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I'm just not ruling out the possibility. This site is embedded deeply with government shills that are trying to destroy all our commonplace ideology.
Hey there! This is actually my first post here as I'm a new member. Previous (and constant) lies fed out by the media and false flag operations orchestrated in the past over the years are what opened me up to the fact that the the earth is flat, and I'd just like to ask a simple question based on something you mentioned. The term "Shill" is thrown around a lot, and I'd appreciate it if you or someone could give me a better understanding or explanation of how literal it is. I see people use it in a very joking matter, and also on a very serious matter such as how the population has been deceived over the years on a subject such as flat earth. So basically, what I'm asking is are these shills actually government employees paid to be shills? Or is that term used loosely and could be referring to close minded trolls, or people poking fun for example? Thanks!
Nobody gets paid, it's just people joking. For instance, I have been repeatedly accused of being paid to post here by the 15yo scientist with his CCL. Several months ago I stated I was paid by the IllumiNASA. Clearly not even a real organization. But when a certain knuckleheaded scientist goes sifting through your posts to try and drag dirt up on you, and that's all he can find, well, I guess he runs with it (he's obviously not too smart).
Who would pay someone to post here anyway?
Now. YouTube videos. Where you've more than likely received all of your FE misinformation. Do the creators of those videos get paid? That's something you might think on.
Welcome aboard my friend.

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But every pic or video posted by FErs isn't CGI right?
That's a pretty weak argument. You can do better than that!

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Flat Earth General / Re: Dinosaurs Are A Hoax
« on: April 08, 2017, 04:16:42 PM »
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Matthew 7:1-3

I dont sin, therefore I CAN judge sinners.

Yoy need to read the bible, onebigmonkey, otherwise youll take things out of context and interpret them incorrectly.
You don't sin?  That seems like a bold statement.  You also said you could prove god exists.  I would very much like to see that proof.
1 John 1:8 - If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

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Planes can't go into high orbit so why is there a problem with X and Y horizontal and vertical simple to see indicators. If these instruments had a curvature to them wouldn't it pose a threat for being precise in aircraft combat or last second maneuverability? I don't understand the point trying to be made here to be honest. I'm a firm believer in a flat earth but this would have zero impact on proving it. Also youtube and this comment section has basic spellcheck and there are also add ons for several web browsers for spellcheck. How could you misspell "altitude" in the header for your post as well as posting all those videos with the incorrect grammar for each as well as not spelling it correctly a second time. I know this is a nitpick and you probably made a typo due to each of the videos having similar spelling. But still "altitude" isn't a very hard word to spell.
Attitude is the aircrafts nose up or nose down position horizontally. Altitude is its actual height.
Before you go correcting others, you should KNOW what you're correcting. Altitude and attitude are very different.
https://www.google.com/search?q=aircraft+attitude&oq=aircraft+attitude&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3j69i61l2.4051j0j4&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Moon Craters, No Problem!
« on: April 08, 2017, 03:49:23 PM »
So Scepti believes the moon isn't what we know the moon to be. He says it's a so called reflection off the so called dome from the so called center earth carbon arc sun. OK, when viewed through a telescope, or even bino's, all mankind can make out the craters in great detail. Waxing or waning is the best time to see it due to the sunlight reflected and the shadows created making the details stand out.
So anyway, if the moon is simply a so called reflection off of the so called dome, one would come to the conclusion that the entire so called dome must be full of pock marks and craters, since the so called reflection moves across the sky, illuminating the so called dome.
Therefore, Scepti must concede that these actual craters DO exist, either as craters and pock marks on the so called dome, or more commonly referred to as the moon. They are clearly visible to anyone, I don't believe this is even arguable.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Dinosaurs Are A Hoax
« on: April 08, 2017, 02:02:35 PM »
Where did dinosaurs fossils come from?

Lol

Where DID the "dinosaur" bones come from?

