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Flat Earth General / Re: Other Planets
« on: September 09, 2021, 07:42:22 AM »

As it turns out, each planet we view that is round actually makes it more probable that the earth is flat - this is one of the issues behind the problem of induction. Since the earth being flat has a non-zero probability, each time we observe a round object it reduces the solution space, thus making the non-zero probability have a higher likelihood.

More than this, the idea is logically faulty. I may see a grey goose out my window each day. Does this mean all geese are grey?  In other words, since I can say Object A and Object B are both blue, does that make Object C blue? or Object D? Or all other objects?!


Common sense tells us, if everything of something we see has the same shape/size/proportions, then they all have this. Or would that mean that the more spherical planets we see (all of them) the higher is also the chance of Earth being square, triangle, donut...whatever size?

Your geese analogy is also wrong. We don't just see one planet being spherical and assume Earth is too, we have seen thousands and all of them are spherical. Not to mention that all the suns are also spherical.

I mean, I have only ever seen (by my own eyes and on video) that elephants are grey. And every biology and animal book tells me elephants are grey. So I assume that every elephant is grey. But the more grey elephants I see, the higher is the chance of elephants existing that are green, purple, yellow, red...?


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Polaris debunks the magnetic declination!
« on: October 08, 2020, 05:15:28 AM »
wise, please never change

I sometimes come to this forum here and there again to check whats up. I always find it you entertaining. Kinda like watching an ape or gorilla running and swinging around.

You are the Donald Trump of this site. Please go on and never stop entertaining us.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What would change your mind?
« on: October 08, 2020, 04:52:35 AM »
@sceptimatic:

Question for you: do you think bacterias exist? If yes, can you see them with your own eyes? If you can't see them, why not?

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That is the problem with flat earthers. They are in such a denial, there is no proof that would ever convince them. At worst, they will say you drugged them and changed their eyes with advanced cyber eyes....

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Flat Earth General / Re: Revisiting the Candle Experiment
« on: November 10, 2019, 12:45:01 PM »
I did the experiment and verified that the earth is indeed round. To be fair and not confuse the minds of others who would do the experiment, I will not post my findings and pictures and what tools I used etc.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Should I come out to my mom as a flat earther
« on: November 03, 2019, 02:21:15 AM »
Sry can`t help you here...

I never told my parents I am retarded...

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John Davis translated to numbers means:

10-15-8-14 4-1-22-9-19

thus we can conclude....nothing. It makes no sense. Just like John Davis. Case proven.

If you don`t see the truth and facts here, we can`t help you.

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The taxes pay for our healthcare, schooling, garbage collectors, policing and other emergency services and the list goes on.

If these people lived completely off the grid, then OK. But if they take advantage of all the above (and more) services that is paid for by taxes, then they should pay their share. It seems to me these people are trying to use religion as an excuse for greedy monetary means which I think is pretty disgraceful.

Undeniable the family seems like use religion for get ride of tax. The point here, I support people do not want to tax. Because, there isn't need to taxes. Actually, the existance of money is tax by itself.

Then please don`t use any streets or any public places anymore. No infrastructure, energy or water. Go live in the woods, by your own hard work. Oh and don`t expect the police, firefighter or ambulance to help you in case of emergency.

None of them need to paid tax. the existence of money means their existence. You clearly don't understand the economy. I don't want to bring down capitalism for now, but I'll give you a simple example. you have a house for sale with 100K$ and how much money do you have to pay to buy a car for the same price? 100K$? Nope. you don't need money for it. someone from the outside comes, gives each of you $ 100k and buys your house, the other's vehicle. no inflation occurred. What would you do if I gave you $ 100K for the value of your house? You get the vehicle and you still have your house, don't you? You get this? You've lost one house by accepting the capitalist system. I don't want to deal with it for now, but when I decide, people will stop using money completely.

I mean, when we use the money of system, we have gave credit to system already, equal to our sum of money. No need an extra tax. Get it Apokalypt? Money. On system. We use it. It is already the tax. Apokalypt.

You write so confusing, it is hard to understand.

