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----After spending over sixteen million dollars and using over 48 thousand yards of industrial strength strapping tape, we of the Flat Earth Society were able to construct an enormously powerful neurotransmitter that can implant suggestions directly into the brains of the nearby non-Flat Earthers. Having set it up just outside of the Russian Antarctic exploration post (Vostok), we are awaiting word that all three scientists and 174 penguins have been shown the light.
The original flat earth was confined, restricted, and twisted into a perverse spherical shape by a conspiracy of TELEVISION BROADCASTERS in an attempt to realize their dream of TOTAL HUMAN MIND CONTROL through subsurviant captive homogonized market share....The big question of course is how they managed to spherize the Earth. There is some speculation that they somehow managed to tinker with some of the cosmological constants that define our particular universe in such a way as to redefine the world's stable state from flat to spherical.
Actually, in Usernames defense in that regard, you can find people of like mind almost anywhere you go. Although I happen to believe in a RE... I'm betting if UN does a good job putting out the info and trying to start a chapter... it will happen. Just depends on how much you want to pursue your ideals.
Kind of like my Irish music. I play whistle, there wasn't a jam session/Hoolie in the area. Took me months to get some people together that also played Irish / Celtic type music, but 4 years later... it's still going and growing (sometimes as many as 20 people)!
perhaps i missed something in the FAQ: what's the FE explanation for phases of the moon?
Lunar phase in FE refers to the appearance of the illuminated portion of the Moon as seen by an observer on Earth. The lunar phases vary cyclically as the Moon orbits the hub of the Earth, according to the changing geometry of the Moon and Sun, which rotate at slightly different velocities. One half of the lunar surface is always illuminated by the Sun, and is hence bright, but the portion of the illuminated hemisphere that is visible to an observer can vary from 100% (full moon) to 0% (new moon). The boundary between the illuminated and unilluminated hemispheres is called the terminator.
The Moon exhibits different phases as the relative geometry of Sun and Moon change, appearing as a full moon when the Sun and Moon are on opposite sides of the observer, and as a new moon it is not visible at night when they are on the same side of the observer. The phases of full moon and new moon are examples of syzygies, which occur when the Moon, observer, and Sun lie approximately in a straight line. The time between two full moons, or between successive occurrences of the same phase, is about 29.53 days (29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes) on average. This synodic month is longer than the time it takes the Moon to make one orbit about the hub of the Earth with respect to the stars (the sidereal month), which is about 27.32 days. This difference is caused by the fact that the Moon system is orbiting about the Sun at the same time the Moon is orbiting about the hub of the Earth. The actual time between two syzygies is variable because the orbit of the Moon is elliptic and subject to various periodic perturbations, which change the velocity of the Moon.
Tides are caused by the gravitational pull of the moon and the antimoon, which orbits opposite and underneath the earth.
Quite a convincing act!
actually no. But it's all you'll get this time, because I can't be bothered.
Questions I still want an answer for:Okay, I have another question that I never saw an answer to:Quote from: FE FAQQ: "If the Earth was indeed a flat disc, wouldn't the whole planet crunch up into itself and eventually transform into a ball?"
A1: If the Earth generated a gravitational field, yes, it would eventually happen, after a billion years maybe. FE assumes that the Earth does not generate a gravitational field. What we know as 'gravity' is provided by the acceleration of the earth.
A2: There is a counter-mass which pulls the Earth back into a disc shape.
Q: "Why does gravity vary with altitude?"
A: The moon and stars have a slight gravitational pull.
Q: Follow-up to previous question: How is it that the Earth does not have a gravitational pull, but stars and the moon do?
A: This argument is a non sequitur. You might as well ask, "How is it that snakes do not have legs, but dogs and cats do?" Snakes are not dogs or cats. The Earth is not a star or the moon. It doesn't follow that each must have exactly the properties of the others, and no more.
So, is there such a thing as gravity or not? Can't have it both ways. If so, what causes that gravity? Is it the mass of the stars and moon? Is it what they're made of? Please don't tell me it's related to DEF again.This isn't about "moon and stars having gravity VS. earth having gravity," BTW, which is what is addressed in the FAQ.
I now have a clearer understanding of WHAT the DEF is supposed to be, but still do not understand how that relates to the bold sections above. Is it everywhere? Is it just in a "bubble" of sorts around the FE solar system (I don't know what else to call it)? If it's a bubble, what holds it in place? If it's everywhere, why doesn't it push down on the atmosphere?The DEF is a direct consequence of the interaction of Dark Energy and the magnetic field of the Earth. Dark Energy is responsible for the acceleration of the visible celestial bodies.
