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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric universe(天圓地方, round sky and square earth)

« on: June 16, 2019, 03:31:51 PM »

The Earth's motion is unverifiable.
It is against Galileo's relativity if it can be proved.
It is therefore self-contradictory.

Foucault pendulum is a fraud.
Even if the pendulum moves, it's not caused by the rotation.
Allais effect proves it.
According to it, the periodic changes in the sun and moon can be the cause.
The periodic changes is a typical yin and yang effect.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric universe(天圓地方, round sky and square earth)

« on: June 07, 2019, 03:02:00 AM »

Nope. The earth's being stationary is a fact, not a claim.

No it isn't a fact.
It is a baseless claim, yet to be supported by a single piece of evidence or rational argument and completely refuted by actual evidence.
If you want to claim Earth is stationary YOU NEED TO PROVE IT!
Stop trying to shift or reject the burden of proof.

Wise is right.
JackBlack, What you say is just far-fetched.
It is a sense that the earth is not moving.
I don't need to prove my senses.
The same is true of your senses.
In other words, we are individual beings but have common senses.
There is no need to prove the common senses.
But inference, not sensation, requires proof.

Wise, time and space need some explanation.
I will explain it in detail in a book to be published and videos later.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric universe(天圓地方, round sky and square earth)

« on: June 06, 2019, 02:06:39 AM »

One thing that I think is that the sun's rotation is equal to one day. So, if we turn around the earth in the same direction as the sun, does the time stop for us?

Another question was on my mind but I forgot now. I think they wanted me to forget that. I will add when I remember.

Not exactly, because the ground is moving.
The movement of space is that time passes.
Time and space are the same.

Ground is not moving. Otherwise we could feel it phsically. neither in the simulation model nor in the Homocentric universe does not need such a thing. You have to change this thought.

Of course, the ground doesn't move.
I just answered you asked me what would happen if I moved along the sun.
If I'm riding on the sun, the ground looks like moving.
I think you misunderstood.

At any rate, the point is that time and space are the same.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric universe(天圓地方, round sky and square earth)

« on: June 03, 2019, 04:37:39 AM »

One thing that I think is that the sun's rotation is equal to one day. So, if we turn around the earth in the same direction as the sun, does the time stop for us?

Another question was on my mind but I forgot now. I think they wanted me to forget that. I will add when I remember.

Not exactly, because the ground is moving.
The movement of space is that time passes.
Time and space are the same.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric universe(天圓地方, round sky and square earth)

« on: June 03, 2019, 04:30:05 AM »

God is not transcendent but intrinsic.
Man is the image of God.

You have that the wrong way around. God is the image of man.
There is nothing about reality which makes god intrinsic.

The thoughts and actions we are doing are divine.
Don't just think of superpowers childishly.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric universe(天圓地方, round sky and square earth)

« on: June 03, 2019, 04:19:08 AM »

God is not transcendent but intrinsic.
Man is the image of God.
Don't try to find God in the distance.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric universe(天圓地方, round sky and square earth)

« on: June 03, 2019, 04:16:48 AM »

The above two presuppose an outside world that has nothing to do with me.
Of course, that's a very common idea.
But that doesn't mean it's true.

Truth is in conformity with nature or divine providence.
After all, the truth has to fit both science and religion.
There is an observer effect in quantum mechanics.
So is most religious teachings.

"You're the son of God and the hero of the world."

Recently, my interest in your threads has increased. That's because I started believing in simulation theory. That made me close to your thoughts. in this process, I try to understand the points where the Homocentric universe and simulation theory converge and dissociate.

It is clear that the story of this world is fabricated. I've said this before. I am one of the 7 billion people in this world. much smarter people have lived, much richer people have lived. I have discovered a few different types of immortality. I say, this problem should be discussed and resolved before I live. this is proof that the world is fabricated. I think that we will accelerate the process if we share new findings. Never mind the globularists. Think about my writings. they're just a waste of time.

The classic human body password in the world is energy consumption.There is no life time concept. There are total energy concept. At the beginning of life, people are given a certain energy. I was given a total energy and options were offered for me to use. The main factors affecting the life span according to energy usage are as follows.

E: Total energy. constant.

physical mass: if this value increases, the life time decreases.

intelligence: if this value increases, the life time decreases.

power: if this value increases, the life time decreases.

wealth: if this value increases, the life time decreases.

ambition: if this value increases, the life time decreases.

sport/mobility: if this value increases, the life time decreases.

We can increase the list. The first 3 factors I have marked as bold character offered for me; I have added the remained lines as I predicted them.

One thing that I think is that the sun's rotation is equal to one day. So, if we turn around the earth in the same direction as the sun, does the time stop for us?

Another question was on my mind but I forgot now. I think they wanted me to forget that. I will add when I remember.