That is a great question.
They generally come from the ground in my experience.

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How do we know that this photo isn't CG?
Everything is CGI unless a flat earther posts it huh?

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But there is a big difference between us.

I agree with that. You are a liar, and I am not.
You just explain your lies, correct?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« on: April 08, 2017, 12:19:11 PM »
Youre a lying liar, and youll lie about that all day long! I could show you proof after proof that you lie, and youde shrug them off, bury it in a mountain of shitposts from your shill army and say truth is relevant or some other mind warping lie.
Show me where - you failed last time you tried. I believe that the material I post is correct!

Im sure you believe alot of things to be correct that are incorrect.

Rabinoz is a motherfudger.

He's just angry because he was called out for lying. 15yo scientist with his CCL (which he still hasn't owned up to)..

Thats not true. I explained that situation. Why are all the globalists here dirty rotten liars??
You explained how you lied? Really!? Now you're just lying again.

I explained how I was not lying. Read what I post.
Right. Clear as mud.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Shhhh, the earth is flat
« on: April 07, 2017, 08:27:59 PM »
Intikam, while I disagree with you, I am sincerely impressed that  you are participating in this forum even though English is not your first language.
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Don't worry, it's only a matter of time before you prove him wrong, and then he ignores you. Or he'll think you're an alt of someone, and then ignore you. He doesn't debate. If you disagree with him and he doesn't like it, you'll become a "dishonored one, son of whore" or "one of ISIS cutting to head".
You'll see.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: MOON Craters aint adding up!?
« on: April 07, 2017, 08:21:07 PM »
Have you been to the meteor crater in Arizona? I have, and it's breathtakingly awesome. Almost a mile wide.
Now you say maybe a bomb created this. What kind of explosive technology was available in 1891? Nitroglycerin maybe?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_Crater#Discovery_and_investigation

This crater was there eons before nuclear devices were ever even thought of, and that's the only bomb that could replicate this crater, but nowhere near as large.
I'm not even sure a thermonuclear device could make a dent that big
Facts: it wasn't a bomb, nor was it from falling icicles (before that nonsense even gets brought up...).

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Flat Earth General / Re: Where are 'Space Ships' really headed?
« on: April 07, 2017, 06:45:36 PM »
It's also VERY possible for you to see these satellites for yourself. Have you made use of the tools I gave you? Here's a link in case you missed it http://www.issdetector.com
This will show you exactly when and where to look in the sky, days ahead. So you can plan if need be.

And here's some good information to get you started. http://www.space.com/32387-satellite-space-station-skywatching-mobile-apps.html

Since you're kinda on the fence about the issue, it'd be good to hear what you observe. It's really pretty simple, not much to it. Clear skies and the darker the better (meaning leave the city if you live in a large one, light pollution will dampen your ability to see good).

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Precisely equal numbers of people have visited both environments, and for the same, very good, reason.

Can you guess? (It's not the cold!)

Please show the "precisely equal numbers" that you claim to know so much about.

I have shown you the figures for the number of people visiting Antarctica in one year in this post that impressed you so much:

Precisely equal numbers of people have visited both environments, and for the same, very good, reason.

Can you guess? (It's not the cold!)
You could have checked on it yourself at:
and found
for 2015-2016 year alone.


And you still cannot justify the absolute crap that you write. SITUATION NORMAL!

There maybe you can read that!
I believe his answer was zero meaning both places are fiction. It was a thread meant to troll from the beginning, nothing more.

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Ouch. Your video proves curvature of the earth.


I will make no comment to anyone, the visual evidence speaks for itself!

I wonder why...

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If you can show me one single example of an object going from full speed to zero speed (let alone reversing) instantaneously, i.e. without slowing down first, and without any force acting on it*, I will officially declare myself the world's first denpressure acolyte.



