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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Let's go do an experiment
« on: November 05, 2017, 11:28:19 AM »
Than they do a very bad job as there are so much photos that you claim prove the complete ice wall at the Antarctica.
You're starting to get it, well done.
Do you see how utterly pointless this whole subject of discussion is yet?

You are right, because all claims of the big fleat and the ice wall are pointless because expeditions have proven them wrong.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Let's go do an experiment
« on: November 05, 2017, 11:16:03 AM »
What kind of pictures do you have?
Plenty, you have to be clear about what you're actually looking for.

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If you have some, do you than confirm that the fleat of ships to protect the Antarctica does not exist?
Actually it's not ships, there are submarines.


Than they do a very bad job as there are so much photos that you claim prove the complete ice wall at the Antarctica.


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Denspressure vs Reality
« on: November 05, 2017, 11:05:50 AM »


What dies push my body forward when I slow down in my car?
The slosh of atmospheric compressed air.
Except the atmosphere compresses in the front of the car.  If anything it should push you back when you stop and forward when you accelerate. 
This is what happens to helium balloons in a car.
Yes it compresses in front of teh car and has to decompress as the car keeps moving into it, which is why it's pushed around the car to fill the lower pressure created by the rear of the car moving away through normal atmospheric pressure.
That compressed air slams into the air at the back constantly and back onto the car which creates a natural reaction to action in equal terms.
The same thing is happening inside the car, except inside of it it's closed so acts like a internal compression tank which holds a compression as long as a speed is attained but sill immediately slosh once brakes are applied, which is why you see the actions of what you see with a person in that car.

Still no explanation why I do not feel the pressure at the back of my body.
I only feel the pressure from the belt that holds me back.
With your idea I should feel the same pressure at my back from the atmosphere.

Please explain that for us.

Also you could address my other questions.
Sometimes you have to look a bit deeper into answers.
Try it.

It is not explained where the pressure of the sloshing atmosphere act on my body.
It can not my back because I do not feel it.

You have to explain it better that it is understandable.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Let's go do an experiment
« on: November 05, 2017, 11:03:20 AM »
Can we at least start calling it by the correct name? It's called an ice shelf.
I mean, yeah, that's kinda the whole point. What photo of an ice wall do you want that you couldn't pass off as an ice shelf?

What kind of pictures do you have?
If you have some, do you than confirm that the fleat of ships to protect the Antarctica does not exist?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Denspressure vs Reality
« on: November 05, 2017, 11:00:40 AM »


What dies push my body forward when I slow down in my car?
The slosh of atmospheric compressed air.
Except the atmosphere compresses in the front of the car.  If anything it should push you back when you stop and forward when you accelerate. 
This is what happens to helium balloons in a car.
Yes it compresses in front of teh car and has to decompress as the car keeps moving into it, which is why it's pushed around the car to fill the lower pressure created by the rear of the car moving away through normal atmospheric pressure.
That compressed air slams into the air at the back constantly and back onto the car which creates a natural reaction to action in equal terms.
The same thing is happening inside the car, except inside of it it's closed so acts like a internal compression tank which holds a compression as long as a speed is attained but sill immediately slosh once brakes are applied, which is why you see the actions of what you see with a person in that car.

Still no explanation why I do not feel the pressure at the back of my body.
I only feel the pressure from the belt that holds me back.
With your idea I should feel the same pressure at my back from the atmosphere.

Please explain that for us.

Also you could address my other questions.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Let's go do an experiment
« on: November 05, 2017, 09:04:37 AM »
Don't worry, I found a better version:
Well that's clearly digitally edited, unlike mine.
You don't need much of an indication of height when it's viewed from far enough away to see all that.

Please provide us with prove that the photo is digital edited and your posted photo not.
Did you travel yourself to the Antarctica?

Also how can you photo exist as it is claimed that a massive fleat is protecting that Antarctica and no one can reach the Antarctica?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Denspressure vs Reality
« on: November 05, 2017, 08:58:15 AM »


What dies push my body forward when I slow down in my car?
The slosh of atmospheric compressed air.

Than it should be measurable with a pressure gauge.
Also why does the atmospheric pressure sloshed?
Does it have inertia?
You claimed that gravity and inertia does not exist, but why does it exist with the atmosphere?

Can you show us research about your claim with trapped atmosphere in metal and why it is different in different materials?

Or can you show us how that could work in theory?

Can you show any research that would support all you claims?
Research that involves experiments and documentation of these experiments.

