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Flat Earth General / Re: Prove me wrong
« on: October 28, 2011, 07:14:43 PM »
sorry thats not the real picture the government doesn't want people to know i have a dragon so they deleted the real picture. 
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 07:13:54 PM »
because e=mc^2/1-square root(v^2/c^2) so as v approached c E approaches infinite to accelerate indefinitely you would need constantly increasing energy approaching infinite.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 05:24:19 PM »
My initial objection to UA was that it couldn't be possible under special relativity but it is possible if you could have infinite energy which is why i objected. There isn't really a law of physics disallowing infinite energy even though it may cause a black hole if concentrated enough which is still up for debate. So I guess it might not be dissallowed by SR.
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: So, this is my first time here....
« on: October 28, 2011, 05:20:44 PM »
ok i don't know much about blood rain just that it's red rain caused by dust or fungus in the air type thing but how do you know it's from the moon wouldn't the moon be red then???
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 05:11:25 PM »
Damn i guess you are right special relativity does allow it it just requires infinite energy. But here is my objection if we are accelerating at 9.8m/s^2 then every other thing in the universe that we can observe such as the sun or the moon would have to be accelerating at the same rate in the same direction. Otherwise the earth would catch up to them and collide. But that would mean anything on those objects on the side facing us would not experience this acceleration because they aren't being pushed by the object like things on top of the earth. Then the earth would catch up to them and collide with them.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:51:47 PM »
No no not where is your evidence that special relativity allows for UA. Where is your evidence that UA is true that dark energy is accerlerating teh earth upwards at 9.8m/s^2
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:48:27 PM »
Even if it did allow for it WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE IT DOES?
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: So, this is my first time here....
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:47:11 PM »Another source is the release of materials from within the moon rock.No life, no atmosphere on the Moon. No bacterias, no shrimps.No atmosphere on the moon? I guess NASA screwed something else up.
No evidence(as usual)!
Seriously though, the atmosphere on the moon is caused by the release of gases from within the core due to their breakdown.
Once again evidence?? do you have any or are you just assuming this to be true because of your preconceived notion that the earth is flat???
These are known as outgassing and sputtering. Feel free to look them up for the appropriate evidence.
Sure i'll give you that without checking it. but how does that show that there are bacteria on the moon??? we have yet to find the actual bacteria on the moon
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:43:13 PM »
and i wasn't trying to sound condescending its just a good resource that i like because its easy to read you don't have to sort through a bunch of mumbo jumbo.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:41:11 PM »
And don't say it is possible because of dark energy. You would first have to show that there is vast amounts of it beneath the earth.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:38:29 PM »
Nah http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/relativity.html
i suggest you read up on this they put it in a nice easy format that everyone can understand. If you really read up on relativity UA is impossible.
i suggest you read up on this they put it in a nice easy format that everyone can understand. If you really read up on relativity UA is impossible.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Prove me wrong
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:36:44 PM »
No takers?? really this applies to FET just play along.
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Flat Earth General / Re: RErs ... earn $10,000
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:36:10 PM »
ummmm because if he is so set in his ways already there is no way anything i will say no matter how scientifically sound will not convince him.
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: So, this is my first time here....
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:34:20 PM »No life, no atmosphere on the Moon. No bacterias, no shrimps.No atmosphere on the moon? I guess NASA screwed something else up.
No evidence(as usual)!
Seriously though, the atmosphere on the moon is caused by the release of gases from within the core due to their breakdown.
Once again evidence?
? do you have any or are you just assuming this to be true because of your preconceived notion that the earth is flat???
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Flat Earth General / Re: RErs ... earn $10,000
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:28:11 PM »As you all know, FErs have throughout history offered rewards to prove earth flat. Not one has ever been claimed.
Below I submit one such challenge. It is still active and all you need to do is prove one tiny aspect of FET is wrong. The original $1000 reward offer asks for scientific proof-positive (not hearsay, popular opinion, “expert” testimony, majority vote, personal conviction ,organizational ruling, conventional usage, superficial analogy, appeal to “simplicity,” or other indirect means of persuasion) (OR ANYTHING THAT I CAN'T SIMPLY SAY THE CONSPIRACY MADE UP) that the earth moves. He has recently increased the offer to $10,000. Still no takers.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Prove me wrong
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:25:51 PM »
woops sorry copied the google url
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: So, this is my first time here....
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:20:33 PM »
Where's your proof we have been to the moon and haven't found any bacteria lighting it up.