*  that is, not hitting anything, no parachutes, no retro-rockets...just object is going fast one moment, and completely stopped the next moment, with no slowing down between.
I doubt you'll believe me, so you're just going to have to figure it out or consider yourself believing I'm wrong.
I know I'm right but that's no proof to you.
So nothing to show? Nothing to backup your claim? Your evidence of this happening would be far more educational than you simply saying it.
I'm gonna guess you won't show anything because you don't have anything.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Shhhh, the earth is flat
« on: April 07, 2017, 10:38:36 AM »
Your favorite youtuber makes a video that you then claim he was careless?? What?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Questions about the Big Bang
« on: April 07, 2017, 10:28:10 AM »
Hanibaal, God said "Let there be light". If that meant a super heated beginning, otherwise known as the Big Bang, wouldn't it be pretty bright? The truth is no one can really know the beginning but the One who began it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Dinosaurs Are A Hoax
« on: April 07, 2017, 08:16:18 AM »
Where did dinosaurs fossils come from?

*oh the government put ceramic bones underground*
No government put the bones in the ground that I have found..

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Flat Earth General / Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« on: April 06, 2017, 06:08:59 PM »
What the actual bleeding fuck is this thread?!
Pretty much speaks for itself. And the poster.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Where are 'Space Ships' really headed?
« on: April 06, 2017, 06:07:38 PM »
Eventually I'm just going to buy another telescope (I left my old one behind in Ottawa) and/or camera and look for the ISS myself.
If I actually saw the ISS, it'd do a lot to dispel my skepticism.
I mean sure, you can always doubt, even if you saw it, you could say it's a holographic projection, or whatever, but it'd mostly be good enough for me.

I'm not saying it's not up there, I'm not saying it is.
If I had to bet, I'd bet, well, it depends on how much we're talking about, I'd bet a few hundred dollars it's up there, but I wouldn't bet my life savings, I certainly wouldn't bet my life.

That's the thing about fact/fiction, it's rarely black/white, 0/1, and no matter how 'objective' we try to be, our experiences, our paradigm/personality/psychology, and our guts goes into how we assess things, various subconscious mental processes.
In fact, it's necessary they do, we can't, nor should we rely solely on linear thinking.
Just because you doubt some things about government or mainstream science, doesn't mean you have to doubt all things, likewise, just because you accept some things doesn't mean you have to accept all.
You don't have to give a firm yes or no, you can say maybe... probably, or unlikely.
Cults think in terms of all/nothing, you're absolutely for/against.

For now, I still find it somewhat suspicious the space shuttle doesn't ascend very high, probably not much higher, if at all, than jumbo jets, and already it's traveling more horizontally than vertically, I'm going to look for more youtube clips to corroborate this.
I mean look at this video, it's hard to tell, but it looks as thou it's traveling almost completely horizontally -

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I'm going to try to find as many videos of launches as I can and attempt to ascertain what's really going on here.
You don't need anything to spot the ISS, unless you want detail. It's often as bright as Venus, and what you're seeing is the sunlight reflected off the solar panels. You'll also notice the sun is well below the horizon, indicating it's behind the curvature of the earth. When it passes over you and you no longer see it, it has moved into the shadow cast by the earth.
Make use of an issue tracking app. They're amazingly accurate I assure you.

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Flat Earth General / Re: If Flat earth is real.... Sasquatch?
« on: April 06, 2017, 05:43:12 PM »
Reported for complete nonsense.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat
« on: April 06, 2017, 05:40:35 PM »
Lemme ask you this badxtoss.

If you launched a balloon without recording a curve, like I advised in my last post that you ignored, would you be asking those questions still?

Would you not be asking...

Where the fuck is the curve of Earth?

Or would you shrug it off and say,

huh must not have gotten high enough, because the government would never lie to me...
Probably because he doesn't need said proof like you do?

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Hanibaal is offering half price trips to Antarctica, maybe he should get on that!

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But ARHB acts like a grumpy old man of about 65, yet claims he is only 15 and he's such and obnoxious so-and-so.

