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Flat Earth Debate / Re: One of Toms posts, and the 100 proofs thing

« on: November 28, 2008, 06:34:23 AM »

... you can't just claim something and "assume true" without any further evidence...

Indeed. FET fails miserably on that account.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Space Shuttle Launch 11/14/08

« on: November 20, 2008, 06:00:37 AM »

I believe Tom is implying that all scenes "filmed in space" could just as well be created completely by CGI.

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The Lounge / Re: Goodbye, for now.

« on: November 11, 2008, 01:46:26 PM »

...going to live with a friend.

Somehow my mind placed quotation marks around that part...

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The Lounge / Re: Where have you been, GD??

« on: November 10, 2008, 06:14:26 AM »

Your kid is not ugly, yet.

Fixed.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: wind

« on: November 10, 2008, 03:46:18 AM »

Wind is part of the conspiracy. Those so-called wind power generators in the countryside are in fact large fans that create the wind. By spreading the ridiculous notion that a spinning propeller could create energy, the conspiracy has found a clever way to hide their "wind generators" in plain sight. Haven't you noticed how they always seem to be pointing in the direction the wind is blowing? That is because they are causing the wind! It's so obvious, but people refuse to see it because they blindly accept what they are told by the evil government.


PS: For those who don't get it - </sarcasm>.

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The Lounge / Re: MTV Music Awards get Rickrolled!

« on: November 07, 2008, 03:24:04 AM »

I wonder if Rick is even aware that he's basically the subject of a huge internet joke.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: I can't prove the Earth is round or flat: the debate so far

« on: November 07, 2008, 12:43:30 AM »

It is observed consistently, even through telescopes

Proof?

There are numerous images on the internet. Some people have even done their own experiments and posted images on this forum. In one thread you yourself even declared the sinking ship effect that was clearly visible through a telescope as "proof" of bendy light. Why do you feign ignorance? You yourself have acknowledged the existence of the effect through a telescope.

EDIT: While we're on the subject, how about some "proof" that ships sinking over the horizon can be fully restored through a telescope?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: I can't prove the Earth is round or flat: the debate so far

« on: November 06, 2008, 11:57:54 PM »

The only evidence we need to conclude that the Earth is round is the sinking ship effect. It is observed consistently, even through telescopes - therefore it is not an illusion of perspective. If you try to explain it with bendy light, you are invalidating the "observational evidence" for flat Earth because you are admitting that the Earth is observably round.

Let me put it this way: </FET>

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The Lounge / Re: What will wipe out America?

« on: November 05, 2008, 12:24:32 PM »

Aliens, obviously. We all know they're coming to destroy us. It's only a matter of time.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: I can't prove the Earth is round or flat: the debate so far

« on: November 05, 2008, 03:52:04 AM »

Even through a powerful telescope, ships can clearly be seen to "sink" below the horizon.

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The Lounge / Re: Cell Phones

« on: November 05, 2008, 12:02:01 AM »

Sony Ericsson K800i. Also some cheap old Nokia for work.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Question

« on: October 30, 2008, 02:37:09 AM »

Uh oh. Tom is going into copy & paste mode again. (^[1], ^[2], ^[3], ^[4], ^[5], ^[6], ^[7])

As has been discussed before, the "vanishing point due to human limitation" is total bollocks, because when looking through binoculars or a telescope, ships can still be seen to sink below the horizon.

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The Lounge / Re: M-M-M-MONSTER FAIL!

« on: October 30, 2008, 12:29:10 AM »

REers on the Sun:

It's is a Yellow dwarf.

Erm, the sun is actually a main sequence yellow dwarf star.

</smart-arse>

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Barack Obama, Fake Christian

« on: October 29, 2008, 10:47:57 AM »

I had to stop watching mid way through the first video... it was just too painful. Seriously, who cares if Obama is a "true christian"?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Mercury and Venus

« on: October 29, 2008, 05:51:44 AM »

The interaction of the Sun and Moon's magnetic fields at close range causes them to repel one another.

I didn't realize that the moon had a magnetic field.  Do you have any verifiable evidence to support that claim? 

It seems that magnetic repulsion should affect the sun's and/or moon's orbit as well.  Any thoughts as to why this is not observed?

Because it's complete cow dung?

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The Lounge / Re: Flat Earth - The History of an Infamous Idea

« on: October 29, 2008, 02:53:56 AM »

I just read a short synopsis/review of the book. Sounds like a fun read.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy

« on: October 29, 2008, 01:22:02 AM »

So if bendy light is merely a derivative theory, what observational basis does that theory have? Obviously it can't be "the Earth looks flat", because bendy light negates that observation. It would appear that your new derivative theory is entirely beyond human experience. I guess the new basis for Bendy Light FET is "We'd like to believe that the Earth is flat."

Before you continue to use my own logic to disprove FET, let's change the subject shall we?

Fixed that for you.

Sorry, but I don't give much of a shit about SR, GR or anything else at the moment. The topic at hand is FET, since we are in the FET forums after all. I've provided a logical argument as to why bendy light is incompatible with FET. You seem unable or unwilling to refute it.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy

« on: October 29, 2008, 01:15:55 AM »

On the topic of the electromagnetic accelerator, it's all well and good as a possible explanation for bendy light... but that doesn't change the fact that bendy light itself is inconsistent with the very foundations of FET.

I'll try to put it as simply as possible:

- It is possible to observe the roundness of Earth. (sinking ship effect)
- FET explains observations of roundness with bendy light.
- Bendy light also nullifies observations of flatness.
- FET is based on the observation of a flat Earth.
- Therefore bendy light invalidates FET.

