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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Science
« on: April 25, 2007, 01:42:29 PM »
I don't think Truthseeker and Tom Bishop are the same.  If they were, they'd be lying.  Why would they lie?  I don't understand why anyone would lie.  The Bible says to be honest!  I believe in the goodness of all people and that until we find real evidence to the contrary we should just take Truthseeker and Tom Bishop at their word.  If not, we fail as human beings and there is no hope for us! :)

Amazing isn't it, what these people believe in?  They refuse to believe there can be more than one person who believes that the earth is flat, so they have to make up this belief that we are all one and the same so they can point their fingers and project all their hatred onto us.  And they think just because we are on the same side that this "proves" that we are all Tom.  My God, is this really the best science can do?  Does it have to devolve into cheap name calling?  I don't see any flat earth theorists doing that here.  Only round earth theorists.  What does that say about them?

My, my, their belief systems must be so rock solid if they are so threatened by another valid theory which challenges their views.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Science
« on: April 25, 2007, 01:24:16 PM »
Again, these personal attacks prove nothing about the earth is round or that I am Tom or anything else.  But that is your "proof."  If anything, it shows you guys are not to be believed.   This is the best you can do?  Maybe you guys do really believe in this nonsense.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Science
« on: April 25, 2007, 01:15:37 PM »
Prove that you aren't him.

Prove that you aren't GeneralGayness.

Prove that anyone cares either way...
BTW, I mean people with intelligence, not you, or yourself, or your being or any of your multis - who probably make up all the FE believers by the way...

The fact that you are here proves that you care.  If we are so full of it, if we are so unintelligent, then why do you spend so much time conversing with us.  Hmm?  What does that say about you?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Science
« on: April 25, 2007, 01:14:14 PM »
I'm saying he's Tom

Show me your evidence.  Prove to me that we are the same person.  That shouldn't be to difficult for you right, as you also believe the earth is round.  If you can believe that, you can believe in anything.


Prove that you aren't him.

I happen to know gen gay. She is a nice lass. You fail.

I'm not nice. You fail.

The earth is flat.  You fail.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Science
« on: April 25, 2007, 01:10:18 PM »
Prove that you aren't him.

Prove that you aren't GeneralGayness.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Science
« on: April 25, 2007, 01:08:20 PM »
I'm saying he's Tom

Show me your evidence.  Prove to me that we are the same person.  That shouldn't be to difficult for you right, as you also believe the earth is round.  If you can believe that, you can believe in anything.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Science
« on: April 25, 2007, 01:00:53 PM »
Ah yes, "truthseeker", distancing yourself from Tom, the oldest yet most rubbish trick in the book.
I myself an guilty of holding multis in the past, and now help on a forum to spot multis of rule breakers. And trust me, your attempt is pathetic.

Any moderator on here can vouch that I am not Tom.  Different email, different IP address.  We don't even have the same writing styles.  Ha, and I'm supposed to believe in your evidence.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Science
« on: April 25, 2007, 12:41:11 PM »
Thank you, Tom.  It's obviously the lens.  I've never seen a beach that looks like that in real life.

And Mongerer, I agree that you have never attacked me.  I think I have to be more careful about lumping all round earth theorists together as they are some descent types such as yourself.  I was talking more of those people who put pictures and quotes by Tom in their posts to make fun of him.  Amazing how low they have to stoop down to prove something that is so obviously "true."

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Flat Earth Debate / Science
« on: April 25, 2007, 12:14:29 PM »
Science is supposed to be based on observable phenomena and can be tested right?  So you want some proof that the earth is flat?  Okay, try this:

Go to the beach.  Take a picture of the horizon.  Go home.  Print out the picture.  Take out a ruler.  Draw a line using the ruler on the horizon.  You will see it perfectly matches a straight line.

But oh no, now you guys are going to come out with your rebuttals.  "Well, there is curvature... it's just too microscopic for a ruler to distinguish.  We need computers to process the information correctly since what your seeing is just an illusion."

Ha!  Mainstream science really doesn't trust the human senses at all.  Whenever anyone brings up anything that can be perceived by our sense as proof to refute the established sciences, they say you can't really trust your senses after all.  You have to use computers and complex mathematical formulas to "prove" that your senses cannot be relied on.  But what's the proof that these computers and mumbo jumbo abstract theories can be relied on?

Oh and those faked pictures from NASA is supposed to prove the earth is round?  Okay, how about this?  I want to prove that the planet Tatooine exists.  Here's my evidence.  Go to a movie theatre.  Watch Star Wars.  There you see it.  So Tatooine must exist.  Oh no, this doesn't work?  So when you see special affects on a movie screen it's not real, but when NASA produces a fake photo we are supposed to believe it?  Can you even tell a real picture from a fake one?  How about that picture of Lee Harvey Oswald and the shadow that supposedly didn't match where the sun was positioned?  What about those pictures of UFOs, the Lock Ness Monster, Big Foot?  Are they real or fake?  How can you even tell?  Are any of you experts?  Have you tried an experiment where you are shown different pictures to distinguish which ones are fake and real?  No, right?  Yet, I bet you guys claim to know a real picture from a fake one.

And now you are going to personally make fun of me, because you can't argue fairly.  You know your so-called theories are all a bunch of lies and therefore you must resort to ridicule and name calling.  Just like you are doing to that nice man Tom Bishop.  I'm never going to reveal anything about my true identity because you'll just use that against me in your "proofs."  Not to mention what the government might want to do with me if they got a hold of my true identity.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Piltdown Man
« on: April 24, 2007, 07:10:31 PM »
If you want proof of how much science is flawed, look no further than the Piltdown Man.  Scientists were so eager to confirm Darwin's theory, that when someone "found" bone fragments of the kind everyone was looking for (i.e. fit Darwin's theory), they all went hoorah and said this was clear proof that Darwin's ideas were correct.  Yeah, a HARD FACT DISCOVERY.  Then when it was discovered to be a conspiracy, they changed their theory and said, "Actually, what we are looking for is something that looks like this."