But, I have changed my mind. You don't even have the maturity of some of my grandsons around aged around 15.
You lack the maturity to even investigate what you don't understand. What is your real age? Under or over 10?

Look at this fool!

He doesnt know whether hes coming or going!

Am I 10 or 100!? He says I act like both!

All that matters is that he defaces my name.

All that he cares about is persuading people to ignore anyone who voices their opinion about the truth of flat Earth.
And you don't do the same? Ha!

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Flat Earth General / Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« on: April 06, 2017, 05:20:18 PM »
Youre a lying liar, and youll lie about that all day long! I could show you proof after proof that you lie, and youde shrug them off, bury it in a mountain of shitposts from your shill army and say truth is relevant or some other mind warping lie.
Show me where - you failed last time you tried. I believe that the material I post is correct!

Im sure you believe alot of things to be correct that are incorrect.

Rabinoz is a motherfudger.

He's just angry because he was called out for lying. 15yo scientist with his CCL (which he still hasn't owned up to)..

Thats not true. I explained that situation. Why are all the globalists here dirty rotten liars??
You explained how you lied? Really!? Now you're just lying again.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Where are 'Space Ships' really headed?
« on: April 05, 2017, 06:41:35 PM »
If you're saying objects are dozens of times more visible in front of the moon than not, does that mean earthbound objects too, are dozens of times more visible?
If the moon's contrast makes objects dozens of times more visible than they'd otherwise be, does the sun's contrast make them millions of times more visible than they'd otherwise be, since the sun is hundreds of thousands of times brighter than the moon?
If so, then I could see a fly from miles away if it were to get in between my eyes and the sun.
Do you have an Android device? If so, install the appl ISS Detector. It will let you know when the ISS will be passing over you when you'll be able to see it. I've seen it 30 or 40 times, along with countless other satellites. It's a very good tool, I'd recommend you try it and see. It's free.
Of course there are equivalent iPhone tracking apps too.  ;)
There certainly is. The one I mentioned I'm not sure if there's an apple version, but if not there should be. The UI is very easy and just a well thought out app. Most of them source from Heaven's Above. I like the fact they track iridium flares..

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Flat Earth General / Re: Why did NASA let Nazis run their program?
« on: April 05, 2017, 06:25:02 PM »
Go fuck yourself Rabinoz.

Does that suit your needs for an apology?

Rabinoz is a lying shill.

Nazis started and as far as I know currently run NASA.

And all you that you can say is

"What a stupid 15 year old kid. You act like a three year old"

Or sometimes youll say

"What an obvious alternate account, you must be an old man"

NEVER ANYTHING RELEVANT

And most importantly

NO PROOF THAT IM WRONG
Exactly what a Nazi would say..

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Flat Earth General / Re: Looking at the sun is good for you.
« on: April 05, 2017, 06:16:14 PM »
He's just angry because he was called out for lying. 15yo scientist with his CCL (which he still hasn't owned up to)..

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Flat Earth General / Re: Where are 'Space Ships' really headed?
« on: April 05, 2017, 03:07:03 PM »
If you're saying objects are dozens of times more visible in front of the moon than not, does that mean earthbound objects too, are dozens of times more visible?
If the moon's contrast makes objects dozens of times more visible than they'd otherwise be, does the sun's contrast make them millions of times more visible than they'd otherwise be, since the sun is hundreds of thousands of times brighter than the moon?
If so, then I could see a fly from miles away if it were to get in between my eyes and the sun.
Do you have an Android device? If so, install the appl ISS Detector. It will let you know when the ISS will be passing over you when you'll be able to see it. I've seen it 30 or 40 times, along with countless other satellites. It's a very good tool, I'd recommend you try it and see. It's free.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Dinosaurs Are A Hoax
« on: April 05, 2017, 11:30:01 AM »
Pictures are only fake when you don't post them, right?

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