I believe we can consider FET to have been successfully disproved by its own advocates. Bravo!

No, bendy light is a derivative of the original FET. We do not yet know which is correct. I saw the need for a modification to FET, and came up with the bendy light hypothesis. It may be wrong, but you can't say that the scientists who came up with the idea of the luminiferous aether disproved the existence of light.

So if bendy light is merely a derivative theory, what observational basis does that theory have? Obviously it can't be "the Earth looks flat", because bendy light negates that observation. It would appear that your new derivative theory is entirely beyond human experience. I guess the new basis for Bendy Light FET is "We'd like to believe that the Earth is flat."

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy

« on: October 29, 2008, 12:49:57 AM »

On the topic of the electromagnetic accelerator, it's all well and good as a possible explanation for bendy light... but that doesn't change the fact that bendy light itself is inconsistent with the very foundations of FET.

I'll try to put it as simply as possible:

- It is possible to observe the roundness of Earth. (sinking ship effect)
- FET explains observations of roundness with bendy light.
- Bendy light also nullifies observations of flatness.
- FET is based on the observation of a flat Earth.
- Therefore bendy light invalidates FET.

I believe we can consider FET to have been successfully disproved by its own advocates. Bravo!

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cape Kennedy

« on: October 28, 2008, 02:30:31 PM »

Considering that a shuttle is visible right up to (and possibly beyond) LEO, there's no doubt that it goes up and stays up there. You could probably send it down during the the middle of the day or night, but you'll have the get it back up at most about 40 minutes after you took it down lest various shuttle spotters notice it's missing. There may be various times when you'll have to keep it up anyway as it may be visible during the day or night.

NASA projects holograms into the atmoplane. They don't need to be very high resolution; they just need to be sufficient to keep people from wondering where the shuttle went.

Wow, that ranks right up there with the mysterious but conveniently placed sky mirrors, gleefully helpful boat-pushing fish, oh and let's not forget the magical-omnidirectional-supersonic wind currents. FET is a fucking merry-go-round of lulz.

</sarcasm>

Seriously, if NASA is projecting holograms into the sky, they would need a huge worldwide network of "holographic projectors" to cover all visible satellites, shuttles, the ISS etc. simultaneously. Before you ask: no, I'm pretty sure there are no sky-hologram projectors in my neighborhood.

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The Lounge / Re: Moral Compass

« on: October 28, 2008, 04:32:17 AM »

Here are the answers I provided:

- Religion should not exist.
- All ethnic groups are equal.
- All cultures are equal.
- We are all citizens of the world.
- No one should have a say about our lifestyles.
- Men and women are different, but equal.
- Nature is an asset we must manage carefully.
- Success is making a living doing what you love.
- We should reward businesses that serve Society.
- Quality of life is more important than work.
- Everyone should have the opportunity to receive a great education.
- Everyone should receive the same quality health care.
- Financial security should first be an individual responsibility.
- Charity is more an individual responsibility than a collective responsibility.
- Security is a primary a collective responsibility.
- We should reduce the causes of crime.

And here is my result:

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The Lounge / Re: Japanese Internet vs. North American Internet

« on: October 23, 2008, 01:53:18 AM »

*shows lack of knowledge*

What are pings anyway?

Your ping is generally the time it takes for a packet (or message) from your computer to reach a server (or another computer) and get back again. Low ping = faster = better.

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The Lounge / Re: Which Country is the Worst on Earth?

« on: October 22, 2008, 06:32:46 AM »

France

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Creation VS a Non Exsitent word

« on: October 22, 2008, 05:04:59 AM »

*votes for font size limit*

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Proof of Conspiracy

« on: October 22, 2008, 01:52:10 AM »

Bendy light. You assume that earth is flat and therefore come up with BL as a solution. OK, that is a theory, but in science you need to be able to test and retest to validate a theory. Right now you appear to be saying here is a theory of bendy light which proves flat earth can work. We can prove the theory because the Earth is flat! Running round in circles there mate.

Circular logic, quite ironically.

What is also ironic is the way you mention the dark ages and the way they believed in witches. You know what else they believed in the dark ages? That the world was flat.

What would be hilarious is to take one of these morons on a trip on a space shuttle and watch them furrow their brows as they finally realise that the world is round. Actually, all you'd need to do is put them on a sailing ship and travel in a straight line long enough before they'd get to the same place. And no-one has made mention of being in a plane and _seeing_ the curvature of the earth with their own eyes. Or are planes part of the NASA god conspiracy as well.

Jesus christ, I can't believe there are people still this stupid in the civilised world :/

Hint: there aren't. 

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION

« on: October 21, 2008, 10:03:26 AM »

*smacks head* I get it now!  Ast Onok is a moron!  I kinda suspected.

If you want new trolls to come to this forum you need to nurture and protect them.

Don't forget the feeding. It is of utmost importance.

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The Lounge / Re: Dialectics

« on: October 21, 2008, 10:02:34 AM »

I wish I could say "tl;dr"... but I actually took the time to read. Thanks for wasting two minutes of my life, asswipe.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION

« on: October 21, 2008, 09:51:23 AM »

It's the southern hemisphere travel times argument again folks.

Bring in the fish!

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The Lounge / Re: What the shit?

« on: October 21, 2008, 07:41:54 AM »

i love moo?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Drop - How does it happen?

« on: October 21, 2008, 03:20:03 AM »

Moon squirter - did you miss the subtle undertone of sarcasm in my post?

Opps    Must save that Occam rant for another time.

Do it like Tom: save your best posts in an easily accessable place, then copy and paste them whenever they apply again.