Scientists keep changing their theories over and over again.  And each time they say this is an incontrovertible fact.  Until something else comes up to show the fallacies of their theories, after which they make up a new one and say this was the truth all along.

What do these government sponsored scientists take us for?  Fools?  You think you can just change things in front of our eyes and we aren't going to notice?  You think you can make us believe the horizon has curvature when it obviously doesn't?

Well, let me tell you "scientists" something.... You won't fool this man any longer.  His eyes are now opened and there is NOTHING you can say to make believe that up is down and down is up.  Your dirty tricks won't work anymore, so please save your breath.

It's only a matter of time when the truth will come out and mankind will be liberated from the lies and oppression of the government.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Thank you
« on: April 24, 2007, 04:09:28 PM »
So all theories should be treated equally, regardless of the lack of evidence? My "Earth is made of apples' theory should be taught in schools (there's no evidence, but the Earth is made of apples!).

Evidence is subjective.  I'm open minded enough to hear about the so called round earth theory (despite the fact that it is obviously made up).  The fact is many, many people dispute the earth is round, many people throughout history have also believed it, so it should be regarded as an established, solid theory on par with round earth theory.

Notice how I'm not saying you shouldn't teach round earth theory.  I'm just saying our voices deserve to be heard.  But no, you guys just go along with whatever the government rams down your throats.  I really pity you guys.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Horizon Hoax
« on: April 24, 2007, 04:05:10 PM »
People have been brainwashed into "seeing" curvature where there is none.  I bet if you drew a straight line with a ruler on the board, all these people would see curvature.


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Thank you
« on: April 24, 2007, 04:02:39 PM »
Hard fact discoveries??  The big bang theory is a hard fact discovery?  That organic jelly millions of years ago became alive is a hard fact discovery?  Where you there when any of this supposedly happened?  Do you have proof?
Yes. Look up any documented experiment of Quatum Physics, Einsteinian Physics, anything. Where is YOUR proof that the earth is flat? Surely it'd be a waste of time for ALL of the greatest scientists in the world that every lived to make up the math that explains it beatifully. I haven't gone to aerospace engineerng school just to hear you tell me this shit is fake.

You think I'm joking?  The earth is NOT round.  Never was, never will be.  I've been to the beach.  I don't see any curvature.  I've been on airplane.  I didn't see the world was round.
Look again.

It is flat!  You fly and fly and it is still flat!  If you are scared to admit the truth, then I really feel for you, but if you really believe in these lies created by the government, then I think you should get your eyes examined!  Do you distrust what your senses tell you?
It's a person like you who shouldn't be allowed to live. Srsly. Go. Away.

Quantum physics is a theory.  And all theories should be treated equally and taught to students in science class.

These "great" scientists you speak of... have you ever seen their original books, manuscripts?  No, you were taught in some text book that so and so said this.  How do we know they really said this?  How do we know they even existed?  I would be willing to bet that these formulas were generated by some computer to "prove" all this nonsense.

And how dare you tell me that I don't have a right to live in this world?  It's people like you who advocate violence against anyone who questions government that forfeits their rights as a human being.  The only way you can keep a stranglehold on people using these concocted beliefs is by threatening death.  Every human being should be allowed to live in freedom and live a life without being oppressed.

I ask the moderator to please protect me from this madman.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Thank you
« on: April 24, 2007, 02:10:59 PM »
Hard fact discoveries??  The big bang theory is a hard fact discovery?  That organic jelly millions of years ago became alive is a hard fact discovery?  Where you there when any of this supposedly happened?  Do you have proof?

You think I'm joking?  The earth is NOT round.  Never was, never will be.  I've been to the beach.  I don't see any curvature.  I've been on airplane.  I didn't see the world was round.

It is flat!  You fly and fly and it is still flat!  If you are scared to admit the truth, then I really feel for you, but if you really believe in these lies created by the government, then I think you should get your eyes examined!  Do you distrust what your senses tell you?

And if it is so obvious that the earth is round, then why are you all here?  Why does round earth theory need an army to defend itself?  Every theory should be given equal treatment.  Instead, I get attacked just by expressing what I believe.  How about some respect?

And who said anything about nuclear fusion on the sun?  Have you ever been on the sun?  I don't think so.  And if you claim to have been there, then you are just part of this government conspiracy.

The truth should not be feared.  The truth will be revealed.  You guys can try to stop people from learning the truth, but in the end you won't succeed.  History is turning against you.  We will unite and expose the lies!  Then let's see you try to justify the world is round!

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Flat Earth Debate / Thank you
« on: April 24, 2007, 01:28:56 PM »
My God, I thought I was the only one who questioned what "science" claims to be facts.  I never believed that the world was round in school, even though I was made fun of.  I'm so relieved that I'm not the only one who questions the official line.  It seems that mainstream science has a different theory about the universe every other day!  What, are we supposed to change our minds just like that?  This is supposed be rational?  Flat earth theory should be regarded as valid theory.  Why is only round earth theory taught in our schools?

I just want to tell all you people who always questioned what you were taught but are too scared to admit it, that you will find peace of mind once you admit the truth.  The truth sets you free, and I can tell you that your life will make all the more sense once you allow yourself to see the world as it truly is.  I suspect some of the people here really do question round earth theory but pretend to be skeptics out of fear of being made fun of as well as the government.  But we must stand up to this kind of discrimination!  Let's all join forces now and tear down the lies that the government has forced up on us!

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