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Flat Earth General / Re: GPS | Navigation
« on: June 20, 2016, 09:00:28 PM »
cell phones use cell phone towers to get their location
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Flat Earth General / Re: Airline WiFi - SAT Radio
« on: June 19, 2016, 10:22:13 AM »
The map of coverage for the satellite internet company is weird because it is advertised as a service for boats but it seems very limited. It covers all the land in the world no problem but has a problem with ocean coverage....
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Flat Earth General / Re: Airline WiFi - SAT Radio
« on: June 18, 2016, 05:27:55 PM »
In world war two Loran covered the entire northern Atlantic so that's nothing new,
It's really weird how a satellite internet service specifically can't cover the southern hemisphere very well.
It's really weird how a satellite internet service specifically can't cover the southern hemisphere very well.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Airline WiFi - SAT Radio
« on: June 18, 2016, 03:38:26 PM »
In 1983 the microwave link was used for one tv channel, but computer processors are thousands of times faster now so many tricks can be used to increase the bandwidth,
real time compression can be used,this would have been impossible in the eighties
The faster processor also allow the microwave to be changed more times per second.
The low powered Raytheon units can do 20megaBYTES per second, so high powered towers must be able to do more.
The satellite internet must only work when the boat is perfectly still? If I Bob's up and down it would probably lose its signal right?
The coverage area for this boat internet seems to hug the coastlines of several countries and actually mimics the flat earth map!
Ie hardly any coverage in the southern hemisphere,except next to land!
http://www.satphonestore.com/application-browsing/marine/marine-internet/kvh-01-0335-11-tracphone-v3-ip.html
Please provide the product page for the satellite dish picture you posted!
real time compression can be used,this would have been impossible in the eighties
The faster processor also allow the microwave to be changed more times per second.
The low powered Raytheon units can do 20megaBYTES per second, so high powered towers must be able to do more.
The satellite internet must only work when the boat is perfectly still? If I Bob's up and down it would probably lose its signal right?
The coverage area for this boat internet seems to hug the coastlines of several countries and actually mimics the flat earth map!
Ie hardly any coverage in the southern hemisphere,except next to land!
http://www.satphonestore.com/application-browsing/marine/marine-internet/kvh-01-0335-11-tracphone-v3-ip.html
Please provide the product page for the satellite dish picture you posted!
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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: 3D graphics
« on: June 18, 2016, 11:41:54 AM »
Yw
I've never used msb but it is probably close enough
I've never used msb but it is probably close enough
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Flat Earth General / Re: Airline WiFi - SAT Radio
« on: June 18, 2016, 11:28:10 AM »
I got 'derailed' into focusing on satellite TV when this thread is about internet.
TV and Internet are different beasts altogether, TV is pretty high bandwidth that only goes in one direction, so high powered troposcatter towers are needed ,with troposcatter the more power you use the further you can broadcast and the higher the bandwidth.
Satellite internet is pretty low bandwidth and incredibly expensive. Looking at the antenna used for MARITIME satellite internet it seems they don need dishes,but can be used with an antenna that doesn't require an exact angle like Sat TV. Not 100% sure though still looking into it.
Maritime satellite internet could be provided by super pressure balloons, they can hold 8000lbs of equipment, you can't use dishes with them because they don't stay still
http://www.globalmarinenet.com/satellite-internet-at-sea-hardware-airtime-and-pricing/
None of these boat antenna seem to be dishes
TV and Internet are different beasts altogether, TV is pretty high bandwidth that only goes in one direction, so high powered troposcatter towers are needed ,with troposcatter the more power you use the further you can broadcast and the higher the bandwidth.
Satellite internet is pretty low bandwidth and incredibly expensive. Looking at the antenna used for MARITIME satellite internet it seems they don need dishes,but can be used with an antenna that doesn't require an exact angle like Sat TV. Not 100% sure though still looking into it.
Maritime satellite internet could be provided by super pressure balloons, they can hold 8000lbs of equipment, you can't use dishes with them because they don't stay still
http://www.globalmarinenet.com/satellite-internet-at-sea-hardware-airtime-and-pricing/
None of these boat antenna seem to be dishes
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Flat Earth General / Re: Airline WiFi - SAT Radio
« on: June 18, 2016, 07:00:18 AM »
You can't get satellite TV in the middle of the ocean!!
If you actually look at the satellite footprints they are only on land or close to a coastline!
https://sat.ses.com/webservice/images/7407289
No more than 500 miles away from any coast
E.g.