I live in Switzerland and for example our firefighters are paid by our tax. Like every public company/institution. I would pay around 200 dollar firefighting tax each year if I weren`t a volunteer firefighter myself. What do you think would happen if they get no money? No firefighters anymore, no equipment. "I don`t care if my house burns down, at least I don`t pay tax".

You clearly live in a different world inside your head. It would be nice to know where you live, so I can show you how fucked you would be without tax.

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The taxes pay for our healthcare, schooling, garbage collectors, policing and other emergency services and the list goes on.

If these people lived completely off the grid, then OK. But if they take advantage of all the above (and more) services that is paid for by taxes, then they should pay their share. It seems to me these people are trying to use religion as an excuse for greedy monetary means which I think is pretty disgraceful.

Undeniable the family seems like use religion for get ride of tax. The point here, I support people do not want to tax. Because, there isn't need to taxes. Actually, the existance of money is tax by itself.

Then please don`t use any streets or any public places anymore. No infrastructure, energy or water. Go live in the woods, by your own hard work. Oh and don`t expect the police, firefighter or ambulance to help you in case of emergency.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth is the wrong size.
« on: August 28, 2019, 01:31:57 AM »
Are you allowed to fake quotes? I know that is the only thing flat earthers can do to stand a chance, but it seems wrong to me...

You did not tell it for the upper post. You are not fair at all, like all glolalists. To be fair, then why do not you have enough courage to tell how a globalist changed my quote?

My bad, didn`t see that, I think it is not good for anyone to do it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Racism Or A Cop Doing His Job?
« on: August 28, 2019, 01:07:54 AM »
Sure, I can see it as him being a potential danger.  But the way its written, it sounds like a group of cops showed up when two would have been sufficient.  One to watch the guy the other to search the house.  The response seemed overblown.

Also there are better ways to deal with it.

"Sir, I understand but we need to verify first.  If you'd be willing to wait in the car (uncuffed) while we sort this out, we'd be grateful."

So yes, he was racist but not more than any other white person, myself included.

White guilt much?

No, realist.
Black men are looked at as more intimidating or potentially threatening than white men, barring other factors like posture, clothing, facial expression, ect...

And why is that? You know, there is a reason for almost anything.

Why am I, as a white man, looked at as more intimidating as my 85 year old grandma? Are they sexist and ageist? Why do groups of male teenagers get more often controlled and checked by police than groups of female teenagers? Why are more people afraid of a pitbull terrier or bulldog than of a golden retriever? Why are some woman afraid to walk alone during the night? They are just sexist, right?

Of course you have stereotypes, but they usually exist for a reason. And you will have good and bad examples everywhere. Yet clean statistics doesn`t lie.

Cops in the USA get shot so often, mostly from black people, no wonder they will be catious. Blacks also still commit most violent crimes, despite being low in number.

If we account for population, amount of encounters between cops and civilians etc. then white people are even more likely to be killed by a cop when they encounter one.

Another fun fact: black cops are 3x times as likely to pull the trigger at a crime scene than white cops...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth is the wrong size.
« on: August 28, 2019, 12:52:23 AM »
Are you allowed to fake quotes? I know that is the only thing flat earthers can do to stand a chance, but it seems wrong to me...

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Flat Earth General / Re: The Candle Experiment
« on: August 28, 2019, 12:50:00 AM »
This topic is so amusing.  ;D

Thank you John Davis, you are a great entertainer.

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Flat Earth General / Re: First crime in space
« on: August 28, 2019, 12:40:19 AM »
Fun fact:

Despite only making up 11% of astronauts, females have commited 100% of space crimes.

That's racist.   ;)

No, I identify as oppressed myself, thus whatever I do or say, I can`t be *insert bad word*.

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Flat Earth General / Re: First crime in space
« on: August 28, 2019, 12:16:55 AM »
Fun fact:

Despite only making up 11% of astronauts, females have commited 100% of space crimes.


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Flat Earth General / Re: Does Putin know that the earth is not a globe?
« on: August 27, 2019, 07:34:42 AM »
Duh, everyone know the earth is flat, we all troll each other with the round earth.

If everyone know that the earth is flat, then tell me, what's on the other side of flat earth?

