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Flat Earth Q&A / Debunking your Flat Earth Society...
« on: February 04, 2007, 12:10:13 AM »
Quote from: "SPrinkZ"

Like Wikipedia is a credible source. I could go on there and say that gravity is a fucking giraffe that eats cherries on the sun.

Wikipedia is fine since it usually lists outside sources.

Now if it doesn't cite a source for the information, you have to be skeptical.

Arts & Entertainment / So...Musical Preferences?
« on: February 03, 2007, 11:58:11 PM »
Underground hip hop, industrial, Raymond Watts

Flat Earth Q&A / Debunking your Flat Earth Society...
« on: February 03, 2007, 11:55:34 PM »
Quote from: "soadrocker856"
Possibly because there is none, and it's all bullshit?

Possibly because you refuse to see any logic whatsoever despite the attempts by many to set you away from the path of ignorance and darkness to enlighten you to the reality of truth and light.

We only ask you to actually think about things.  You can do that despite your beliefs about the shape of the planet, I think.

The Lounge / #FES in SlashNET: Flat Earth Society channel!
« on: February 03, 2007, 11:48:59 PM »
Welp, Ubuntu suckered me into joining the channel and being active on FES again.

I'll chew people out for faulty philosophic logic when I'm not so busy, however.

But, hay guys!

The Lounge / I LOVE YOU GUYS!
« on: February 03, 2007, 11:38:44 PM »
Quote from: "Rick_James"
40 inch  :shock: You rockin' a big rig?  :D

Awww yeah, baby.

The Lounge / I LOVE YOU GUYS!
« on: February 03, 2007, 11:35:19 PM »
Quote from: "SPrinkZ"
Quote from: "Mephistopheles"
I don't love anybody.


That's 'cause you're a stone cold gangster.

Lucifer made me straight pimpin'

Forty inch rims and tons of women.

Flat Earth Q&A / Debunking your Flat Earth Society...
« on: February 03, 2007, 11:34:15 PM »
Quote from: "SPrinkZ"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "soadrocker856"
What, no FEer wants to explain how the sun doesn't crash into the ground and yet something like a baseball can fall back to earth.

The sun's accelerating too.  OMFG that was so hard!

This guy is incredibly stupid [the guy you are referencing BOG]. He has to stop thinking in RE'er terms and start thinking in FE'er terms; everything becomes easier that way, right?

Or he just has to...well...think.

You have to debate on FE terms to get anywhere, but that's already assuming you're bringing something to the table that you can debate.

The Lounge / I LOVE YOU GUYS!
« on: February 03, 2007, 11:27:32 PM »
I don't love anybody.


The Lounge / Mon May 01, 2006 5:32 am
« on: December 12, 2006, 10:01:12 AM »
I'm only here to keep it real, ya'll.

The Lounge / Gay marriage
« on: December 12, 2006, 10:00:14 AM »
Marriage has already been diluted enough to a mere relationship.

Why not let them marry?  Hell, we could come up with a different name for it for homosexuality if that's the problem.

Its not a big deal anymore.  It might have been a hundred years ago.

The Lounge / I'm putting my soul up for download
« on: December 12, 2006, 09:57:44 AM »
Quote from: "thedigitalnomad"
Why do you speak in third person like that?

I'm assuming you mean the Devil as Lucifer, which I am not.

The Lounge / I'm putting my soul up for download
« on: December 11, 2006, 03:56:37 PM »
Quote from: "6strings"
Come to think of it, who wants Atheist soul anyway.... eew

Well, you could always use it as a bargaining chip in your dealings with the devil to gain mystical powers, then let Ubuntu burn in firey damnation for it instead of you...

Well, if atheists are already damned (seriously speaking, is this true?), then what's the point of giving the Devil someone who he will have anyways?

The Lounge / Mon May 01, 2006 5:32 am
« on: December 11, 2006, 03:50:37 PM »
Quote from: "dantheman40k"

Cant you just tell me what it is?