If you actually look at the satellite footprints they are only on land or close to a coastline!
https://sat.ses.com/webservice/images/7407289
No more than 500 miles away from any coast
E.g.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Airline WiFi - SAT Radio
« on: June 18, 2016, 06:35:14 AM »
That's because it's a mobile unit,ie low power
The microwave link from UK to Germany was about 500 miles! But you conveniently ignore that!
Also in 1983 computers were thousands of times slower than they are today, this allows us to do all kinds of trickery to get higher bandwidth, one being compression.
When you download a file and unzip it you are decompressing it, decompressing a TV signal in real time would have been unthinkable in the 80's but now it would be easy.
The microwave link from UK to Germany was about 500 miles! But you conveniently ignore that!
Also in 1983 computers were thousands of times slower than they are today, this allows us to do all kinds of trickery to get higher bandwidth, one being compression.
When you download a file and unzip it you are decompressing it, decompressing a TV signal in real time would have been unthinkable in the 80's but now it would be easy.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: real trip to the moon
« on: June 18, 2016, 06:33:07 AM »
That's pretty bad,
The average person would have to get someone else to do it because you would have to point your laser at something that you can't see.....
The average person would have to get someone else to do it because you would have to point your laser at something that you can't see.....
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Flat Earth General / Re: Airline WiFi - SAT Radio
« on: June 18, 2016, 06:21:16 AM »
It says 'microwave link' in your text that's troposcatter, so yes it can be used for anything satellites claim to do.
Raytheon have a mobile troposcatter unit that can set up data transfer rates that are very fast using troposcatter. An actual building with a troposcatter broadcaster would be capable of more, the more power you use the better it is.
The Raytheon unit broadcasts in the ku band and is capable of high bandwidth so rayzor doesn't know what he is talking about
http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/troposcatter/
Raytheon have a mobile troposcatter unit that can set up data transfer rates that are very fast using troposcatter. An actual building with a troposcatter broadcaster would be capable of more, the more power you use the better it is.
The Raytheon unit broadcasts in the ku band and is capable of high bandwidth so rayzor doesn't know what he is talking about
http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/troposcatter/
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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: 3D graphics
« on: June 17, 2016, 10:41:30 PM »
You can just use the included language called blitzbasic then
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: real trip to the moon
« on: June 17, 2016, 10:39:21 PM »
You can bounce radio signals off the moon......so anyone receiving a signal from the moon doesn't really know it's origin,it could have bounced off.
Laser get reflected by the moon itself...no reflectors needed...and how the fuck is someone on earth going to be able to locate reflectors on something about 1/3 the size of the earth? How far can the average person's telescope zoom in to the moon anyway?
Laser get reflected by the moon itself...no reflectors needed...and how the fuck is someone on earth going to be able to locate reflectors on something about 1/3 the size of the earth? How far can the average person's telescope zoom in to the moon anyway?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Airline WiFi - SAT Radio
« on: June 17, 2016, 10:30:43 PM »
Satellites and bouncing signals are both ku band...television was bounced off the troposphere from London to Germany in 1978 ,sixteen years later satellite TV is made available to Americans.
Satellites and bouncing signals are so similar, same frequencies same dishes to receive signals that there really is no difference... Except satellites are hundreds of millions of dollars more expensive, bouncing signals just need more towers to cover the same area.
Satellites and bouncing signals are so similar, same frequencies same dishes to receive signals that there really is no difference... Except satellites are hundreds of millions of dollars more expensive, bouncing signals just need more towers to cover the same area.
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: So I watched the SpaceX launch....
« on: June 16, 2016, 08:56:58 PM »
Only a small number need to know anything, you can order a rocket engine without anyone needed to know how it will be used,same goes for all!the other parts, even the engineers designing parts just need to know how to make it not break.
The people in the control room who high five,whoop and holler have to be in on it, the head engineer,the guy who invented heat shielding,the astronauts,the techs working on the buoyancy lab ie swimming pool....when it's being used for spacewalks. The people who make videos of ships approaching the ISS, which don't seem to give a wide view of said station.
The lower engineers probably have questions which are dismissed or try are too afraid of social or financial consequences for asking questions
The people in the control room who high five,whoop and holler have to be in on it, the head engineer,the guy who invented heat shielding,the astronauts,the techs working on the buoyancy lab ie swimming pool....when it's being used for spacewalks. The people who make videos of ships approaching the ISS, which don't seem to give a wide view of said station.
The lower engineers probably have questions which are dismissed or try are too afraid of social or financial consequences for asking questions
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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: 3D graphics
« on: June 16, 2016, 07:05:03 PM »
Use an engine!
You're reinventing the wheel.
Blitz3d is the best,it even comes with its own basic language, although it's only good for simple demos.