Now, I understand having to change the model of an FE universe with the times and undebatable scientific fact. (Boy, did THAT sound funny, on account of the nature of what we're discussing. XD) And I understand that all of what you're hypothesizing is impossible to prove, if I grant you that we "have never sent anything to space." However, based on what you assume to be rock-solid scientific fact, I'd like ideas on the questions above. Not FACTS, as it would be impossible to determine (to your satisfaction) whether they are, in actuality, facts. Just your hypotheses.
I know it's easier to ignore questions which are difficult or uncomfortable to answer, but for your theory to have any credibility, you can't just answer the questions you like and forget the ones you don't. Please provide some speculation.
PS, I will not be online again for a few days, so feel free to take a while thinking if it's required. But don't forget to answer, please.
Part III: Phenomenon
Q: How do tides happen?
A: As stated earlier, the other celestial bodies have a gravitational pull. They pull on the water, causing it to bulge in some parts.
The answer is that all pendulums are actually made by the Conspiracy, and thus programmed to give out false results.
While we're at it...
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=13876.0
~D-Draw
He said there is no gravity. I don't see the complication.Here, let me help you.
Quote from: UsernameEven in round earth there is no "real gravity", just gravitation.
However, there is more gravitational pull from above the moon than from the earth. This is why we can see that the moon is moving away from the earth at about 4cm per year.Quote from: UsernameHow does the black hole pull anything if there is no true gravity?
1. Your belief in Gravity seems dependent on the debate...
2. How do you know the moon is moving away at 4cm per year if you don't believe in NASA and other research and governmental groups?
A) I wasn't singling out the flat Earth theory, more satirizing to show how stupid his statement was.
~D-Draw
D-Draw: Are you referring to me? I can't tell.
whoa! a chick? no no no. probably a dude posing.
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Good enough.
I thought it was generally accepted that He was born on 25 December.
The tons of people who claim Jesus Christ was born in December are correct - 25 December according to the Julian Calendar to be exact.
You apparently did not notice that I placed underneath my quote of Dogplatter the parenthetical note indicating that he was born on 7 January OF THE GREGORIAN CALENDAR. The Gregorian Calendar is removed from the Julian Calendar by 13 days. 13 days before the Gregorian date of 7 January gives the Julian date of 25 December. The Orthodox celebrate the birth of Christ on 25 December. What we call 25 December is what most people nowadays call 7 January. We celebrated Christmas a week ago.
Today is the first of January (despite the fact that most of the World follows the papacy in mislabelling today as 14 January).
Many years, everyone.
Jesus Christ was born on 25 December - the longest night of the year (Winter Solstice) - meaning that from the moment He came into the World, the Light will increase.
Which is more likely? The one with the least number of assumptions is more likely (Theory 1).More likely, but not necessarily correct. Which is the point.
after my brief time here, and beyond that via lurking, and reading the faq, i've noticed some real problems with fe that people like bishop pretend don't exist. i know other people have done this too, and for re'ers it won't be much of a lesson. but this is different. first, it's my own (slightly) unique observations. second, it's table rather than faq style. third, i think it is a decent concentration of fe problems.
where possible (in most cases), i've used actual quotes and paraphrases from fe'ers. when you look at it this way, how could anyone possibly believe the fe model? it boggles the mind.
any particularly outrageous fe explanation came from actual quotes; i can't make this shit up. my own interpretations of fe theory are very conservative and unremarkable.
God is greater than science.
It is not...That is the problem with you people. When you can't provide facts, you attack the posterHow did I attack him? And why do I have a feeling you're being inherently hypocritical in that statement?
http://web2.kwangju.ac.kr/~tak/cosmos/planets/Earth-Globe.jpg
NASA propaganda.QuoteTaken this month.
NASA propaganda.QuoteLet's see; Greeks, Galileo, NASA, photos, sky divers, stratosphere sky divers, sinking ships, renaissance explorers, flight paths, books, rockets....
And none of which involves controlled experiments in the least.QuoteSo TomB can you explain why tides, eclipses, moon phases, and why we always see the same side of the moon? And if the moon is only a couple thousand miles above the earth why is it that we cannot see the surface of it clearly with telescopes that can focus in on things that are hundreds of thousands of miles away?
You came here and sought us out. We did not seek you out. Therefore the onus is on you to demonstrate that your hypothetical model of the earth is correct.
A) I wasn't singling out the flat Earth theory, more satirizing to show how stupid his statement was.
~D-Draw
Quote from: Tom BishopThe conspiracy is all-powerful, it consists of all the world governments, and has unlimited resources. Their prime goal, aside from making people think the Earth is round, is to prepare the human race for enslavement by the zargons.
Just because FE makes no sense doesn't mean people who realise it doesn't make sense are retards.