Interesting. Your story is similar to the Eastern yin-yang principle.
The principle I pursue is yin-yang.
I Ching will be helpful.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric universe(天圓地方, round sky and square earth)

« on: June 02, 2019, 10:46:54 AM »

The above two presuppose an outside world that has nothing to do with me.
Of course, that's a very common idea.
But that doesn't mean it's true.

Truth is in conformity with nature or divine providence.
After all, the truth has to fit both science and religion.
There is an observer effect in quantum mechanics.
So is most religious teachings.

"You're the son of God and the hero of the world."

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric universe(天圓地方, round sky and square earth)

« on: May 31, 2019, 07:43:55 AM »

So I changed the title of this post.
The holographic universe and the multiverse prove that I am the center of the universe.

It is the exact opposite of current cosmology, but it can explain current phenomena exactly.
After all, it is a matter of choice.
The choice of whether you are insignificant or the main character.
In the end, it is up to you.

In other words, worldview is not a matter of geometry, but of values.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: May 31, 2019, 07:22:02 AM »

Can you evidence this statement:

If we do not exist in the same universe we would be isolated from one another and unable to interact.
In order to interact we need to exist in the same place in some way.

I want to ask you.
How can you perceive the world without you?
So what's the first thing?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: May 31, 2019, 07:17:30 AM »

That everyone is central is different from that there is no center.
There are many people, but no one can get into another's mind.
We only live in our own minds.
The same is true of non-human creatures.
Everything lives in their own universe.

Therefore, there are so many worlds.
But they become a world in harmony.

Do things out of anybody's mind exist?
Do things care if they are in someone's mind or not?

We can't know beyond our own minds.
It's just the realm of our imagination and conjecture.
I only know my mind and my senses.
What's clear is that this world is my senses.
Beyond my senses is the realm of imagination and conjecture.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: May 31, 2019, 07:09:00 AM »

That everyone is central is different from that there is no center.

Yes, one literally makes no sense unless everyone is at one point.

Everything lives in their own universe.

While we all have our own interpretation and experience of the universe, it is the one universe that is shared. Otherwise we would be unable to interact.

Can you evidence this statement:

Otherwise we would be unable to interact.

John, I knew this place four years ago.
I learned a lot here.
Thank you for your efforts.
But we have to find a new model to explain the phenomena.
I found a new flat earth model, not a disk.

The world shape is not a matter of map, but a matter of time and space.
The answer is a holographic multiverse.

It is in line with ancient world views.
My model can explain everything about the current phenomena.
I have already published a Korean book and am translating some of it into English.
I hope it will help.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: May 30, 2019, 04:56:35 PM »

That everyone is central is different from that there is no center.
There are many people, but no one can get into another's mind.
We only live in our own minds.
The same is true of non-human creatures.
Everything lives in their own universe.

Therefore, there are so many worlds.
But they become a world in harmony.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: May 27, 2019, 05:25:21 PM »

Homocentric Universe is perfectly capable of explaining all the phenomena of the earth.

Ok, you have two friends, one in Seoul and one in Buenos Aires.
If they are 19 420 km apart, which one is in the center of the Universe?

Both.

So, when Sun is at the center of Universe too, which one of them has it at zenith, directly above head?

The sun is not the center of the universe. Only man is the center.

Ofcourse it isn't.
But it doesn't esclude the possibility of Sun COMING TO THE CENTER of the Universe.

And about those two friends: how many centers does Universe have?

The centers are as many as the number of people in the world.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: May 21, 2019, 05:35:04 PM »

Homocentric Universe is perfectly capable of explaining all the phenomena of the earth.

Ok, you have two friends, one in Seoul and one in Buenos Aires.
If they are 19 420 km apart, which one is in the center of the Universe?

Both.

So, when Sun is at the center of Universe too, which one of them has it at zenith, directly above head?

The sun is not the center of the universe. Only man is the center.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: May 19, 2019, 02:18:50 PM »

Homocentric Universe is perfectly capable of explaining all the phenomena of the earth.

Ok, you have two friends, one in Seoul and one in Buenos Aires.
If they are 19 420 km apart, which one is in the center of the Universe?

Both.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: May 15, 2019, 05:24:51 PM »

It is a matter of substance and image.
What is real is a metaphysical matter.

But what I'm saying is not real, but the sun that looks like it.
It's the sun that we sense.
We see the sun, just like we see hologram patterns.
And it is a hologram for the individual.
So I mean it 'Holographic multiverse'.

It is clear that it is so.