Everyone`s hopes and dreams...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Does Putin know that the earth is not a globe?
« on: August 27, 2019, 07:17:31 AM »
Duh, everyone know the earth is flat, we all troll each other with the round earth.

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Flat Earth General / Re: First crime in space
« on: August 27, 2019, 07:03:27 AM »
something else
I've adressed you, not anybody else. I have prefer you adress me when you talk about me. I am a flat earther and hence, respect opinion of human beings. I thought you are human being, not like him. Maybe I made a mistake by adressing you. I'm still waiting answer for my statements from "you".

Why should I even talk to you, if you can`t even read and understand the news? Your statements are pure garbage and indicate that you have no idea what you are talking about so there is no reason to "answer" it.

Have I to accept what NASA says? You're not NASA, you're a member here. The news gets NASA as source, not you are. I'm critising the news and its source, not you are. you understand my interpretation of the truth of the news you share as if it were an attack on you. you don't need to respond under these circumstances, okay. I don't comment on your garbage news anymore. Continue correspondence between you and the angry globalist fake moderators. You reply him, he replies you; you angry globulards then talk about freedom of speech. Yeah, right. If we don't accept what NASA says, we have the value of garbage, do we? What is your difference other than other angry globalists here. There are already tens of you here, what a need to you?

You are correct, I don`t need to be here. I kinda lost a lot of brain cells when reading this stuff here. And it is best if you don`t reply to me. So I don`t have to drop a few IQ points just to be on the same level. So far, have a nice day...every living being on this planets deserves a nice day, no matter what.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The Candle Experiment
« on: August 27, 2019, 06:59:23 AM »
Man, this makes me sad. Although I haven`t read many posts of John Davis, I always thought he is (for a flat earther at least) a little bit more reasonable. To see such a pathetic post/experiment even school children would laugh at it. Seriously, how can anyone take you serious when you say it is easy, costs little but didn`t even try it yourself. I am constantly surprised to what gets posted here...

I think I have to get rid of half of my brain to understand this...

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Flat Earth General / Re: First crime in space
« on: August 27, 2019, 06:38:52 AM »
something else
I've adressed you, not anybody else. I have prefer you adress me when you talk about me. I am a flat earther and hence, respect opinion of human beings. I thought you are human being, not like him. Maybe I made a mistake by adressing you. I'm still waiting answer for my statements from "you".

Why should I even talk to you, if you can`t even read and understand the news? Your statements are pure garbage and indicate that you have no idea what you are talking about so there is no reason to "answer" it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: First crime in space
« on: August 27, 2019, 05:36:11 AM »
A) It wasn't her husband
B) She didn't access her former partner's computer
C) Do you even know what the Internet is??

He is a flat earther, don`t confuse him.

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Flat Earth General / First crime in space
« on: August 27, 2019, 03:10:29 AM »
So, apparantly, NASA is investigating the first crime in space:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/24/first-crime-space-nasa-investigates-unprecedented-divorce-case/

How far NASA and the astronauts go for this conspiracy...how much does McClain get for commiting a "fake" crime, huh?

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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: August 27, 2019, 01:56:31 AM »
Holy shit Shifter...if an outsider reads your bullshit, they would ask what happened to you when you were little (I am really sorry when I hit a nerve...if it is something too bad to talk about...). You don`t even try. But apparantly you are so woke...you sound like an existence above god *kneels before you*.

Back to topic: I think with Shifter as flat earther, it seems like RE doesn`t even need to proof anything anymore. I learned that I sometimes should let people with special needs win the game...so again, shouldn`t we accept our "defeat"? Saves time, money, idiocrazy...

I am not a flat earther and I am not a God

Then I am confused. You sound like a flat earther (haven`t read all your posts of course) and also write as much bullshit as them, ignoring questions, avoiding stuff etc. So you believe in RE, so be a bit more clear.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earth Conferences
« on: August 27, 2019, 01:53:16 AM »
Those ticket prices only confirm my thoughts that a lot of flat earthers are only in it for the money. Sort of like those people that predict your future. Profiting from weak willed people that don't really understand the concept of money.

