - no. 

End of transmission (and fantasy).

Tell that to the bozos then who think painting an asteroid white could alter its path
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/223520/20180323/nasa-can-use-paint-to-save-earth-from-asteroid-impact.htm


Also read here regarding using lasers to propel a space craft
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_propulsion

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Yes, I know that

1. mRNA vaxxes are a new type to protect against infectious diseases;
2. mRNA vaxxes teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies;
3. The benefit of mRNA vaxxes, like all vaxxes, is those vaccinated gain protection without ever having to risk the serious consequences of getting sick with COVID-19.
4. mRNA is a single-stranded RNA molecule that is complementary to one of the DNA strands of a gene.
5. mRNA is an RNA version of the gene that leaves the cell nucleus and moves to the cytoplasm where proteins are made. During protein synthesis, an organelle called a ribosome moves along the mRNA, reads its base sequence, and uses the genetic code to translate each three-base triplet, or codon, into its corresponding amino acid.

So I simply do not trust this expensive, patented mRNA molecule vaxx protecting me from a mysterious disease. It sounds like complete nonsense to me.

If I suffer from COVID-19 symptoms I just take an aspirin tablet and ... soon I am healed.

So then get a vaccination that doesn't use mRNA like the Astrazenica vaccine.

Anyway, we all know you are full of crap just trolling for shits. Whatever man. ::) For someone so concerned about topic titles why dont you read this one and ask if vaccinations have anything to do with whether covid-19 is caused by a virus or Mycobacterium. Honestly this topic was done and dusted a long time ago.

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The vaccine is an intelligence test. If you're smart, you'll take it. If not, hopefully Darwinism takes you out from a preventable death

The world already has too many people. We can spare to cull a few of the dimwitted fools from existence

Oh, hi Heiwa :) so long!

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get whatever you can get
why wait and potentially catch corona

Exactly. 600K Americans died after catching Mr Corone unprepared. More than a million others elsewhere. Millions more suffering permanent damage.

I'll take whatever help I can get!

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: What Is A Scientist?
« on: June 15, 2021, 07:12:56 AM »
A scientist is anyone who asks questions and goes about seeking answers and trying to understand it

As a kid, I held a magnifying glass over ants. Or poured salt over leeches that stuck to me after playing in a creek. Working out how, why and trying to understand the effects is doing science

You dont need a degree to be a scientist. You only need one if you want other people with degrees to listen to you

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We only have the choice of Pfizer or Astrazenica

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Flat Earth General / Re: Do you believe the earth is flat?
« on: June 14, 2021, 05:44:23 PM »
There was a couple guys who flew to the moon once.
Can we trust you statue pohotoguy vs these moon guys?
They faked the moon landings in Mexico!

Australia had a major role in this Moon landing show and some of our outback could pass for a barren Moon given it was in black and white and no one would notice the red landscape

Now that we have color, the Mars landing can be staged here no problem

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My wife made an appointment to get her Pfizer vaccine for next month. She's already got the sore arm
When i got my first dose,i only got sore arm.
No other effects.

Well strangely in her case, shes got the sore arm but is yet to get the dose. That Pfizer sure is something!

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My wife made an appointment to get her Pfizer vaccine for next month. She's already got the sore arm

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The Lounge / Re: Coulde Be Worse . . .
« on: June 14, 2021, 01:05:07 AM »
My left shoulder feels like it's on fire. 
My left hip hurts from my spine around to my thigh. 
The middle toe on my right foot is swollen and stings when flexed. 
My left knee feels like usual.  >:(

How you all doing?  I know something hurts.   ;)

2 subluxed hips. One gave me trouble since early 20s, the other now recently. The joys of being an identical twin apparantly (increased chance for developmental displasia of the hip). So on bad days I have arthritis pain

Nearly 40 but still can't find a grey hair though. So that's ok. I don't look like an old man with arthritis.

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I cannot understand

Well said.
What?

LOLOLOL
Good news is that I avoided being vaxxed and am still in good shape.

Until of course, some other anti vaxxer Muppet like you, catches covid and following the mantra 'sharing is caring', shares it with you. Then you're f'ed

Boris Johnson and Donald Trump thought the same like you until they caught it. If they weren't 'VIPs', they could very well be 6ft underground by now given the extra special treatment they had to rid themselves of it

You're an idiot.

And you're a covid denying anti vaxxer moron

No dummy.  Trump isn't an anti-vaxxer.  Stating such is just blatent misinformation.  Thus your an idiot

Nah, he just believes they cause autism and has a lot of friends that are high profile anti vaxxers

https://www.insider.com/how-donald-trump-became-an-anti-vaccinationist-2019-9

Idiot ::) (I know you're a big fan of Trump and the repugnicans so this may come as a shock)

Also, my point was the disregard they had for the seriousness of the virus. Both Boris Johnson and Donald Trump both downplayed the threat to life it posed. Then they caught it and both nearly died. If they were any other regular pleb they likely wouldn't be here today

For this view, you accuse me of having an IQ of <25 ::)


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Yeah shifter, it's not always about you!!

Well, just so happens it is about me. Now are you going to come and help me find this ring or not?

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Are you saying it was in fact you? I am not surprised!

So what if it was? Not your business, not your problem.

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I cannot understand

Well said.
What?

LOLOLOL
Good news is that I avoided being vaxxed and am still in good shape.

Until of course, some other anti vaxxer Muppet like you, catches covid and following the mantra 'sharing is caring', shares it with you. Then you're f'ed

Boris Johnson and Donald Trump thought the same like you until they caught it. If they weren't 'VIPs', they could very well be 6ft underground by now given the extra special treatment they had to rid themselves of it

You're an idiot.

And you're a covid denying anti vaxxer moron

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You doxxing me mate? That's a bammable offence!


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I cannot understand

Well said.
What?

LOLOLOL
Good news is that I avoided being vaxxed and am still in good shape.

Until of course, some other anti vaxxer Muppet like you, catches covid and following the mantra 'sharing is caring', shares it with you. Then you're f'ed

Boris Johnson and Donald Trump thought the same like you until they caught it. If they weren't 'VIPs', they could very well be 6ft underground by now given the extra special treatment they had to rid themselves of it

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