A Korean e-book about my cosmology was released last April.
https://www.aladin.co.kr/shop/wproduct.aspx?ItemId=188146361
It consists of five chapters.
Chapter 2 is a counterargument to the heliocentric theory and Chapter 3 is a counterargument to the round earth theory.
The other three chapters are about my cosmology, Homocentric Universe.
I am preparing an English version of Homocentric Universe.
It will be sold as an ebook on Amazon within May.
Homocentric Universe is perfectly capable of explaining all the phenomena of the earth.
In other words, it explains not only the visible distance, but also the star's diurnal motion, the altitude of the North Star, Antarctica, the flight distance of southern hemisphere, and so on.

Of course, <Homocentric Universe> is a flat earth theory.
My YouTube account will help a little.


After the English version is released, I will keep updating it.

Since NASA backed FETÖ has forbid us to use youtube in our offices so I can't open youtube links. But I'll open it at home then will say you my thoughts about it.

I hope you success about ebook.

Thanks, Wise.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: May 15, 2019, 01:58:41 AM »

It is a matter of substance and image.
What is real is a metaphysical matter.

But what I'm saying is not real, but the sun that looks like it.
It's the sun that we sense.
We see the sun, just like we see hologram patterns.
And it is a hologram for the individual.
So I mean it 'Holographic multiverse'.

It is clear that it is so.

A Korean e-book about my cosmology was released last April.
https://www.aladin.co.kr/shop/wproduct.aspx?ItemId=188146361
It consists of five chapters.
Chapter 2 is a counterargument to the heliocentric theory and Chapter 3 is a counterargument to the round earth theory.
The other three chapters are about my cosmology, Homocentric Universe.
I am preparing an English version of Homocentric Universe.
It will be sold as an ebook on Amazon within May.
Homocentric Universe is perfectly capable of explaining all the phenomena of the earth.
In other words, it explains not only the visible distance, but also the star's diurnal motion, the altitude of the North Star, Antarctica, the flight distance of southern hemisphere, and so on.

Of course, <Homocentric Universe> is a flat earth theory.
My YouTube account will help a little.


After the English version is released, I will keep updating it.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric Universe: the North Star and star trails

« on: February 15, 2019, 07:57:26 PM »

The Earth is a concept that makes it easy to understand the world.
The world is more than three dimensions.
But because it's hard for us to understand it,
The concept introduced by understanding easily and conveniently is the three-dimensional earth.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric Universe: the North Star and star trails

« on: February 14, 2019, 11:53:50 PM »

Perhaps he was making reference to complimentary duality and the yin yang grid.


(a) Latitude–longitude grid and (b) Yin–Yang grid. The red and green lines in (a) are the equator and the Greenwich meridian, respectively.

Who is 'he' that you are talking about?
If it's me, the model I'm talking about is different from that.
What I am saying is exactly the same as the current Earth model.
Of course, on a flat Earth.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric Universe: the North Star and star trails

« on: February 14, 2019, 11:07:29 PM »

East Asia's flat earth was based on traditional philosophy.

Yes, as opposed to reality, observation, evidence, rational thought, and so on.

Then why did Niels Bohr use the Taegeuk mark as his aristocratic style?
Was it because he didn't know the reality and was irrational?
Why was the Nobel Prize given to such a man?
Is quantum mechanics all bullshit?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric Universe: the North Star and star trails

« on: February 13, 2019, 06:56:26 PM »

Before Matteorich came in, China and Korea believed in the flat earth.
East Asia's flat earth was based on traditional philosophy.
There were two poles in the traditional East Asian philosophy.
It is called yin and yang.
Taegeuk is a symbol of it.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric Universe: the North Star and star trails

« on: February 13, 2019, 02:18:34 AM »

Yes, we're looking for a variety of Flat Earth models.

But the AE map is neither mathematically nor philosophically correct.
We can't ignore the fact that has been proven so far.
Therefore, the disk model is empirically wrong.

My FE model is not a disk.
So there are poles.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homocentric Universe: the North Star and star trails

« on: February 12, 2019, 09:28:23 PM »

We are all the center of the universe.
The celestial bodies make a virtual celestial globe.
The celestial bodies revolve around the axis connecting the North Pole and its antipole.

I'm in the middle of it.
The axis of rotation is polarized.
It's going up to the poles.
When it reaches the North and South Poles, it reaches 90 degrees.
At the equator, polarities are balanced.
The axis of rotation is horizontal.

The Great circle is drawn in a a straight line to the observer's view.
Star trails are bent from next to there.

Cool vid Zorb. Very meditative.

Thanks, Stash.

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Flat Earth Debate / Homocentric Universe: the North Star and star trails

« on: February 12, 2019, 08:12:07 PM »

We are all the center of the universe.
The celestial bodies make a virtual celestial globe.
The celestial bodies revolve around the axis connecting the North Pole and its antipole.

I'm in the middle of it.
The axis of rotation is polarized.
It's going up to the poles.
When it reaches the North and South Poles, it reaches 90 degrees.
At the equator, polarities are balanced.
The axis of rotation is horizontal.