Flat earth is like a (religious) sect (Scientology or the ones with Uriella etc.). You gather followers trough stupidity and naivety and take their money out their pockets. There is a teenager around here who is praised as the next sect leader, she earns like 100k for 2 hour bla bla bla sessions...

Maybe I should do the same...

Hey guys, in two weeks there will be the Flat Earth Truth Conference. I will show you real proof* that Flat Earth exists and a ticket is only 2000 €. PM me if you want to take part.

*not real proof

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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: August 27, 2019, 01:35:27 AM »
Holy shit Shifter...if an outsider reads your bullshit, they would ask what happened to you when you were little (I am really sorry when I hit a nerve...if it is something too bad to talk about...). You don`t even try. But apparantly you are so woke...you sound like an existence above god *kneels before you*.

Back to topic: I think with Shifter as flat earther, it seems like RE doesn`t even need to proof anything anymore. I learned that I sometimes should let people with special needs win the game...so again, shouldn`t we accept our "defeat"? Saves time, money, idiocrazy...

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So first you use google maps to verify the timeanddate website? And then you say google maps is wrong?

Also: you weren`t there in person and didn`t see it with your own eyes, therefore this all is bullshit and proves nothing bla bla (I am sounding like a flat earther here).

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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: August 20, 2019, 11:13:30 AM »
There is always more to add to the defeat and destruction of the Globe Earth theory. Always!

Do I think the ISS is fake and that Scott Kelly (in this video) is faking weightlessness inside the ISS? Well, sure I do. Hell yeah he is! Anyone with common sense can see it.

The following video proves this fact. The man is bobbing up and down and left to right, always coming back to center like a weight hanging on a fishing bobbin, without pushing off anything to maintain center.  The guy is nervous as hell because he knows he has some deceiving to do. He’s another puppet for the ISS. They all are puppets.

Let’s all have a laugh at them in the second video.


NASA Astronaut Scott Kelly Reflects on His Year in Space


Flat Earth Man is back! - 'Puppet Show" - an ISS exposé - FUNNY :)


I know it's long, but maybe take some time off from meme creation, and watch this one.



I wonder how plat terra will try to explain this movie. This one is impossible to do on a plane or underwater. The tablet would need to have some sort of anti-gravity tech inside of it. Wires are impossible with how he moves around. Furthermore, with wires, he would be a superhuman with insane strength to effortlessly do some things. And everyone who played around as a kid can see that, when he is overhead, has no bloodflow and different stature etc. as you would have on earth.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Quasars, Pulsars and Gamma Ray Bursts
« on: August 15, 2019, 11:56:06 PM »
Seeing as stellar fusion has not been demonstrated in a lab--only other types of fusion and for brief moments---and that the nuclear processes in the stars are entirely hypothetical and without demonstration, the question is why haven't we been able to find the answer for the workings of the stars despite billions of dollars in funding?

You can't put 2 x 10^30 kilograms of mostly hydrogen into a lab, but you can calculate what would be the pressure inside the ball of it
and you can do spectral analysis of the ball of hydrogen shining at some 150 million kilometers from here.

You can also send Parker probe in 2018 to have a closer look. :)

Sounds like complete speculation.

Yep, sounds like flat earth...

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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: August 15, 2019, 02:23:34 AM »
Now, if you could tell us where your Sun is right now, that would be great.

Download the Flat Earth Sun Moon & Clock app.

Holy shit, I thought you were joking....but that app really exists and it costs 3 dollar!

Somehow this is sad....to make money from stupid people is not very nice. Reminds me of Belle Delphine and her "bathwater", which she sells to thirsty virgins...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Another mass shooting...
« on: August 09, 2019, 01:04:31 AM »
Interesting, I saw a list of all the mass shooters (shooting 4 or more people) and out of them it was surprising white men were the minority.

There was even 5 women on it which really surprised me.

Interesting, where is your list? I found this list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b9o6uDO18sLxBqPwl_Gh9bnhW-ev_dABH83M5Vb5L8o/edit#gid=0 and from 114 Mass Shooting incidents there were 46 non-whites (Asian, Black, Latino, Native American, Others)....so the majority was white.

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