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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Spaceflight conspiracy
« on: September 23, 2015, 08:20:35 AM »
United states aren't actually best friends with some of these countries.
Who told you this? Do you believe everything you are told?
They share a common interest of hiding the Truth and Light of God.

Do you believe everything that you read in a several thousand year-old book?

I believe the Word of God. Do you believe God is a liar?

Why? What did he tell you that he didnt tell me? Nothing because the big man is dead. Killed and burried by science and astronomy hundreds off years ago. Dead men can't talk you know.
Now back to the topic please, this has nothing to do with god. And stop citing a several thousand year old sci-fi book.

God cannot die. He formed all, and He will be long after the universe is gone. God may always speak.
This has everything to do with God. The flat world is God's creation, and those that try to conceal its shape with lies about space are doing so to conceal His majesty. They fill the skies with smoke so we cannot see His light, the Sun, and claim to have visited the Star of Bethlehem (the moon) when to do so is clearly impossible. Your discomfort with God has no bearing on truth.

So cute that you think the moon is a star, you should know that if that was true, we would not exist. Your discomfort in reality is sad. You write very poetically, which is nice when you speak about religion, because that's what religion is. Its a good source of poetry but it should not be taken literally. But i do not understand what you mean when concealing gods word, is this a bad thing? Why is this a bad thing?

Btw there's little smoke in the sky, mostly nitrogen and some oxygen. Pluss some parts carbondioxide which can be describes as smoke so in some sence you are right. We should stop filling our atmosphere with CO2 but not because it block gods image, but because it will mess with the natural balance in our ecosystem.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Astronomical Objects
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:01:31 AM »
"The ISS is spherical?  What is your point?  ???"

Now i understood what you meant. No the international space station is not spherical, surely parts of it are. It sure isnt flat anyway.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: star trails
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:19:19 AM »
The stars are a deceit. The Sun is God's light (Genesis 1:3-5), and the stars shine only when it it is set, to test us. Lucifer is called the Morning Star. That which you learn from demons is not truth.

Haha! Good one:)

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Spaceflight conspiracy
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:12:51 AM »
United states aren't actually best friends with some of these countries.
Who told you this? Do you believe everything you are told?
They share a common interest of hiding the Truth and Light of God.

Do you believe everything that you read in a several thousand year-old book?

I believe the Word of God. Do you believe God is a liar?

Why? What did he tell you that he didnt tell me? Nothing because the big man is dead. Killed and burried by science and astronomy hundreds off years ago. Dead men can't talk you know.
Now back to the topic please, this has nothing to do with god. And stop citing a several thousand year old sci-fi book.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: How old is the flat earth?
« on: September 22, 2015, 04:32:38 AM »
Radioactive dating suggests 4,54 billion years +-1%

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Astronomical Objects
« on: September 22, 2015, 04:28:23 AM »
Why is it reasonable to think earth is flat when objects in space clearly are spherical?

The ISS is spherical?  What is your point?  ???

What?

My point is why the flat model works better than the round model. There sees to be no scientific reason to believe so when we observe astronomical objects. We see spherical planets, stars, comets, meteors, moons. But never any flat objects. Just seems a bit strange.

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Flat Earth Debate / Spaceflight conspiracy
« on: September 22, 2015, 12:56:40 AM »
So I read about NASA being a conspiracy and faking all the space launches, since obviously you can't put an artificial satelite into orbit around a flat object accelerating through spacetime. So my question is; how can ESA, India, russia, China, Japan, Iran, Syria, Israel, Nigeria I could go on about countries with space programs and satellites in space. Are they all in on the same scam? Why would all these countries join in and protect this? United states aren't actually best friends with some of these countries. Seems a bit much to grasp dont you think? Did India fake the mars mission? Did ESA really land on a comet? And what is Elon musk doing, spenning his own money on spaceflight?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: star trails
« on: September 21, 2015, 10:05:45 PM »
That is the worst answer I've read. Wouldn't the stars have a linear path if the stars rotated inside a dome over a flat disc?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Watch The Sun Rise Twice
« on: September 21, 2015, 04:34:39 AM »
Still no valid argument from a flat earth's point of view. Dissapointing really, interesting topic though. How can the sun be below the horizon when earth us flat?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The Cubic Earth
« on: September 21, 2015, 04:15:53 AM »
There is no one trying to shoot you down if you want to fly over the south pole, in fact commercial airliners use the route every day/week.