The Great circle is drawn in a a straight line to the observer's view.
Star trails are bent from next to there.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: December 27, 2018, 09:30:05 AM »

This is possible because the sun is a hologram.
All celestial bodies are holograms.

A hologram is a recording  of the interference pattern of two or more coherent light waves on, for example, a piece of film.  The piece of film itself is the hologram. When that piece of film is subsequently illuminated properly, and one looks at the film, it appears as if one is looking "through" the film, seeing a three-dimensional image of what was originally the source of the the light waves.

It's just an image. That original light source is not there. It's no different than someone looking at a picture of you. It's just an image of you. It's not you. You are not there.

The sun is not a hologram.

It is a matter of substance and image.
What is real is a metaphysical matter.

But what I'm saying is not real, but the sun that looks like it.
It's the sun that we sense.
We see the sun, just like we see hologram patterns.
And it is a hologram for the individual.
So I mean it 'Holographic multiverse'.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The Sundial is Accurate.

« on: December 27, 2018, 08:30:19 AM »

A sundial is a key for the geocentric theory.
Of course, the same thing is true of the star.
The sun, moon, and stars revolve around me wherever I am.
In the geocentric theory in Europe and the Middle East., the earth was the center for that reason.
But it was a serious misunderstanding.
In the East and most parts of the world, however, there was no concept of the earth.
To them, the land I live in was the center.
That's the point.
If you focus on yourself, not the earth, everything will make sense.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The Sundial is Accurate.

« on: December 26, 2018, 11:26:54 PM »

The sundial is roughly accurate, and is based upon a distant sun. It works with either the sun circling an axis going through Earth, or Earth rotating to cause the sun to apparently circle Earth.

The FE models which it can be based upon have far more in common with the RE of today than with the FE nonsense of today.
To get one all you need to do is make Earth the centre of the reference system and have everything move around Earth and then discard the vast majority of Earth, flattening out the remaining small section.

This is a FE model where the sun would set literally because it set, i.e. went below Earth. In some cases setting into a mud puddle to travel below Earth.

The 6360 number seems to be pulled from thin air, not pythagoras. The attempt at pythagoras, which has very little (if anything) to do with a sundial gave you results between 6200 km and 7700 km.
If you included more areas you would get results between 0 and infinite km. In fact, you can even get it going to negative values.

Your distance is based upon the false assumption that Earth is flat. Actual measurements indicate the sun is very far away.

Who measured the length of a year using a sundial?

Records show that around 2,600 B.C.,
the ancient Chinese knew that a year was 365 and 1/4 days long.
Maybe it's been passed on longer.
But one year is the same length as modern science has found out today.

In other words, for thousands of years, the ancient East Asian people knew exactly what was happening in the sky.
Their only tool was a sundial.
The sundial was used on the premise that the earth was flat.

We must pay attention to this fact.
They lived thousands of years making observations and predictions with sufficient accuracy without any inconvenience, even if the Earth is flat.

However, since some time ago, there was a rumor of the round earth.
I suspect that there was some confusion in the process.
Armillary sphere was a heavenly model, which turned into a globe.

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Flat Earth Debate / The Sundial is Accurate.

« on: December 26, 2018, 04:26:47 PM »

They measured the length of the year using the sundial.
The length is 365 days and 1/4 days.
This is in accord with the present day.
They divided the seasons and farmed using sundials.
They've been doing that for thousands of years, but there's no inconvenience.

The sundial was used on the assumption that the earth is flat.
How could it be possible if the earth is round?

According to the sundial, the distance to the sun is 6,360km.
Those who are FE'rs would not be able to deny this.
Because it comes simply out of Pythagorean theorem.
I showed it my video.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Holographic universe(round sky squared land)

« on: December 23, 2018, 12:50:49 AM »

If I were on the equator on the Spring Equinox, the sun would move a perfect semicircle around me.

If the radius R is 6,360 kilometers, the distance the sun moves is about 20,000 kilometers.

It takes 12 hours.



The semicircle of the sun's track could be drawn on a flat surface.

At 6 a.m. when the sun rises, the sun appears to be in the position of 1 to the observer in the middle.

However, it appears to be on top of the head of the observer in the position of 1' at the same time.

Similarly at sunset, the sun appears to be in position 3 to the middle observer,

but it appears to be on the top of the head of the observer in 3' at the same time.



This wave is repeated equally to form a circle.

The circumference is the same as the circumference of the earth.

In other words, the circumference of the earth is a cycle that the sun's wave completes.

This is possible because the sun is a hologram.

All celestial bodies are holograms.

The hologram is made by the interference of three waves.

Likewise, this world is a beautiful harmony created by the heaven, land and human.

I think that It has something to do with the Trinity.