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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earthers view on Climate change
« on: June 26, 2015, 01:41:46 PM »
What if sceptimatic is correct when he says the earth is growing. The Arctic gets colder, for many scientists are claiming the Arctic is getting colder so there are no more palm trees,
http://www.news.com.au/world/palm-trees-flourished-in-arctic-study/story-e6frfkz9-1225791205191
And the Antarctic gets warmer melting ice creating new land?
the earth is absolutely growing because human beings are multiplying , and other creature are multiplying too, there are a lot of space to create new beings by they creator, and he probably wants it like that, that will be a lot of space for interesting thing on earth.

look at this:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-06-03/pacific-islands-growing-not-sinking/851738

first they say icebergs are melting but then The lunatic scientists say the truth everyone knows: the earth landmass grow bigger.

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Also, why do people like jroa have thousands of posts and continue to follow
this debate if they're certain of one model?
Because we know there are evil people like mikeman and bijane who have interest to hide things, they call it science, they million and biliions and trilions of money to cover up the secret and they have the agenda to control over people, if people discover the earth was flat their entire life will be changed and they have a lot of money and the agenda to hide from us the levelness of earth and the existence of god.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of gravity
« on: June 26, 2015, 01:34:59 PM »
Tell me, creating a ball earth which people has to navigate with a curve and live with their head upside down and then creating a law which keep them on ground just to cover up the shape of the earth is sound like elegant to you ?

Yes, it does.  God created the laws of physics in such a way that when a bunch of matter is introduced via the big bang it forms into the incredible complexity we see all by it's self.  How is that not elegant?
It's sound bullshit and idiotic only in your sick mind someone can see it like that, god created life on earth just for things occur by chance ?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of gravity
« on: June 26, 2015, 01:27:12 PM »
To make the earth tilted , to make the earth rotating, to make the sun moving in 65000 mph in the universe just for life to be sustainable does it sound to you elegant ? I find it clumsy only as human weakness can guess.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of gravity
« on: June 26, 2015, 01:24:08 PM »
what an idiot god so lunatic why not making thing simple ?

Because then life would be simple, and that's not what God wanted.  Life is supposed to be challenging.
elements of life should be elegant do you agree ?

What part of 4 fundamental forces governing all motion is not elegant?  If you think that physics is not elegant that you clearly haven't studied it much.
Tell me, creating a ball earth which people has to navigate with a curve and live with their head upside down and then creating a law which keep them on ground just to cover up the shape of the earth is sound like elegant to you ?

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"If any flat earther backed up even a single claim then I am sure it wouldn't go unnoticed by round earthers because it's something that we have never seen before.  If flat earthers actually did research and used their brains then they woyldn't be flat earthers for long."
who said that mikeman ? you liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of gravity
« on: June 26, 2015, 01:17:57 PM »
what an idiot god so lunatic why not making thing simple ?

Because then life would be simple, and that's not what God wanted.  Life is supposed to be challenging.
elements of life should be elegant do you agree ?

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The truth is very simple. Good luck with your belief-system.

If, in case I do come back, you are still repeating the same thing over and over again on this FE-Forum and still calling FE-people an idiot because they don't believe in your science, there is really something wrong with you.

What do you mean still calling flat earthers idiot?  Quote one time where I called a flat earther an idiot.
Many times, you told me I have no brain at all.

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Is the velocity of the shuttle's exhaust 10.000 mph or not?
Cos if it is, then Newton 3 takes care of the rest...
That's neither a yes or a no.
Is velocity a force?
there are questions that you can't answer with yes or no you evil woman

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The Lounge / Re: Tell us About Yourself
« on: June 26, 2015, 12:09:21 PM »

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I wish I hadn't looked in on the ifers forum... It's like watching a slow motion train wreck... 

I'm  intrigued by the feeding frenzy that's going on over there with this Jeranism  scandal,   I have no idea exactly what he's supposed to have done, some kind of a scam involving bitcoins it seems,  but what I am interested in is how quickly the ifers mob turned on "one of their own"    not just  the bit coin scam but  seemingly Jeran sided with Mark Sargent in an interview.   Bad move!
To cap it off Eric donated $200 to Jeran to fund the videoing of a laser experiment,  which all went wrong.   

Flat earth soap opera and high drama.    http://ifers.boards.net/thread/522/saying-hi-happy-jeranism?page=10

I never thought much of his Jeranism flat earth videos,  they were slickly produced, but the content was pretty weak,  and his catch phrase "Astronots to the moon haha"  was pretty annoying.
Rayzor that all you have in your life watching over Flat earth sites ? hahahahaha you pathetic hahahahah
For once I agree,  I feel significantly dumber after reading what passes for discussion over there,  there is no debate, nothing...  all just  worshiping the supreme leader,  very strange.  Then when one falls out of favour, it's like a pack of wolves.   Waste of time.
There is absence of actual content that's I agree, I don't know why.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of gravity
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:58:48 AM »
Weight is another constant in nature that god created.