You sure talk alot about magnetism and how metal explodes when exposed. This is bullshit, the magnetic force is nowhere near as strong as gravity and it only afects charged particles, that's why we have Aurora borialis and Aurora australis. I dont think you understand what magnetism is, do not comfuse it with magic.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The Cubic Earth
« on: September 21, 2015, 01:08:31 AM »
How do you expect people to believe you when you provide no evidence what so ever?

Now lets asume earth is cubic, and ice walls keeps water in place, the water would still boulge. Masses of water would concentrate in the center of our side of the cube. And less would concentrate near the ice wall. That is, if gravity works as theory suggests, which you stated previously.

Why doesn't gravity compress it back into a ball if the theory is correct?

Why do we not feel like traveling up hill when moving towards the edges? Is only logical to think edges on a cube act like mountains on a sphere.
I know mountains are heavily debated in this forum but I live on one, so for me they are real.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Astronomical Objects
« on: September 17, 2015, 11:28:47 AM »
I have gained some insight on what flat earth model is about, but I can't say I understand a lot about it. The reason for this thread was to try and understand why it works better than round earth model. I can't say I'm convinced. It seems there is no scientific observation at all or logical reason why earth should be anything else than round. I suspect flat earth theory is simply a pseudonym for anti science.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Astronomical Objects
« on: September 16, 2015, 02:18:48 PM »
Sorry I fail to see how that's relevant. What I don't understand is why planet earth is flat when all other planets are spheres.

Why is the Sun is a ball of plasma when everything else in our Solar System is a lump of rock?
More than one thing can exist. If you take the FE model, the Earth's position is very different to the positions of everything else: it's quite clear that it would had to have formed differently. Why would this give the same result?

Because that's what a solar system is, it's a system of gas, rock and ice orbiting a star. If you look further into space, you will see other stars too. Maybe it's because I don't understand the FE model, but I cant help to wonder why we don't see other flat planets out there.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Satellite image of earth
« on: September 16, 2015, 02:06:27 PM »
Any thoughts from flat earthers?  ???
Nah she's all good, north at the top, south at the bottom. Satellite was positioned correctly to get Australia sitting down under.
Yep matches the other ones.

Looks good to me too. I can clearly see the spot light sun, clouds moving and the Earth spinning. The colors are breathtaking. I can almost see the waves breaking on the shore lines.

How can you tell the sun is a spot light?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Astronomical Objects
« on: September 16, 2015, 11:05:55 AM »
Why doesn't every planet have rings like Saturn?

It makes no sense that every object in space would be similar in shape. Look at how much diversity we find here on Earth.

Also Earth is not a planet.

Actually jupiter, Neptune and Uranus also hve rings. The sun has rings in form of asteroid belts. The milky way have spiral rings of stars, gas and dust. Rings are very common around large rotating bodies.

Why is it logical to think earth is anything else than a planet?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Astronomical Objects
« on: September 16, 2015, 08:31:11 AM »
No, we should not rush to any conclusions. To simplify, what are the most common shapes in our solar system?
That we observe, spheres. However, if we were on the Sun, we would observe everything in our Solar System to be planets.

No, we would still see planets, comets, asteroids, meteors, meteorites and dwarf planets.
Certainly, my point was simply that we would not observe other stars in our Solar System.

Sorry I fail to see how that's relevant. What I don't understand is why planet earth is flat when all other planets are spheres.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Astronomical Objects
« on: September 16, 2015, 05:13:06 AM »
No, we should not rush to any conclusions. To simplify, what are the most common shapes in our solar system?
That we observe, spheres. However, if we were on the Sun, we would observe everything in our Solar System to be planets.