Its a man opening his anus in epic proportions.

The Lounge / Re: Victimless Crimes
« on: December 07, 2006, 11:36:16 AM »
Quote from: "Oliwoli"
There are a number of crimes that can be committed without anyone being hurt.
A couple examples of these being: Stealing Wireless internet from a neighbour (assuming they dont need the bandwidth)
Illegally downloading songs off the internet (assuming you wouldnt have bought them)
WHat's everyone's opinion on these types of crimes?

How is stealing wireless internet from a neighbor illegal?

It's a HUB.  They have every right to put a password on their network.

The Lounge / New avatar
« on: December 04, 2006, 07:19:24 PM »
Quote from: "thedigitalnomad"
I know where you live.  All of you.

Oh?  Bring it on, yancy boy.

The Lounge / Do you want the terrorists to win?
« on: December 04, 2006, 07:15:48 PM »
You're all liberal whiney babies.

Your 'Do You Want the Terrorists to Win' Score: 4%

Congratulations, Patriot! Wave your flag proudly, stand tall, and bask in the glory of George Bush's America. The terrorists will never win so long as there is a sufficient number of people like you out there. Never question, never doubt. You are on the right side. America's side. God's side. Rush Limbaugh has told you so. Rah rah, go Bush!!

(I think its impossible to get that score if you try to answer these questions with a straight face)

The Lounge / Logical Improbabilities of a god
« on: December 03, 2006, 11:23:27 AM »
Quote from: "beast"
I don't really accept Buddhism as a religion, or at least, I'm talking about theistic religions. Albert Einstein called himself religious and if people are to hold those "religious" beliefs then I'm happy to tolerate them, in fact I feel the same way about the world. I'm sorry that wasn't clear to you. If you want to argue that "religions" where you don't believe in anything supernatural in some way validate supernatural views then put that argument forward, but otherwise I think your point is completely irrelevant.

Ok, now we're getting somewhere.  So what you meant by religion is a theistic belief.  We're now at "theistic beliefs require unquestioning faith" which is entirely much less presumptuous than saying "religion requires unquestioning faith".

Unquestioning faith is also very broad.  In theistic religions, you obviously have to believe that the gods and principles that are present in the doctrine and ideal set are true.  Being atheistic, you obviously assume that there is no such thing, much like theistic believers assume the contrary.

Surely an atheist has an "unquestioning faith" in the belief that there is no God or supernatural beings which play a part in human life in the same vein as a theist has an "unquestioning faith" that there is such beings.  Since it is impossible to know one way or another, it is, infact, established as a belief in both ways.  Within this way, a theist's "unquestioning faith" is more or less the same as an atheist's "unquestioning faith".

If both unquestioning faiths are equivalent, then by your logic in your first reply, both atheism and theism are inherently flawed, which is not a very pleasant conclusion.

Now, we need to re-establish what is meant by unquestioning faith.  Something more specific.

The Lounge / Gay marriage
« on: December 01, 2006, 07:16:39 PM »
Quote from: "skeptical scientist"
Why are Americans so intolerant?

Because it is contrary to America's current set of social norms.

They will be changed as all countries' norms change.

The Lounge / Logical Improbabilities of a god
« on: December 01, 2006, 07:07:11 PM »
Quote from: "beast"
the fact that religion relies on unquestioning faith.

That is no such fact.

How do you describe Buddhism with that?

The Lounge / Funnies Websites Online
« on: December 01, 2006, 03:13:03 PM »
I'm a goon, so I suppose I have to be loyal here.

The Lounge / Logical Improbabilities of a god
« on: December 01, 2006, 03:08:47 PM »
The Christian God has been attacked so many times now with those same reasons that instead of interesting, it's boring.  We know there's tons of inconsistancies and logical fallacies.  Is the concept of "God" so offensive?