That's like saying that your car works because an engineer designed it.  That explains why it works, not how it works.  Just because an engineer designed your car doesn't mean that it won't do you good learning how it works.  God made things have weight by making gravity.
what an idiot god so lunatic why not making thing simple ?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Satellites
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:56:59 AM »
How do you know they are satellites and not meteorites? Please pray tell.

Satellites are much slower and dimmer then meteorites and they also clearly move across the sky instead of down towards Earth.  Satellites also appear on regular intervals and their location can be predicted if you know the velocities and the positions of all satellites in the sky and apply some Newtonian laws and math.
How do you know they are satellites and not meteorites? Please pray tell.

Satellites are much slower and dimmer then meteorites and they also clearly move across the sky instead of down towards Earth.  Satellites also appear on regular intervals and their location can be predicted if you know the velocities and the positions of all satellites in the sky and apply some Newtonian laws and math.

Any scientist worth a darn will tell you that metorites are much, much slower than satellites relative to the Earth.

Anyone who knows the first thing about orbital mechanics knows that it's impossible for a meteorite to approach Earth from interplanetary space and hit Earth slower then escape velocity, which is much faster then orbital velocity.

Meteor, NOT meteorite,  it doesn't become a meteorite until AFTER it hits the ground.
which was never happened, no matter what nasa or other fraudsters photos you show me.

I know you are just trolling for fun,  but  meteorites aren't that uncommon,  you can buy them on ebay.
Everyone who says the simple truth of life is trolling ? that you can buy them in ebay  make it more suspicious.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of gravity
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:55:13 AM »
WOW Sokarul actually admitted he is shill. look he came from the industry that why he is lying.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Satellites
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:50:41 AM »
How do you know they are satellites and not meteorites? Please pray tell.

Satellites are much slower and dimmer then meteorites and they also clearly move across the sky instead of down towards Earth.  Satellites also appear on regular intervals and their location can be predicted if you know the velocities and the positions of all satellites in the sky and apply some Newtonian laws and math.
How do you know they are satellites and not meteorites? Please pray tell.

Satellites are much slower and dimmer then meteorites and they also clearly move across the sky instead of down towards Earth.  Satellites also appear on regular intervals and their location can be predicted if you know the velocities and the positions of all satellites in the sky and apply some Newtonian laws and math.

Any scientist worth a darn will tell you that metorites are much, much slower than satellites relative to the Earth.

Anyone who knows the first thing about orbital mechanics knows that it's impossible for a meteorite to approach Earth from interplanetary space and hit Earth slower then escape velocity, which is much faster then orbital velocity.

Meteor, NOT meteorite,  it doesn't become a meteorite until AFTER it hits the ground.
which was never happened, no matter what nasa or other fraudsters photos you show me.

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I wish I hadn't looked in on the ifers forum... It's like watching a slow motion train wreck... 

I'm  intrigued by the feeding frenzy that's going on over there with this Jeranism  scandal,   I have no idea exactly what he's supposed to have done, some kind of a scam involving bitcoins it seems,  but what I am interested in is how quickly the ifers mob turned on "one of their own"    not just  the bit coin scam but  seemingly Jeran sided with Mark Sargent in an interview.   Bad move!
To cap it off Eric donated $200 to Jeran to fund the videoing of a laser experiment,  which all went wrong.   

Flat earth soap opera and high drama.    http://ifers.boards.net/thread/522/saying-hi-happy-jeranism?page=10

I never thought much of his Jeranism flat earth videos,  they were slickly produced, but the content was pretty weak,  and his catch phrase "Astronots to the moon haha"  was pretty annoying.
Rayzor that all you have in your life watching over Flat earth sites ? hahahahaha you pathetic hahahahah

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Flat Earth General / Re: Someone should cover a rocket launch
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:33:04 AM »
Why don't you apply, then you can tell us how you failed to be picked and are jealous of those that did get picked. This way we can then believe it all and go about our lives, knowing that NASA and all the rest of the alliances are all legitimate.  ;D ;) :P ::) 8)

You should also bring a telescope so you can track the rocket as it goes to orbit, you can watch it jettison stages and stuff.
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at the end you can see the engines switch off and the rocket probably going where it deserve to the ocean.

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Mikeman ? why don't you answer me when I said that camera distorting horizon in endless ways and that curvature is changing over and over and I even showed when there is no curvature at all look at the video when I mention 2:22.
You are liar and I know you repeat the same lie you little liar and robot-spam.
I know you are a little scientist who only know to lie and manipulate.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Satellites
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:17:06 AM »
How do you know they are satellites and not meteorites? Please pray tell.