Or provide us with information how you came up with your idea and why do you think it is correct without any evidence.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Denspressure vs Reality
« on: November 05, 2017, 07:47:44 AM »
Denspressure is destroyed by objects that have the same volume but different mass and therefore density.
I believe the explaination for that is that things that seem less dense actually have atmosphere trapped in them.  So a 1 inch cube of aluminum has more atmosphere trapped in it than a 1 inch cube of lead.  So they actually would have different volumes if you could squeeze the atmosphere out of them.

Please show us how that is possible.
If a block of aluminium has atmosphere trapped inside it, it should be possible to show the different element of the atmosphere (like oxygen and nitrogen) in an analysis.
Please present us some results of the examinations of metal blocks.
As an engineer I like to know about this research because I never heard of that.
I think you are exactly right.  I don't personally believe it is possible but I have seen scepti give this as the explaination.

And that where he is absolutely wrong.
His whole Denpressure idea is not working in the reality and he could not show one little evidence that it could be possible.

Most time he simply ignores any questions.
Or in case of questions that relates to vacuum or very low pressure that it simply does not exist.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Denspressure vs Reality
« on: November 05, 2017, 06:16:26 AM »
How does denpressure explain what feels like gravity in a submarine?
Atmospheric pressure upon dense mass.

But the sub isn't in the atmosphere it's in the ocean and contains it own air. 
If I am in the front of the sub there is much more air behind me than above me.
Let say I am on the surface standing in a horizontal 10 foot diameter pipe that is 100 feet long.  I am not in the center but 10 feet from one end an 90 feet from the other end.
Both ends are capped and the pipe is lowered into the water.
I am 6" tall so I have 4 feet of atmosphere above me and 10 feet on one side and 90 feet on the other. 
Why do I feel a downward force and not a sideways force?
There is much more atmosphere on one side of me than above me shouldn't it push me sideways?
You feel all forces but you don't generally register some with your mindset because you are used to it.
However you will feel slightly different in a sub with the enclosed pressure but won't generally correlate it with anything other than a change of environment.

The same applies to an aeroplane under pressure, only opposite to the sub.
Alter any of them outside the normal standards and you'll certainly feel the difference.
I'm sure you'll know this if you've been on a sub or plane.
But that doesn't explain why I feel a downward force.  I am, at that point disconnected from the atmosphere.
You are pushing to the atmosphere and resisting the push back with your feet and body.

What dies push my body forward when I slow down in my car?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: November 05, 2017, 06:14:46 AM »
The system itself is broken and rewards greed.

No the people are that way, look at you you are complaining for what the money get used.
Think of the people that are against science. They would like to cut the money for research (like for new medicaments). They would pay all their money to promote religion and that religion is the only thing that will be told the children at school.
Who wants to live in that kind d of world.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: November 05, 2017, 04:22:52 AM »
I would glady give my money for better hospitals in Australia, and better infrastructure, definitely better schools. Greener and more efficient power generation, 100%.

I paid for this. My money paid for this, I don't find that acceptable and I will neither forgive nor forget.



They stole our money to kill innocent civilians in a pointless war based on lies.

The gloves have been off for a very long time.

You may would pay, but the majority would not.
Or do you think that all tax fraud done by the very rich people is done because they do not like how the money is spend?
And to clause the loop to Trump: he even bragged that he did not pay taxes and still he made billions.
Your ideal world would not work, it's only a nice Phantasie.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: November 04, 2017, 06:45:28 PM »
We can crowd fund projects we want and need.

There is no need to have the state steal from it's citizens.

My money could've willingly been spent on making Australia better instead of forcibly spent on the war on terror.

its simply not possible in reality.
do your really think that would work?
also who will organize these crowned funding?
if you set up all these organization you will have the same thing as a government only without a certain ability to get money they need.

you could try to get together money to finance a hospital from people. see how much you would get together.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: November 04, 2017, 04:28:54 PM »
Republicans have released their tax plan. http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gop-tax-reform-plan-bill-text-details-rate-2017-10

I did a quick calculation, probably somewhat flawed too since it was for the most basic of filer, but I did a single person making $50k.  The single person would get about $1.1k in tax relief under the plan. I haven't done the math for adding a kid or 2 yet, but that tax bill will likely be higher than under the old system due to the removal of the exemptions and the child tax credit going up only $600.  I'll crunch that number in a bit to see just how that situation would fair.

All in all, the $50k earner is about 2.2% better off.

EDIT: After further review, a single person with no kids making $50k would have $1078 lower taxes. That amount goes lower once you add kids in.

I pay over $400 a week tax, kinda sucks. I don't mind supporting Australia but every year I write letters complaining loudly that my shekels are being spent on bombs.

Taxation is theft.

OK let eliminate all taxes.
Let's see how than for example streets get build and how the criminals get punished if there is no police existing.