No, we would still see planets, comets, asteroids, meteors, meteorites and dwarf planets.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Astronomical Objects
« on: September 16, 2015, 04:49:44 AM »
No, we should not rush to any conclusions. To simplify, what are the most common shapes in our solar system?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Critical Thinking and Religion on a Flat Earth
« on: September 16, 2015, 04:37:38 AM »
I am looking to get insigth on the subject of science and religion. I am sorry you do not have to answer if you do not want to, of course.

I must say I disagree with you on what religion is.
Then stop trawling and define your terms. 

I bet you can not define the word "religion" in any intelligent non-circular manner.

There is by definition no single definition on religion.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Astronomical Objects
« on: September 16, 2015, 04:08:41 AM »
Why is it reasonable to think earth is flat when objects in space clearly are spherical?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Critical Thinking and Religion on a Flat Earth
« on: September 15, 2015, 02:10:32 PM »
Bitter you are, small penis perhaps?

Read you must, before answer you do.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Critical Thinking and Religion on a Flat Earth
« on: September 15, 2015, 04:33:03 AM »
Well I believe in God. I place no faith in the spherical world of the zombie.

But is god less fictional than zombies?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Critical Thinking and Religion on a Flat Earth
« on: September 15, 2015, 03:57:43 AM »

Does your username come from the German name for ball lightening, "kugleblitz"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugelblitz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugelblitz_%28astrophysics%29

Yes, a kugelblitz is a black hole that is fueled by superheated gas and dust getting swallowed by the black hole. I think it's one of the brightest objects in the known universe.

I want everyone to answer,
Yeah....... right.  Okee dokee.  I get it. 

Folks, 
This OP is obviously a data collection survey and a rorschach test at best. 


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The fact of the matter is that the concept of "religion" is a man-made fiction in and of itself.  The definition of "religion" is non-limiting and purely arbitrary.  There is no objective definition of "religion" that can exclude ANY scientient man. 

A "religion" is any vague set of beliefs --- be they seemingly organized or not --- for which the man in question does not question nor seek to prove to himself.  Believing that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning is a religion. 

Man is by his very nature religious because it is impossible for man to know everything.  By necessity, man must venture out into the unknown to survive.  He must take a gamble while assuming/believing he knows what is unknowable to him.  Minimally, man must assume that the sun will return tomorrow and it is a good assumption ---- he does not need to prove it to be true and frankly, every effort he makes to convince himself of such certainty is wasted effort. 

Democracy is a form of religion. 

I'm not that familiar with the terms you are using. I am looking to get insigth on the subject of science and religion. I am sorry you do not have to answer if you do not want to, of course.

I must say I disagree with you on what religion is. In my opinion, many people need superstitious believes, and many people do not. Personally I do not need religion in my life, I think that moral and ethical values are programmed in our brain by millions of years of selective evolution to benefit individuals with morality for friendship and teamwork to survive. Because for me religion is a guide in life choices generally. And I am perfectly fine with not knowing everything, I am sure mankind never will know everything either. It is the search for knowledge that is my purpose, and not settling for simplified explanations. Example: if the bible said the earth was 6000 years old, I would not beileve it for fact. I think we know more now than we did 2000 years ago.
I do not think democracy is a religion, it is an ideology and form of government.

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Flat Earth Debate / Critical Thinking and Religion on a Flat Earth
« on: September 14, 2015, 12:08:05 PM »
Hello, I am a new member to this page. I learned about this community through a youtube channel called Vsauce. I am a man of science but I like to have a critical angulation to every subject.

I have a lot of questions that I am sure we will have a great time debating, but those are due another time. For now I will simply stay with this one:

I think i should first tell you that I am an agnostic, I'm not an atheist. Hope you know what this means.

My question is, since this debate is about the shape of the earth, does your religious values have anything to do with your believes on the earth's shape?

I want everyone to answer, please inform me if this thread belongs in a different cathegory. Happy debate and be nice!

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