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Flat Earth General / Prove me wrong
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:11:10 PM »
I have a dragon who lives in my yard. http://www.google.com/imgres?q=downed+tree&um=1&hl=en&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS277US277&biw=1024&bih=501&tbm=isch&tbnid=PqYhuciveTWvhM:&imgrefurl=http://grannygeek.us/%3Fp%3D1242&docid=vLdiRg5VBuLXRM&imgurl=http://grannygeek.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/downed-tree.jpg&w=504&h=306&ei=VTarTpZCpdXRAdTMzaoP&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=285&vpy=206&dur=1703&hovh=175&hovw=288&tx=172&ty=125&sig=106619519848425684358&page=3&tbnh=114&tbnw=187&start=19&ndsp=8&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:19 see he ripped my tree down yesterday.
I dare you prove me wrong.
I dare you prove me wrong.
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Flat Earth General / The earth is unique a valid excuse???
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:00:20 PM »
How is it that all other celestial bodies are round but the earth is flat? They were all created by the same processes. They all are bound by the same physical laws. They are all made of similar things how does the earth come to be flat? Don't say its unique because it really isn't.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 02:09:23 PM »You found the deliberations of one scientist whose research area is 'Theoretical Physics' and you take this man's word as fact? Without doubt, his postulating is what happens in the universe? He hasn't got a clue what happens at near light speed. No one does. Its why they spent 7.5 Billion Euros building a large hadron collider at cern, and they are only just beginning to get results. Most of those results contradict everything scientists like Professor Viet Elser suspected.
Poisoning the well
"What? This is a strawman. How atoms are arranged can effect weight. Of course it can. It alters density. Graphite isn't the same weight as diamond. Also weight =! mass."
sorry misquote
"One observation that supports it is the difference in mass between one mole of Oxygen-16 atoms, and 8 moles of Deuterium. The only difference between them is the difference in binding energy, but the mass difference is easily detectable.
This mass is detectable both in inertial balances, and as weight in the Earth's gravity. [The Hydrogen weighs more]."
"Please show where dark energy has momentum. Then prove that this causes black holes. You are talking about things that nobody understands. To accept this as fact to disprove UA is desperate, even for a REr"
Please show me that dark energy exists you too are talking about things that no one understands in fact your model relies on things that haven't been proven and that no one understands.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 12:49:52 PM »
Also light has no mass just energy and this.
"Oh yes the wave travelling at c(it has energy) has momentum.
And the reason isnt because of the electron jump,it is because mass and energy both curve spacetime.
Also,an interesting fact:You could create a black hole if u focussed enough light to curve spactime very very much(high energy density"
"Oh yes the wave travelling at c(it has energy) has momentum.
And the reason isnt because of the electron jump,it is because mass and energy both curve spacetime.
Also,an interesting fact:You could create a black hole if u focussed enough light to curve spactime very very much(high energy density"
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 12:45:13 PM »
also
One observation that supports it is the difference in weight between one mole of Oxygen-16 atoms, and 8 moles of Deuterium. The only difference between them is the difference in binding energy, but the weight difference is easily detectable.
This weight is detectable both in inertial balances, and as weight in the Earth's gravity. [The Hydrogen weighs more].
One observation that supports it is the difference in weight between one mole of Oxygen-16 atoms, and 8 moles of Deuterium. The only difference between them is the difference in binding energy, but the weight difference is easily detectable.
This weight is detectable both in inertial balances, and as weight in the Earth's gravity. [The Hydrogen weighs more].
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 12:38:30 PM »
http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/education/ask/index.html?quid=1256 hmmm i think you lose my friend.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 12:28:50 PM »
no accelerating to the speed of light doesn't form black holes. The amount of Dark Energy required to do so would be so massive it would form a black hole!
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 12:21:05 PM »
IT would require so much dark energy in one that we would be crushed under the gravity of it.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 12:19:38 PM »
"One can compute at which point the mass of the fuel required to keep the ship accelerating becomes so high that its self gravity would cause it to collapse as a black hole. Of course the observer (assumed human) would have been crushed long before due to the intense gravitational field of his own ship."
What don't you get about this everyone on earth would be CRUSHED and would be sucked into a blackhole. So it doesn't matter if you have the required energy WE ALL WOULD BE DEAD!
What don't you get about this everyone on earth would be CRUSHED and would be sucked into a blackhole. So it doesn't matter if you have the required energy WE ALL WOULD BE DEAD!
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Flat Earth Debate / Why UA fails
« on: October 28, 2011, 12:14:36 PM »
"The power requirements of course become humongous because of the amount of fuel necessary to approach the speed of light arbitrarily close. One can compute at which point the mass of the fuel required to keep the ship accelerating becomes so high that its self gravity would cause it to collapse as a black hole. Of course the observer (assumed human) would have been crushed long before due to the intense gravitational field of his own ship."
Demos Kazanas
looks to me like the earth can't possibly constantly accelerate at 9.8m/s^2
Demos Kazanas
looks to me like the earth can't possibly constantly accelerate at 9.8m/s^2