Satellites are much slower and dimmer then meteorites and they also clearly move across the sky instead of down towards Earth.  Satellites also appear on regular intervals and their location can be predicted if you know the velocities and the positions of all satellites in the sky and apply some Newtonian laws and math.
How do you know they are satellites and not meteorites? Please pray tell.

Satellites are much slower and dimmer then meteorites and they also clearly move across the sky instead of down towards Earth.  Satellites also appear on regular intervals and their location can be predicted if you know the velocities and the positions of all satellites in the sky and apply some Newtonian laws and math.

Any scientist worth a darn will tell you that metorites are much, much slower than satellites relative to the Earth.

Anyone who knows the first thing about orbital mechanics knows that it's impossible for a meteorite to approach Earth from interplanetary space and hit Earth slower then escape velocity, which is much faster then orbital velocity.
Are you just autistic or a really robotic spam-snob.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of gravity
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:16:05 AM »
100% gravity does not exist. It is a total fabrication.

At the risk of confusing the issue at hand, that statement might be closer to truth than you realise ( or intended )  what we interpret as gravity is distortion of space-time by mass,  so does gravity really exist.  I don't know that there is an easy answer to that,   some might say that on a galactic scale our understanding of gravity is flawed, in the sense it doesn't match observed galactic rotation profiles,  so dark matter is proposed as a kind of fudge factor.  Although it might still be proven to be exist. 

Back on less than galactic scales,  the force we call gravity behaves exactly according to Newton,  and it's predictions are accurate.    The denspressure theory neglects to explain why some things are heavier than others,  what causes the density to change from the bowling ball to the tennis ball?   The mass per unit volume is different,  we know what volume is, so what determines the force acting on the mass to cause the density to be different?    Gravity.

Why  does the bowling ball weigh more than the tennis ball in denspressure theory?
Weight is another constant in nature that god created.

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Actually, I can prove that (your) god does not exist (which does not mean that evolution exists), but you would not accept it.
I don't have the urge to come to your mormon church or your religious forum every day to make my point and to convince you (repeating the same thing over and over again, ignoring and ridiculing your statements, requests and observations, calling you an idiot as you don't believe in science, calling you a liar, stupid, etc.)
That would be a weird thing to do, don't you think so?

You are right, to call you a worshiper is too strong, although that is what you do in your church. It's one of the many illusions you have.

As far as I am concerned the debat is over. I won't come here again.

It is good that you do your own research, but leaving out other people's videos and not doing your own long distance observations trying to see if (or prove that) a Round-Earth horizon really exists is a mistake.

All the best, Mikeman!

In case you do come back, I will respond to this.

That did not disprove my religion.  The truth is supposed to be hard to find, and God doesn't even expect everyone to be any one specific religion.
God also expect the earth to be flat because it much more elegant and simple and sustainability comfort for living beings but according to mike god is idiot and humanly weak.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of gravity
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:13:21 AM »
What is pushed up by a force must also fall with equal reactive force. It's easier to carry a tennis ball up a skyscraper. It would be hard to carry a bowling ball up a skyscraper. Assuming walking up steps.
Once at the top, if you drop both balls, you will notice that the bowling ball falls much faster.
The reason for this is simple if people cared to look at it. The bowling ball is much more dense and can repel much more ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE upon it than the tennis ball which is filled with sea level atmospheric pressure to start with so most of it is already part of the atmosphere and all that is repelling the atmosphere, is the skin of the ball. The 5 mm thick rubber.

At the top of that skyscraper, the atmosphere still wants to push that ball back down to the ground because you are simply holding it up by your energy, still, which you have done up to that height. Therefore that bowling ball has to hit that ground with the same reactive energy to the active energy you gave it.
The tennis ball is the same but due to it being far easier to carry up, you'll see a remarkable difference in the speed of them hitting the ground as well as the force.

Doing this from shoulder height is bullshit. Also doing this in a so called vacuum is also bullshit because there's not a vacuum chamber big enough that can push a vacuum enough to test this out.
Of course we get told there's a huge one but that's about as true as all the rest of the bullshit. The large one can maybe evacuate a small amount of pressure.

100% gravity does not exist. It is a total fabrication.

I just realized that balloons floating up is proof that denpressure is not real.  How would density effect something if air pressure is the only force acting on it?  Another disproof of denpressure is things like beach balls sinking in air and floating in water.  Water is denser then air, and according to denpressure that should make the beach ball heavier in water
Why things attract downwards it's two thing: weight+size it take relative to weight.
Beach balls are way heavier and small in size than the air could hold them floating, but water is much more stronger.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of gravity
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:11:07 AM »
Gravity is science - science is fake and trickery.