I really can't see why this would be posted this over and over again unless one was diametrically opposed to a god, which is rather silly considering we have no say in the matter.  The concept of god could easily be able to encompass any sort of explanation for reality.  Conversely, one could refute that just as easily.

When it comes down to it, its simply a choice.

The Lounge / Calculating Pi: yes, we have been wasting our time
« on: November 29, 2006, 11:32:18 PM »
Quote from: "thedigitalnomad"
Say.  My penis is between six and thirteen inches long.  I wonder if it would work.

It's probably going to be more likely between 4 and 9 inches long.

The Lounge / Calculating Pi: yes, we have been wasting our time
« on: November 27, 2006, 08:05:27 PM »
It was just a joke.   :cry:

Such is the fate of not posting something boring for a change.

The Lounge / Concerning Santa Claus
« on: November 27, 2006, 08:02:09 PM »
Quote from: "beast"
I think Santa is a good tool for demonstrating to kids that God doesn't exist.  Once you smash one myth you can smash them all :)

What's wrong with Santa?

The world is pretty boring without a bit of magic.

The Lounge / Re: Cogito ergo sum: not an absolute truth after all
« on: November 27, 2006, 03:30:43 PM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
It was nearly four hundred hears ago that Descartes wrote, je pense, donc, je suis, which was later translated into cogito ergo sum and I think, therefore, I am. After pondering initially, it seems indisputable that subjective experience guarantees function, and existence is a requisite of function.

However, this proof is easily defeated if we are to venture we are somehow deceived in our own thinking. If we are to guess, for a moment, that human logic is fundamentally flawed and incorrect, it is possible we are misled in our assumptions. If this possibility is indeed true, it may be that experience does not imply function and that entities do not need to exist in order for (their) function to occur.


I'm not trying to be a "I'm smarter than you" poster here, but everything in philosophy requires an outline or assumptions.  When you debate x, you have to assume all the conditions around it are true.  In that thinking, x becomes sound.

The Lounge / Calculating Pi: yes, we have been wasting our time
« on: November 27, 2006, 01:06:32 PM »
Quote from: "skeptical scientist"

Is there some place where you can actually do this, or are you just stating it as a general rule, and if I want to check I have to expand pi in binary to 256^(number of characters in song lyrics) places and then convert to ascii in order to have an outside shot at finding the lyrics?

Besides you don't mean it definitely has the lyrics. You mean with probability 1, it has the lyrics. AFAIK, nobody has shown that pi contains every substring. I'm not even sure if it's been proved that it contains almost every substring, although this is believed to be the case.

More of a joke referring to pi having supposedly infinite digits and therefore containing all knowledge.

The Lounge / Concerning Santa Claus
« on: November 26, 2006, 11:26:49 AM »
I believe in Santa.

But Santa could be many things  :wink:

The Lounge / Calculating Pi: yes, we have been wasting our time
« on: November 26, 2006, 11:25:32 AM »
PI in binary has the lyrics to your favorite song.

Try it!

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: New member, possibly old questions
« on: November 25, 2006, 09:59:25 AM »
Quote from: "Jake"

Read the fucking FAQ.

The FAQ does not present any definitive guidelines as for FE'ism.

Stop trolling.

No one claimed there were helicopter pads.  There is, however, always the possibility.

Flat Earth Q&A / Other Planets
« on: November 25, 2006, 09:53:04 AM »
Quote from: "troy2000"
Quote from: "dantheman40k"
Quote from: "Xargo"
Planets are round. We can prove many things that speak against the FE theory by simply using a telescope.

Telescopes are part of !TheConspiracy!

That's impossible.  If I build a telescope from scratch and it shows exactly the same results as one bought in a shop, then how could it be part of a conspiracy? (Unless ofcourse, you claim I am part of the conspiracy lol)

He's trolling, ignore him.

In anycase, the planets are most presumably round in either universe.

Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that Earth has to be a planet under the same classification.

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