If you learn c++ it will be able to do anything.
You're reinventing the wheel.
Blitz3d is the best,it even comes with its own basic language, although it's only good for simple demos.
If you learn c++ it will be able to do anything.
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Flat Earth General / Re: The sickest video of returning from space ever
« on: June 16, 2016, 06:06:41 PM »
Took a while to render them didn't they?
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Trophospheric scatter imitating geo-synch satellites?
« on: June 14, 2016, 08:45:58 PM »
Just a bit of humor
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Why if the Earth is flat does the sun set 2 minutes later at the top of the Burj
« on: June 14, 2016, 08:38:20 PM »
You mean going higher let's you see the sun longer?
When you are on the ground the line of sight to the sun is a diagonal line, the higher you get the straighter the line of sight to the sun is.
In other words:
Being higher gets you closer to the sun if its a near object.
When you are on the ground the line of sight to the sun is a diagonal line, the higher you get the straighter the line of sight to the sun is.
In other words:
Being higher gets you closer to the sun if its a near object.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Trophospheric scatter imitating geo-synch satellites?
« on: June 14, 2016, 02:00:29 PM »
The main website to get satellite information is lyngsat.com ie lying Sat!
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Trophospheric scatter imitating geo-synch satellites?
« on: June 13, 2016, 08:50:03 PM »
Points one and two seem to be the same,and three doesn't make any sense
Whenever a shill makes an argument it is usually false
They said troposcatter doesn't work in the ku band.....but it does
They said it couldn't transmit tv.....but it did
So I would like someday to actually check out the angles
Whenever a shill makes an argument it is usually false
They said troposcatter doesn't work in the ku band.....but it does
They said it couldn't transmit tv.....but it did
So I would like someday to actually check out the angles
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Trophospheric scatter imitating geo-synch satellites?
« on: June 13, 2016, 07:21:58 PM »
Dishes are directional because of the same reason as micophones, to pick up faint signals.
Dishes are angled at the sky sometimes because skywaves come from there when bounced off the troposphere
Dishes are angled at the sky sometimes because skywaves come from there when bounced off the troposphere
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Flat earth shattered
« on: June 13, 2016, 01:33:54 PM »
OK so there's absolutely no way of proving they really are at the South Pole then.
One way would be flying from Australia to South America but this excursion doesn't do that.
One way would be flying from Australia to South America but this excursion doesn't do that.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Trophospheric scatter imitating geo-synch satellites?
« on: June 13, 2016, 01:26:20 PM »
Satellite dishes are directional,
If you have a directional microphone it only picks up sound from one direction.
The antennae in cell phones are like regular mics that pick up sound in any direction
If you have a directional microphone it only picks up sound from one direction.
The antennae in cell phones are like regular mics that pick up sound in any direction
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: NASA uses balloons
« on: June 12, 2016, 03:11:00 PM »
Nice news......STORY
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Flat earth shattered
« on: June 12, 2016, 03:04:25 PM »
OK they fly a bunch of people out to a base and then home again...saying they are at the pole
Does:the compass start spinning?
Or
Does the compass point in the opposite direction after a short journey?
No mention of either.
Does:the compass start spinning?
Or
Does the compass point in the opposite direction after a short journey?
No mention of either.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Trophospheric scatter imitating geo-synch satellites?
« on: June 12, 2016, 11:57:08 AM »
Lol that would work,
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: NASA uses balloons
« on: June 11, 2016, 05:35:05 PM »
Very little,you're basically being a skeptic of Google ATM,I'm not saying the balloons are capable of anything beyond what Google says,except they can be used for GPS, so all this discussion of wind is meaningless, Google says balloons can be made to stay in certain areas.
Ground stations can locate the balloons with radar and tell them where they are.
Ground stations can locate the balloons with radar and tell them where they are.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Trophospheric scatter imitating geo-synch satellites?
« on: June 11, 2016, 01:00:10 PM »
So what angle are troposcatter dishes usually at?
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Trophospheric scatter imitating geo-synch satellites?
« on: June 11, 2016, 12:32:46 PM »
You're bitching about a few degrees ,prove what angle troposcatter dishes are usually aimed at. Prove it.
And inquisitive prove that interference is a problem
And inquisitive prove that interference is a problem
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Trophospheric scatter imitating geo-synch satellites?
« on: June 11, 2016, 12:16:59 PM »
There is a satellite dish in my neighborhood aimed pretty shallow
Also many on Google
http://tv-from-home.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Satellite-dish-antennaon-wall.jpg
images
Also many on Google
http://tv-from-home.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Satellite-dish-antennaon-wall.jpg
images