Modern medicine came about because of science and it clearly works.  Computers were invented with science and they clearly work.  You cannot deny that science works because it's so obvious.
Modern medicine=science=trickery computers=hand craftsmanship very very different from the essence of cheating and fraud in science.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of gravity
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:04:12 AM »
What is pushed up by a force must also fall with equal reactive force. It's easier to carry a tennis ball up a skyscraper. It would be hard to carry a bowling ball up a skyscraper. Assuming walking up steps.
Once at the top, if you drop both balls, you will notice that the bowling ball falls much faster.
The reason for this is simple if people cared to look at it. The bowling ball is much more dense and can repel much more ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE upon it than the tennis ball which is filled with sea level atmospheric pressure to start with so most of it is already part of the atmosphere and all that is repelling the atmosphere, is the skin of the ball. The 5 mm thick rubber.

At the top of that skyscraper, the atmosphere still wants to push that ball back down to the ground because you are simply holding it up by your energy, still, which you have done up to that height. Therefore that bowling ball has to hit that ground with the same reactive energy to the active energy you gave it.
The tennis ball is the same but due to it being far easier to carry up, you'll see a remarkable difference in the speed of them hitting the ground as well as the force.

Doing this from shoulder height is bullshit. Also doing this in a so called vacuum is also bullshit because there's not a vacuum chamber big enough that can push a vacuum enough to test this out.
Of course we get told there's a huge one but that's about as true as all the rest of the bullshit. The large one can maybe evacuate a small amount of pressure.

100% gravity does not exist. It is a total fabrication.
Gravity is science - science is fake and trickery.

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you bring all your information from google you liar, what to expect from a company that runs the google earth ?

Still no facts, I see, just another accusation of lying. C'mon! Can't you come up with something I've said that you can show is wrong?
Star trails are fake.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Foucault pendulum - FAKE
« on: June 25, 2015, 03:01:36 PM »
To the REers,

This post was simply pointing out how one person researched and proved the  Foucault pendulum was a fake, hoax and a worthless contraption. I've read many articles that points this out. I just wanted my fellow FEers to have another small bit of information to use against you REers.

I'm sorry you guys believe the Foucault pendulum is a real device that can be used to verify the Earth is spinning. You guys can't be that naive, you should know better by now as many times the flaws have been pointed out to you. It is absolutely a fake device. It proves nothing. It doesn't even work most of the time. Open your minds and do some reading, you will soon discover what me and the author knows.
Yendor

No, he claimed it, that's different. And I'll claim that Foucaul's pendulum is actual, and I'll use the thousands of pages scientists already wrote about this subject as backup. That's still more than your guys' claims, based on nothing, and backed up by nothing.
Sure you back up your claims by scientist because all of them are the liars from the pit of hell.

Those liars may have saved your mom when she gave you birth, saved you a lot of time through medecines, etc etc. Hopefully they don't lie when creating formulaes for medecines and engines to operate the human body, right ? ;)

You're just a dumbass.
I didn't ask them to help my mother in giving birth, thats a job that every woman in a village in india can do.
i hate medicine, Medicine is the same shit just as science.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Foucault pendulum - FAKE
« on: June 25, 2015, 02:53:26 PM »
To the REers,

This post was simply pointing out how one person researched and proved the  Foucault pendulum was a fake, hoax and a worthless contraption. I've read many articles that points this out. I just wanted my fellow FEers to have another small bit of information to use against you REers.

I'm sorry you guys believe the Foucault pendulum is a real device that can be used to verify the Earth is spinning. You guys can't be that naive, you should know better by now as many times the flaws have been pointed out to you. It is absolutely a fake device. It proves nothing. It doesn't even work most of the time. Open your minds and do some reading, you will soon discover what me and the author knows.
Yendor

No, he claimed it, that's different. And I'll claim that Foucaul's pendulum is actual, and I'll use the thousands of pages scientists already wrote about this subject as backup. That's still more than your guys' claims, based on nothing, and backed up by nothing.
Sure you back up your claims by scientist because all of them are the liars from the pit of hell.

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Neutral you have to understand that Alpha2omega wraps is whole life with lies , his life is lie, he is liar from the first grade.

Nah. You just don't like the answers I give and call them lies.

If you can actually counter anything I say with facts, have at it! If not, that's your problem, not mine.
you bring all your information from google you liar, what to expect from a company that runs the google earth ?

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Neutral you have to understand that Alpha2omega wraps is whole life with lies , his life is lie, he is liar from the first grade.

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I believe in you PAPA, BiJane is an evil woman.

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