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I'll take that challenge.  Tell me what problems you see with the theory of the flat earth, and I'll explain them using science, mathematical models, etc.  Try me.

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Flat Earth Q&A / We're travelling faster than light: did you notice?
« on: January 04, 2006, 08:08:01 PM »
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I believe its "at university" instead of "in university" with or without the "a"
I was corrected by my PhD prof for this mistake


I would just like to add: who the fuck cares?  If you want to nitpick over grammar, make your own damn forum.  It's completely irrelevant to the point at hand.

On gravity: granted, something of the general nature of gravity does exist.  And whether or not you call it "gravity" is immaterial.  My point was that the theories our current understanding of it is based on it aren't necessarily correct.  Gravity, as in the tendency of things to fall downward, definitely exists.  "Gravity", as defined by Newton and redefined by Einstien, isn't so certain.

And - annoyingly, maybe, but undeniably - as long as that bit of uncertainty exists, and as long as you haven't personally been in space, it's impossible to completely deny that the world could be flat.  In fact if the world was flat, and the government were covering it up (which, who knows, they just might do)... everything would look pretty much exactly how it is right now.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Are there images available a the ice-wall?
« on: January 02, 2006, 08:39:30 PM »
No need to be an asshole, 6strings.

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Flat Earth Q&A / We're travelling faster than light: did you notice?
« on: January 02, 2006, 08:02:20 PM »
Ok... so special relativity is a fair enough approximation that you can use it to build a TV.  So - you can use Newton's laws of motion to design a catapult, but nobody's calling them the be-all and end-all of physics these days.  They work, to an extent, but at some point you've got to get past them or you're stuck in the middle ages.  So too with special relativity.  In fact we KNOW special relativity is flawed in some way or other, because it fails to pass the equivalency test with quantum physics - as I'm sure you're aware.

We're going to need a new theory sooner or later, and every physicist knows it.  Could be some fundamental things about our worldview will have to change as well - like, perhaps, the existence of gravity.

Sorry about the "do you have another" bit by the way, I couldn't resist.

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Flat Earth Information Repository / "The Flat-out Truth"
« on: December 17, 2005, 09:19:01 PM »
Yes, yes you can.

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Flat Earth Q&A / The conspiracy theory
« on: December 16, 2005, 08:55:08 PM »
The reason behind this government conspiracy is the same as the reason behind all conspiracies: knowledge is power.  Populations deprived of knowledge are, basically, easier to control.

By telling us that the earth is round the government can do such things as:
*rerout planes to avoid their secret facilities
*tax us billions of dollars to fund their "space program"
*mislead physicists to limit the developments of technologies that might threaten them

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Flat Earth Q&A / Flat-Earth's gravity Vs Planes
« on: December 16, 2005, 08:17:06 PM »
I can answer this.
The earth is rising upwards at a constantly accellerating rate.  The air sits on top of the earth, and is pushed upwards by it.  The plane, in turn, flies through the air, and the airfoil shape of its wings gives it lift - as is well understood.

The question of gravity-vs-accelleration is moot in this case.  In fact (ask any physicist) the effects of gravity are indistinguishable from those of steady accelleration.  Anyone who's ridden the "Gravitron" ride at the fair should be aware of this.[/i]

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Flat Earth Q&A / A Few Questions
« on: December 16, 2005, 08:06:52 PM »
Sorry about that last post, it was written by a friend who doesn't believe in the flat earth and doesn't understand how apostrophes are used, either.

I believe I can help you out, Mr. Pearson.  I'll take your questions in order.

1. The walls of ice

This illustration should help explain:



Just to clarify, the "x" at the center is the north pole, and the red circle indicates the path of the sun.  As you would expect, those areas further from the sun's path are colder: namely, the north pole and the "wall of ice".

As for why no one has seen them: plenty of people have.  They've simply given them a different name: "Antarctica."


2. Getting your friends to believe

This is a bit harder; typically people who believe in the round earth are pretty set in their views and not very willing to change them.  After all, they're the large majority at this point, and it's a rare person who will stand up in the face of fifty-to-one odds.

The trick is to lead by example.  Let them see how knowledge has set you free.  You're not buying into this shit anymore, and that's a starting point for not buying into all kinds of other shit.  Just stand firm in your beliefs, and once your friends see the power it gives you, they might not be so skeptical anymore.


3. Standing up when questioned

Again, round-earthers are usually very resistant to changing their views, and this goes double for those that try to question you directly.  Typically they're just looking to make themselves look smart at your expense.  Until you understand some of the theory behind flat-earthism and can put up an intelligent argument, it's usually best not to get drawn in.  Just tell them, politely, to fuck off, and leave it at that.

Hope I've been of help.

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Flat Earth Q&A / We're travelling faster than light: did you notice?
« on: December 16, 2005, 06:49:59 PM »
First of all, if we're going to throw out the idea of gravity, I think we can safely conclude that special relativity (based on general relativity, which is based on the assumption of gravity) is a load of shit as well.  Secondly, even according to special relativity, you don't actually gain weight while accellerating - just energy.  If every other object in the universe is accellerating at the same speed, this wouldn't present a problem, because the proportions would remain constant.  Thus there's no reason to say the everyone on earth would be "heavier than a black hole" (which by the way, have no specific minimum mass and could theoretically be as light as a bit of danelion fluff) since the black holes are accellerating at the same rate and are gaining "weight" at the same speed.

Clearly if we're positing a flat earth, the theories by which we interpret the laws of physics will have to be reworked somewhat, so your arguments invoking general relativity and the like are invalid.

Do you have another?

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Flat Earth Q&A / A Few Questions
« on: December 14, 2005, 06:33:32 PM »
Your lack of intelligence amuse's me, and with the amount of self pitty you should have, you dont deserve to even post such a retarded thread.

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