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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Denspressure vs Reality
« on: November 04, 2017, 04:19:26 PM »
Denspressure is destroyed by objects that have the same volume but different mass and therefore density.
I believe the explaination for that is that things that seem less dense actually have atmosphere trapped in them.  So a 1 inch cube of aluminum has more atmosphere trapped in it than a 1 inch cube of lead.  So they actually would have different volumes if you could squeeze the atmosphere out of them.

Please show us how that is possible.
If a block of aluminium has atmosphere trapped inside it, it should be possible to show the different element of the atmosphere (like oxygen and nitrogen) in an analysis.
Please present us some results of the examinations of metal blocks.
As an engineer I like to know about this research because I never heard of that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: November 03, 2017, 03:37:07 PM »
Tax policy is too boring for most people to get outraged over.
True, except if trump is behind it. People love to bash trump, so it will create outrage.

That's because people know that he is a liar.
As we see now the Trump campaign had connections to Russia and all of his staff lie about it.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Denspressure vs Reality
« on: November 03, 2017, 09:33:16 AM »
How does denpressure explain how it works in low pressure environments?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Denspressure vs Reality
« on: November 03, 2017, 08:25:07 AM »
Scepti you are the only one in the world that "understands" your model. You are the only one in the world who has seen any evidence or experiments in favour of it.

Out of over 7 billion people, no one is smart enough to understand what you understand. You are the only one with the knowlege that you know is true. There is actually a medical term for that however I think you know it and it's unnecessary to bring it up.
When 7 billion people take the time to get to know my thoughts on my model and they fail to understand any of it, then you have a point.
However, you can't make a judgement based on a handful of people, especially some that's got no intention of ever looking into it.

did you try to explain your ideas to 7 billion people?
how do you know that not all of them refuse your idea?

I claim that you could not convince one person here that your idea is correct and that gravity does not exist.
I'm not particularly interested in what people like you think, to be perfectly honest.

I know that, because I and others have you proven wrong.

show us one person that you could convince from your idea.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Denspressure vs Reality
« on: November 03, 2017, 08:00:05 AM »
Scepti you are the only one in the world that "understands" your model. You are the only one in the world who has seen any evidence or experiments in favour of it.

Out of over 7 billion people, no one is smart enough to understand what you understand. You are the only one with the knowlege that you know is true. There is actually a medical term for that however I think you know it and it's unnecessary to bring it up.
When 7 billion people take the time to get to know my thoughts on my model and they fail to understand any of it, then you have a point.
However, you can't make a judgement based on a handful of people, especially some that's got no intention of ever looking into it.

did you try to explain your ideas to 7 billion people?
how do you know that not all of them refuse your idea?

I claim that you could not convince one person here that your idea is correct and that gravity does not exist.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: November 03, 2017, 07:55:40 AM »
Separate but equal is totally a thing that has worked in the past.

only the legal part counts.

religion is a decision of each person for himself.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: November 02, 2017, 05:01:11 PM »
At least Trump had the testicular fortitude to be the FIRST PRO GAY MARRIAGE PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!

Obama had to do some soul searching... Hillary waited a few more years before she decided she liked the idea of gays getting married...

I bet you'll find more quotes of Obama and Hillary saying, I Believe marriage is between a man and a woman than you will of trump saying that...

I say marriage is between two person who love each other and want to live with each other.

also what does it do for other people to not allow gay persons to marry each other?
does somebody thing that gay person will marry somebody else in that case?
does somebody believe that a gay man will than marry a woman only because it is not allowed for him to marry a man?

And what if 3 or 4 people love each other and want to live with each other. Why should marriage only be recognised between only 2 of them. Religion allows for more than 1 wife and many cultures allow it. Maybe it is the west that is behind and regressive in this regard.

I would not be not have a problem with that, as long nobody get harmed.

I still do not see an answer from the people that are against gay marriages what would wrong with it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: November 02, 2017, 08:37:35 AM »
At least Trump had the testicular fortitude to be the FIRST PRO GAY MARRIAGE PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!

Obama had to do some soul searching... Hillary waited a few more years before she decided she liked the idea of gays getting married...

I bet you'll find more quotes of Obama and Hillary saying, I Believe marriage is between a man and a woman than you will of trump saying that...

I say marriage is between two person who love each other and want to live with each other.

also what does it do for other people to not allow gay persons to marry each other?
does somebody thing that gay person will marry somebody else in that case?
does somebody believe that a gay man will than marry a woman only because it is not allowed for him to marry a man?
Anti-gay-marriage people are scared that they are/become gay if they see too many gay couples.

but what they are afraid of?

are/become gay

than they have to learn that to be gay is not contagious.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: November 02, 2017, 08:06:22 AM »
At least Trump had the testicular fortitude to be the FIRST PRO GAY MARRIAGE PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!

Obama had to do some soul searching... Hillary waited a few more years before she decided she liked the idea of gays getting married...

I bet you'll find more quotes of Obama and Hillary saying, I Believe marriage is between a man and a woman than you will of trump saying that...

I say marriage is between two person who love each other and want to live with each other.

also what does it do for other people to not allow gay persons to marry each other?
does somebody thing that gay person will marry somebody else in that case?
does somebody believe that a gay man will than marry a woman only because it is not allowed for him to marry a man?
Anti-gay-marriage people are scared that they are/become gay if they see too many gay couples.

but what they are afraid of?


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: November 02, 2017, 07:50:39 AM »
At least Trump had the testicular fortitude to be the FIRST PRO GAY MARRIAGE PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!

Obama had to do some soul searching... Hillary waited a few more years before she decided she liked the idea of gays getting married...

I bet you'll find more quotes of Obama and Hillary saying, I Believe marriage is between a man and a woman than you will of trump saying that...

I say marriage is between two person who love each other and want to live with each other.

also what does it do for other people to not allow gay persons to marry each other?
does somebody thing that gay person will marry somebody else in that case?
does somebody believe that a gay man will than marry a woman only because it is not allowed for him to marry a man?


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Flat Earth General / Re: ok what if true
« on: November 02, 2017, 07:31:13 AM »
anyway i don't avoid anything
here
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=72614.0

you did not say anything to my explanation that we should see more of a flat earth at that high altitude.

you ignoring that part at all.

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Flat Earth General / Re: If the earth is flat...
« on: November 01, 2017, 11:18:25 AM »

What's your problem with clicking a link? It's not like it's to an external site, you can see it's just another forum post. if you can't be bothered to click a link I really don't see why I should bother repeating the explanation.

Tell me, if the earth is flat does Kim Jon Un knows about it or not?

she does not give a certain answer.
she is always that way that she always can claim she was correct with one of her many claims.

but she never give any evidence for her claims.

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Flat Earth General / Re: If the earth is flat...
« on: November 01, 2017, 09:32:29 AM »
your links do not help to show how the different model of the FE could work. I can not see any evidence for the claims that are posted there.
...Because not everything is an answer to a demand for evidence, some things are an explanation of a principle. Have you ever read a discussion you've been a part of?

yes, you always explain different ideas for a flat earth, but there is where you stop.
if we ask for evidence that these ideas could be true and working in our reality you only repeat your claims and the explanations but nothing else.

therefore you (and nobody else) has ever shown a evidence for their claims that they could be real.
Take it back to the thread where you were discussing this rather than spamming the rest of the forum. Maybe there you could actually explain why what I provided doesn't count. I'm not going to discuss this in unrelated thread.

if you post claims in a threat that it is allowed to post answers or questions to that claims.

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Flat Earth General / Re: If the earth is flat...
« on: November 01, 2017, 08:43:52 AM »
your links do not help to show how the different model of the FE could work. I can not see any evidence for the claims that are posted there.
...Because not everything is an answer to a demand for evidence, some things are an explanation of a principle. Have you ever read a discussion you've been a part of?

yes, you always explain different ideas for a flat earth, but there is where you stop.
if we ask for evidence that these ideas could be true and working in our reality you only repeat your claims and the explanations but nothing else.

therefore you (and nobody else) has ever shown a evidence for their claims that they could be real.

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Flat Earth General / Re: If the earth is flat...
« on: November 01, 2017, 08:37:24 AM »
Nope. Going to read the link at any stage? I'd focus on the "This does not require a unified shadowy organization," if I were you.

So, if the earth is flat then how USA and North Korea are not part of it?
What's your problem with clicking a link? It's not like it's to an external site, you can see it's just another forum post. if you can't be bothered to click a link I really don't see why I should bother repeating the explanation.

your links do not help to show how the different model of the FE could work. I can not see any evidence for the claims that are posted there.

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Flat Earth General / Re: New Here And I'm Not Totally Convinced.
« on: November 01, 2017, 08:34:07 AM »
No one actually believes the earth is flat here.

If you were unsure.
Wrong NASA fanboy. There are plenty of flat earth believers here.

I am sure the some have multiple logins.

but not one of the FEIB is able to show any evidence or prove for their believes.

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I can post anywhere.

Anyway, you don't have to imagine what is posted in that section of the forum, you can read it yourself. You all know that not much goes on there.

That's because you are a FEIB.
Yet another FE victory!!

Why is it a victory?
It more an insult for her, that she can not see the reality.

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